What are YOU? Really?

Yeah i know there is more, but not for us.

You know those new amazing treatments to cure cancer?, (that they have been improving for over ten years now)
Well, where are they? Cancer,Alzheimer, frigging tooth cavities, all those have been fixed a long time ago.

They are not for us.

a reply to: crayzeed

Let's talk about Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerburg, and Bill Gates directly for a moment.

If nobody can buy anything on Amazon, Jeff Bezos makes jack!
If nobody can afford electricity or their cell phone bill, Mark Zuckerberg and Failbook make jack!
If nobody can afford a computer, Bill Gates makes jack!
If Boeing goes bankrupt, all those fat-cat executives make jack!
If all the airlines go bankrupt because no one travels, all those fat over-paid CEO's make jack!

When people have to go stand in a soup line all day to keep from starving, they're not going to work. And when "they" break out the whips, people will just lay down and die. Production will go to zero when there's no one to fix the robots. And then the Jeff Bezos', Mark Zuckerberg's and Bill Gate's of the world will be standing in the same damn soup line.

If anyone thinks they can steal every thing people worked their entire lives for and then they can successfuly place those same people into bondage with no repercussions...they are clinically insane! It would never work. People will just lay down. They won't fear death...they will welcome it!

No machine is ever going to butcher a cow, or a pig, or a chicken...not in our lifetime, and not in Bezos, Gates or Zuckerberg's lifetime. Thousands of crops simply cannot be sown and harvested any other way than by hand. And something tells me Bezos, Gates and Zuckerberg are not okay with eating genetically engineered everything, grown in a lab, and served from a tube, for the rest of their lives.

a reply to: solve

The entire western medical paradigm is driven by industry, that is true. It doesnt mean that all doctors everywhere want folks sick, or that there is nothing of value there.. But very little consideration is given to things like diet or healthy immune systems.

The education of those in the profession is probably a better place to look for issues specifically. Dont need to "have everyone in on it," just train them in a specific paradigm.

Kinda veers away from the topic, but in a sense it doesnt. I think we have so many issues that are being laid bare right now. And yet, so many are begging the very people who have created those issues to fix it all.

When you destroy the economy of the world, money means nothing. Doesn't matter how much of it you have...it's all worthless. Fiat currencies have been devalued to zero or less. When money means nothing, not even commodities like gold matter anymore. Gold does nothing for you personally; a chicken does, but gold doesn't.

The elites aren't going to be raising chickens anytime soon, or cattle, or hogs.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this. When money means nothing governments cannot exist, because there the value of the money they bring in for taxes has no value. Jeff Bezos can raise the price of that widget on Amazon Prime to infinity...and it just doesn't matter. Society ceases to function. And then it's just anarchy and survival of the fittest.

a reply to: JBIZZ

Well that's great news, not all of us are suffering as much as others. It hasn't really affected me much either, outside of a few mundane domestic tasks, and my children being home all the time.
I'm a survivalist by nature, so preparation was never a problem. I work as Reseller/Dealer in ECommerce and am in the Cannabis field.
So I haven't seen much drop off there either.
But...
Not everone is like us. And that's who my point was speaking for, though maybe I didn't illustrate as much. Sure, some of us can adapt well, or were ready, etc. But most were not. Obviously.
Those are who I am concerned with.
Those whom, if this does take a Totalitarian turn for the worst, would be the most vulnerable and targeted. But hey, if they don't matter, enjoy the private slip and access. The prep work and peace of mind. Can't fault you there. You earned it.
I'm just a guy on the internet who had more caffeine than usual this morning.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Yup!

Even when the economy is healthy, currency is nothing more than a representation of work & goods that have real value.

Many, at all levels of society, seem to have lost sight of that. I dont think its your thing FCD, but in video games there are "High Scores." These are represented in a lot of ways dependent on the game (much like there are many currencies depending on the nation, etc.).

Where we are now seems to be all about the score itself, while eschewing the process and work it takes to actually achieve it.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
You give up on the human spirit to quickly. Now the uber rich will have consolidated their position at the start of this virus.Understand if the SHTF they would already go their little army of minders to do their bidding. Why would the little army do it? Because to be in the little clique they would be fed. Similar to the barons in the middle ages.
Now, as for the humans giving up, naaah. You keep a farm, would you give up. No you wouldn't. You would find other like minded people to barter your cattle for items you want and if MR Bezos's little army was to roll up and take one of your 100 cattle herd you would suck it up and carry on.
Humans will carry on just not as before. Like I said earlier, the black death devastated Europe. Whole towns and villages wiped of the face of the Earth yet the remaining humans carried on because that's the human spirit.

Here is where you need to rethink things...These people are Lucerferian... They thrive off the misery of others. You have to grasp this concept to understand the enemy... Its all about control more then money.. This is instilled in them since childhood. Lucerferians raise there own as they were raised...its cultural..a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

a reply to: crayzeed

You give up on the human spirit to quickly.

Actually, for me personally, it's just the opposite! What I am trying to point out is how shortsighted some of this doom and gloom is in the larger picture.

Understand if the SHTF they would already go their little army of minders to do their bidding. Why would the little army do it? Because to be in the little clique they would be fed. Similar to the barons in the middle ages.

That only worked because the people knew no different back then, just like every age which succeeded the one before it. The masses today are not going to go back to living like the middle ages. They just won't.

Now, as for the humans giving up, naaah. You keep a farm, would you give up. No you wouldn't. You would find other like minded people to barter your cattle for items you want and if MR Bezos's little army was to roll up and take one of your 100 cattle herd you would suck it up and carry on.

No, I wouldn't. As for Mr. Bezos, he'd take a bullet trying to take the first steer. But if the world just went insane with starving bands of zombies roaming around, well, then there would be no hope, no light at the end of the tunnel. Then it would be time to just check out. I'm not going to live in the middle ages. I'm not going to live in a cave. And, I'm not going be a slave building a pyramid.

Humans will carry on just not as before. Like I said earlier, the black death devastated Europe. Whole towns and villages wiped of the face of the Earth yet the remaining humans carried on because that's the human spirit.

Some will...and some won't...which was kind of my original point. The notion that crushing the economy is some kind of a twisted and dastardly plan by the elites to rule the universe is just insane thinking and fear mongering. There's a terrible and deadly virus, this much is true. And mankind will survive it. "Some"...of mankind will survive it. But it wasn't caused by some dark overlord. It's just the way it is.

a reply to: Bigbrooklyn

No, that's just paranoia.

a reply to: Serdgiam

We all have our own version of the truth.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk

There's got to be something more to this.

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And when it was first lit, everyone panicked and thought it was the exploding type. Turns out, it was the same Cohiba as the last time. Whodathunkit?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I don't know what to think anymore.

All I know is I don't recognize anything or anyone around me.

I won't sit here and proclaim we don't have a serious problem on our hands, but like recent history, when America gets faced with adversity or fear, the masses allow anything to happen... While cheering it on and justifying it. #ItsTheOnlyWay

Critical thinking has been dead. Personal responsibility is now taboo. Planning your own destiny is bigoted and selfish.

At the heart of this IMO is a perverted manifestation of American Exceptionalism. We as a whole believe we can do whatever we want, and it's somehow genius, the best, innovative. In the end it's a cop out. We've thrown every principal people have once died for. We've allowed this experiment to evolve into an unoriginal and lazy Europeland type social system.

All under the guise of "the most right wing guy" we've seen since Reagan.

We've gotten played again.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

We've gotten played again.

Okay, but by who? Who sat around the world table and said..."They're all suckers, let's make them lick our boots!"..?

And whose boots are we supposed to lick anyway? The Chinese? The Russians? The UN's? The U.S.?

Democrats can't survive, even for 15 minutes, if there aren't people working and paying taxes?

Republicans can't survive for even 15 minutes, if the only people running around the streets have their hair on fire and are chanting "Mo' Munny! Mo' Munny, suckah's. Kain't buy me no blunts, foo'! I bee needin' mah' blunts, see? Ain't NO man gonna be tellin' me what to do, suckah's! You feelin' me??? YOU FEELIN' ME?????? I gots my rights, dawg, see? I know dat's right!!!"

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I'm not implying anyone conspired to do this... I don't think they're that smart.

I just think we've had so many inherent problems, this is the ilk we have run the show. This is what they're known to do when they screw up, try and spend their way out of it.

The only thing I do know about what's going on at a government level is it's bad. It's really, really bad, and it's going to cost us dearly.