Corona Virus Updates Part 6

a reply to: McGinty
Couldn't find what's in it.
All so they can keep Ivermectin off the radar?
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Jane

Just another little chuckle....
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Jane

a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

I just had what again may be a dumb question but many people have told me that it is not possible for the virus to get more deadly. Virus needs host and doesn't want to kill host, so mutations become less deadly. I am obviously not in medicine so I don't know if that is the case truly, or not. I found this article about how the new delta variant is 133% more deadly than the original 2020 version and I was wondering if you had insight into this... here's a quote from article:

They found that those infected with the Alpha variant, which drove the province’s third wave in the early spring, or the Beta or Gamma variants were 52 per cent more likely to be hospitalized, 89 per cent more likely to need intensive care and 51 per cent more likely to die of the infection than those who caught the early 2020 version of the virus.

Among Delta cases, they found a 108 per cent increased risk for hospitalization, 235 per cent increased risk for ICU admission and 133 per cent increased risk for death compared to the original virus strain.

globalnews.ca...

So it seems to get more deadly with each variant if I am reading this correctly. Are there some examples of other viruses that behave this way, or does every virus act like this and are people just wrong when they say a virus doesn't want to kill it's host?

a reply to: Chalcedony

A coronavirus doesn't think, it exists, it floats out of a host, connects to another host cell, enters the cell, and triggers a sequence of events by its presence.

The original viral particle no longer exists - the cell generates new viral particles and repeats the process. Just like Chinese whispers the viral particle is not 100% identical to the original.

If the virus kills the hosts, it will merely exist in situ until it can connect to a viable host or is destroyed.

a reply to: Chalcedony

On paper it sounds like ADE which corona, especially this one, seems to excel at. It’s not intentional by any means. They don’t think, the virus is it’s genome, the virion is the protein and other structures that protect the virus. It is at the complete mercy of its environment.

Flavivirus does this in a few ways. Dengue and Zika which are both of the family, can use ADE because of similar structures. They can also bypass pathways that give them additional tissue tropism or targets. Corona primes itself in our own cells to prep for cell binding. Most virions are not infectious without our own cells processing them or something happening like a cleavage by a protein or a pH drop to open a receptor etc.

What stinks about the SARS like coronaviruses is they attenuate very slowly yet seem to enjoy and maintain beneficial mutations because of the slow attenuation. It’s not intentional, it’s just that the new variants and mutations outcompete the original genes in the host. So our targets don’t work as well and we have to generate new ones in a race to control viral replication and inflammatory pathways.

With pandemics it usually goes in waves, mild, moderate to severe, to very mild and then endemic spread. But that was influenza, a highly mutable virus that is often rendered extinct and replaced by new ones so the pandemic ends. This is new with a coronavirus that attenuates slowly before it gets weaker and into an endemic or seasonal spread.

Viruses don’t care if the host dies or lives, they only consume and replicate. With a virus our own inflammatory pathways kill us in most cases or through the compromised component it attacks. A bacteria is different, some like anthrax depend on host death so it can form spores or infectious particles once it comes into contact with oxygen. Anthrax will die if it is not in a spore and our cells will kill it quickly. In a spore this doesn’t happen and our cells take it right to the lymph nodes and it hides and kills us. Others just want to form biofilms and maintain colonies while some will wait and attack all at once. Virus just binds and injects genes, no metabolism, no communication, no intent, just hijack and replicate.

Will we get to the truth - we can hope.

COVID-19: 'Serious errors' by ministers and scientific advisers 'cost thousands of lives' during the pandemic, says a report by MPs

Expect being Scottish, they will blame the English for everything and forget what they did was completely their own choice in most cases. But hopefully, it won't be the case. We can only hope they do actually find the proper people to be accountable and not turn it into an independence issue.

originally posted by: Chalcedony
a reply to: TheAMEDDDoc

I just had what again may be a dumb question but many people have told me that it is not possible for the virus to get more deadly. Virus needs host and doesn't want to kill host, so mutations become less deadly.

Well, my guess is that with a virus, it is a "survival of the fittest" sort of thing. If a strain were to evolve that causes the host to inflate like a balloon, float over the landscape, then explode in midair spreading this new virus far and wide, that might be a very positive development for the spread of the virus and an evolutionary edge for that particular strain. Wouldn't be any fun for us, of course, but the virus doesn't care about what we would or wouldn't like. Just like mold spores don't care that they ruin the bread we want to eat, the virus doesn't care what damage it does as long as it can infect new hosts and propagate on into even more hosts. It is when a virus gets so virulent that the host dies before being able to spread the virus to others that from a big picture sort of view, that is helpful to end an epidemic. But it would be hell while happening.

Now, an interesting scenario would be to have a virus become nearly benign, and extremely easy to spread and be harbored by a huge number of hosts. Pretty much ignored because maybe it just causes a slight sniffle or something. THEN mutate into something deadly en masse. A controlled evolution programmed in for a specific result. But seriously, for a virus that is claimed to have been weaponized with gain of function attributes, is what we are seeing what someone looking for an effective bioweapon would have had as a goal for their efforts?

IMHO.

a reply to: Chalcedony

My guess is that the key factor is Darwinian; how long the host lives or remains asymptomatic while infectious. In that respect the only things that make it less deadly are a shorter infectious period, or counterintuitively if symptoms get more acute, meaning the infectious are more quickly identified and isolate (if they desire).

Seems we are now up to

1. - Number of vaccines in clinical development 126

2. - Number of vaccines in pre-clinical development 194
WHO COVID-19 vaccine tracker and landscape


But unfortunately can't find a WHO Therapeutic tracker
But did find the 84 listed here COVID-19 therapeutics tracker

So how many of the Therapeutic options are being talked about on your News media?

Sotry I'm on a pad & not sure who this is replying to, but would greatly appreciate
any helpful info...

What are the medical exemptions that work? I keep trying to find info on duck duck
& any page I click on says page not available or other...therefore no info allowed.

I have a telemed appt 2mro & I desperately need to talk about med exemptions & need to be well informed. I have many issues & some not addressed yet ie RA, neuropathy I both legs & feet due to needing lower back as & other stuff...plus taking me 5+ yrs surviving toxic mold (carry a gene to that & Lyme) just finished meds so far a yr ago
but brain damage recovery so slow. The VIP nasal spray to reverse damages took longer than normal to start taking effect, was on for a yr but now off a yr I feel like
I'm digressing.
So AAAMeddoc if you read this, what are the Cytokine levels in a Cytokine storm in Covid PTs?

I am forever grateful for any input & wish DC Cowboy was here 's he got the exemption.

Been a bloody long day from he'll! I am at me event to run me dog (Sheepdog Herding) unfortunately this trial today thru Sun & the next Tue thru Thur demanded RT-PCR Test.
Had it done yesterday
morning.
This is an outdoor event & what sucks is I was not allowed to test before 12 Oct...Bloody He'll been helping out & competing at the National Finals, Mon made 10 days there & dogs ran 6 of those days.

I am now so depressed cause these next to events are the last 2 legs of me event & I am not allowed on the premises w/o submitting jab proof or test neg...So I am being shunned by everyone I know. Took a test that I did not want to take due to the sheepdog trial entry. Had to be RT-PCR & did it at a CVS drive thru...wanted a saliva test but was far away.

This sport is what kept me alive thru the mold, I was not expected to live 3 to 4x...
I do not have other friends or acquaintances. So the pain is deep!!!

Been isolated since March 2020, still do curbside p/u & wipe it all down before bringing inside. Do not go inside anywhere & keep me distance at the dog trials the only true enjoyment I know... I do not think I am a threat to them.
M bloody mentor Top in the World from Scotland has joined the sheep & keeps telling me best advice is to take the jab...so these next 2 trials are purposely set up to make things as difficult as possible for those not jabbed , ME!!! They are trying so hard to force me to take jab...I will not!

So please any help on med exemption so I don't sound like an idiot 2mro...Thx

Cheers
Ektar
I hope this made since no sleep & so tired going to bed now maybe the
Nite Faerie will bless me with good info for appt 2mro afternoon...
I do not know anyone not jabbed but 1 sister
Will fill you in on her 2mro post covid

www.lbc.co.uk...[/ exnews]
Covid tests at lab halted after potential 43,000 people get wrong PCR result

edit on 15-10-2021 by Soloprotocol because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

www.lbc.co.uk...[/ exnews]
Covid tests at lab halted after potential 43,000 people get wrong PCR result

cui bono

Who profited from there being so many false negatives?

Who would want all those people spreading the virus because they were told they didn't have it?

Who makes more money the higher the infection rate is?

Can these parties, or those they have access to via financial or nefarious means have any influence what so ever over the mistakes made in these tests?

ETA: Lastly and perhaps most mysteriously... why has my reply been posted as part of the quote...? Who knows?!

edit on 15-10-2021 by McGinty because: (no reason given)

Just crazy how the health benefits arent being pushed as the reason to jab up anymore .....

It's the keeping your freedoms which are being pushed .... or rather nudged...

Plan b....

Just a quick update. Last Friday I had the second Pfizer shot and I've downloaded my Green Pass. So I'll be able to go to work tomorrow.

Had it in the same place as the first, same doctor, too. As I said in my first post, the dedicated Vax Centre was very professional and made the ordeal less stressful.

Within hours I could feel some soreness in my arm and a slight fever, but I was already under the weather before going. Now, after the second day, I'm feeling ok, nothing major to report, but I'll keep you all posted if things change.

Still not happy about this whole situation, but they have us by the short and curlies. Sure, I could have refused, but having to make ends meet, to be suspended without pay would have been a death worse than the virus.

I'm sorry for people who are suffering bad side effects of the vax. It really looks like it's a very personal experience, with no two cases alike.

Most people will never acknowledge it, but for any open-minded person who has investigated the COVID scam with open eyes can see that the virus in all probability does not even exist, as the scientists Andrew Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, and Thomas Cowan say. There is no COVID virus. It is all sham.

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SO there is another plant about to be banned in the USA what do you reckon banned next year?



STORY AT-A-GLANCE
An antimalarial treatment made from the plant Artemisia annua (Sweet Wormwood) shows promise as a COVID-19 treatment
The drug artesunate — which contains two compounds found in Artemisia annua: artemisinin and dihydroartemisinin — is a first-line treatment for malaria
In a recent in vitro study, both pretreatment and treatment with artemisinin extracts, synthetic artemisinin and the drug artesunate were able to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 infection.
However, artesunate was the most potent in terms of treatment, and from a clinical perspective may be the only one worth pursuing

Artesunate’s mechanism of action against SARS-CoV-2 is as yet unknown, but artemisinin does have confirmed antiviral activity

But of course
The World Health Organization has come out in opposition to artemisinin-based products, warning their use can bolster drug-resistant strains of malaria parasites.

So can't avoid dying / get sick / not notice a sars-cov-2 infection because you might allow a parasite to give you Malaria. Perhaps double up with the really anti-parasitic only drug, they keep talking about to double whammy the bugs. Eradicate Bugs / virus and create more freedoms for people.


Would be a great double noble prize winning solution from 2015.

In 2015, Chinese scientist Tu Youyou received a partial Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of artemisinin and dihydroartemisinin,1 both of which have potent malaria-fighting properties.

Artemisia annua L. extracts inhibit the in vitro replication of SARS-CoV-2 and two of its variants

In 2015, the Nobel Committee for Physiology or Medicine, in its only award for treatments of infectious diseases since six decades prior, honoured the discovery of ivermectin (IVM), a multifaceted drug deployed against some of the world's most devastating tropical diseases.

Ivermectin: a multifaceted drug of Nobel prize-honoured distinction with indicated efficacy against a new global scourge, COVID-19

a reply to: puzzled2
The EU are gunning to ban Lavender (Essential Oil etc) because it contains the compound Linalool which is on the EU restricted list.
70% of modern pharmaceuticals derive from Plant Medicine. So this is a very sneaky way by big pharma to get whole plants banned because of one 'chemical component'.
Restricting/banning Lavender, Rosemary and Thyme.

Rainbows
Jane

I had to go pick up my 16 y/o son from school this morning. He is fully vaxed. He developed a fever (100.6 F), a sore throat, headache and chills while at school. He can't return to school until November 1st.
The interesting part was the paperwork that they sent home with him. He is not to be tested for Covid until 3 days have passed. His pediatrician told me the same thing.
Before the vaccines were in widespread use, they sent everyone for Covid testing right away.
Now they want to keep the 'breakthrough' cases low. If he isn't feeling worse in three days... no covid test needed.

originally posted by: butcherguy
He is not to be tested for Covid until 3 days have passed.

I was under the impression that the 3 day thing meant the 3 days directly after receiving the vaccine - injection day being day 1).

That would make sense, since the vaccine itself produces symptoms akin to actual Covid (which a few of us here have experienced).

So if you develop symptoms in that 3 day period it is likely to be vaccine side effects, rather than Covid. So, frankly i'd agree that visiting A&E or a GP in that period is putting unnecessary strain on recourses.

But if symptoms persist after those 3 days, then it may be that you actually have the virus, since the side effects should've waned.

If the advice has changed to: if at any time after vaccination you develop symptoms you should wait 3 days, then that's a little odd to say the least.

Would you say it's the latter rather than the former?

originally posted by: McGinty

originally posted by: butcherguy
He is not to be tested for Covid until 3 days have passed.

I was under the impression that the 3 day thing meant the 3 days directly after receiving the vaccine - injection day being day 1).

That would make sense, since the vaccine itself produces symptoms akin to actual Covid (which a few of us here have experienced).

So if you develop symptoms in that 3 day period it is likely to be vaccine side effects, rather than Covid. So, frankly i'd agree that visiting A&E or a GP in that period is putting unnecessary strain on recourses.

But if symptoms persist after those 3 days, then it may be that you actually have the virus, since the side effects should've waned.

If the advice has changed to: if at any time after vaccination you develop symptoms you should wait 3 days, then that's a little odd to say the least.

Would you say it's the latter rather than the former?

He was vaccinated months ago.
Both the school nurse and his pediatrician that vaccinated him are aware of that.

Oh, and a guy that I work with called his doctor to see if he should get tested for covid, since he had some symptoms. The doctor said he should not get tested, since he is vaccinated. He is a first responder, so he was one of the first people to get vaccinated when the vaccines were available.