In Two Weeks, Have You Changed your Mind about the covid-19 outbreak?

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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: Gothmog
No.
Hyped from the very start.
The numbers of cases here have dropped like a rock.
Kinda following my prediction that by July one would ask another "remember Covid-19 ?"
"No , what's that ?"

That would be great....

Sadly, in my state(a rural flyover) the governor is somehow clinging to a model that on the high end equals the whole of the US for OUR STATE ALONE.

Thankfully he's catching some flake, but at this point, he should be going through whatever process that removes him from office.

He's the rep of the state(elected by a sliver of the land mass due to megacity one voting for a retard, while the rural areas want nothing to do with his party).

I for one, am a bit more forgiving than most, I don't think he should be hung, but run out of office is fine.

Our governor held off as long as he could....

But folded in the end....sounds like you are the late stage when it comes to the overreaction.

I hope you hold him to a tight "leash" wrapped tightly around his neck....lest he wish to breath freely in the coming future.

Anyone would fold under that much pressure....
(except me , as I don't fret that easily)
And , yes , the folks of Georgia always remember at voting time.
Always.

a reply to: anzha

I'm amazed that people can't see that the lockdowns and social distancing will also prevent most of the seasonal 'flu cases too.

People quote the number of 'flu deaths like it were a trivial number.

They quote the differences in death rates as if the COVID-19 deaths were somehow instead of the other flu deaths. The COVID-19 deaths are additional to the 'flu deaths and will, most likely, exceed 'flu deaths for this year, tenfold.

a reply to: anzha

In the early days, I thought this would blow over and be less than SARS or the 'flu, and then the Chinese doctor who was the whistle blower of this virus, died. And he wasn't in any at-risk demographic. There were also numbers of other deaths of medical personnel who were otherwise healthy.

This didn't fit the 'its just a type of 'flu' rhetoric and I realized that with repeated exposures, this virus could be a killer of the general public rather than just a danger to the 'at risk'.

That, coupled with the fact that it did not produce an immune response because it was new and alien to us, made me see that it was dangerous, especially if numbers were allowed to get out of hand.

More contact points = more and worse infections = more deaths.

In New Zealand where I am resident, the numbers were small enough that I initially disagreed with the lockdown protocols, however, as more information became available, especially from Italy and Spain, I changed my mind and began to see that the rapidity with which the lockdown was implemented here was the reason for our low numbers and especially in regard to those of morbidity.

The pollution reduction overseas was also something I hadn't considered but was, at least, one positive coming out of the bad situations there.

As it is, NZ now have had fewer new cases than there are recoveries so it seems that we can control the spread.

I am sure many more will get the virus, even in NZ, but if we start with smaller, rapid, localized quarantine protocols, we can isolate small clusters and prevent an arithmetic growth in cases and the accelerating deaths that will cause, while also re-engaging our more usual economic activities.

Looking at what is happening overseas, I can say I am fairly satisfied with the NZ government's response. The results speak for themselves.

Nope, haven't changed my mind about the virus in any way.

Haven't changed my mind about political critters in any way.

Haven't changed my mind about the medical industry in any way.

But it sure has changed my mind about a lot of people... people who can't be arsed to know how to take care of themselves, who abandoned their elders and vulnerable "for their own good," ratting out their family, friends and neighbors, throwing away our rights and calling anyone standing up for rights "killers" and "murderers," all while cowering in their bubble... to protect them.

In Two Weeks, Have You Changed your Mind about the covid-19 outbreak?
Nope I thought it was a hoax from the beginning
Time has provided more evidence this true

a reply to: anzha

Same.

I think this whole thing is a hoax.

I was slightly worried that there could be a potentially dangerous virus out there.

But it has nothing on the common cold so whatevs.

yes went from Oh Snap, to Oh snap what are we missing while everybody is focused on the left hand.

While the numbers taken with zero context are horrible and when you splashy catchy doomporn headlines (msm) 24 hours a day it can seem like the end of the world, but we will weather the storm this in and of itself will not cause the end. (now if there is a secondary hit from the virus, wildly increased death rate, zombies whatever then my answer is subject to change)

The need for continuity of supply and demand is troublesome, the more time goes by the probability increases of disruptions in the supply chain.

a reply to: anzha

I've totally changed my mind. I was initially anti-destroying the economy, now I want the economy shutdown forever and we can all let the robots take care of us.

I don't think I've changed my mind so much, but I am getting used to the shut down in my state. Because I'm becoming used to it, I am in someways becoming less concerned, but at the same time I'm getting more worried esp. with personal security.

I live on 40 acres, with plenty of spring time clean up and repairs to keep me busy and my mind occupied. But my paranoia is increasing as I work and plan security measures.

For an example, the other day, my seasonal neighbor on the 80 to the north was checking out his southern property line (my north line). My GF alerted me to his presence and even though I was outside I hadn't noticed him (that was concerning).

My first thought was to confront this guy, but to get the shot gun first, or at least take a shovel with me. I resisted that urge and went over to find out who it was. It was the neighbor, so I BS'ed for a while, told him how I determined the property markers and hoped he didn't mind that I put some brush on his side. He was cool, don't know why I thought he was a prick, maybe that was his dad I was thinking of.

Anyway, I feel like I'm literally "jumping the gun" and getting an "itchy trigger finger" lately. I keep thinking about when I'll have some time to do some target practice and give them a good cleaning. Normally I'm not some gun nut itching to shoot me some trespassers, but I'm getting that way.

a reply to: anzha

The BBC has certainly changed their mind , they spent weeks and weeks telling people , " the vast majority of people will only have mild illness ".

Now, talking about Boris Johnson s near miss with Corona , and his recouperating , their newreader has just been saying
" yes , this is a nasty disease that takes weeks to recover from isn't it .. "

Haven't changed minds a bit about it , it was always a serious incoming compromise from the start , we worked out the r0 Vs dates pretty much on target , expected lockdowns beforehand , and now we re living the consequences of what a pandemic does .

It's pretty ridiculous seeing these americans still calling it an overblown threat , thats so ignorant . It's thought perhaps their feelings are hurt about being totally wrong in the first place . Old habits die hard , being flexible about their personal judgements was only way they'll learn . This'll teach them the hard way though .

a reply to: SwissMarked

"Normal" is gone forever. It will never, ever, get back to the same. It's a new "norm".

Nope still I think its a hoax or there is more to it. I called bull# on it on the 10th of march on my podcast. Im in the UK and been since 23rd of march.

a reply to: anzha

No I still think it's bull# and the world's lost its collective mind and is letting themselves be herded along merrily to a terrible future worse than any dystopian science fiction i've read at least.

i have been on the fence about the severity of this virus, but unless this fact can be discredited, I don't know how it can be denied. Regardless of what deaths are falsely categorized as covid19, the increase in year over year deaths in the Lombardy region of Italy has been remarkable.

In Bergamo, fatalities more than quadrupled, while they increased between two- and three-fold in several other Lombardy cities. In some small towns at the heart of the outbreak they were up 10-fold this year compared with 2019.

www.reuters.com... 77

I wouldn't say that I changed my mind over the last two weeks. However over the last two weeks the situation has greatly improved (or panned out differently) from our original worst case scenarios and I have become comfortable with (or normalized to) the current situation as it is today.

I hope this next week continues to show greater improvement (or better understanding) in what we are dealing with.


One problem I see with the question in the OP is that not everyone is dealing with this situation on the same time table and severity. For example it would go with out question that the people of China have a much different perspective on this virus than the people in South Dakota.

What's curious is that every web site I go to has people taking polls or asking for feedback to gauge consent about Civid19 and the response.

It's surreal.

And kind of sketchy.

a reply to: Gothmog

If I may, flu season is between the beginning of october to the beginning of may. the CDC link I posted explained that. So, there are seasons, but it has been more spread out than the current 'covid season' as defined by first case to present in the US.

As for accurate counts of cases, that we can't do until we have sufficient testing. South Korea geared up for mass testing on the first case. We did not.

Additionally, NYC is reporting 200 to 300 heart attack deaths per day above the norm. No tests are done for covid, so whether they are related or are caused by people not going to the hospital because of covid or... we just don't know. The massive rise is unexplained though.

a reply to: anzha

what do you think about the numbers I posted above about the year/year deaths in Italy? I can't think of another possible explanation, besides the virus, that would account for such high numbers there and in NYC as well.