What’s the Evidence for 5G being the cause of this Pandemic?

a reply to: Jimy718

IF any of this is a lie; the whole world is telling the same lie...not bloody probable!

How about the big tobacco conspiracy, global warming, 9/11 or the war in the Middle East? That was all about religion, right. Or did you hear different from the msm?
It doesn't mean I support this theory only saying it isn't that difficult to tell a lie and make the whole world believe it.

And of course despite years of research and testing by people far more knowledgeable than me or thee, you still think that the frequency operated by any of the mobile network masts are going to annihilate the people? A little counter productive don't you think?

You get far more dangerous radiation from an X-ray
a reply to: Lucence189

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

You get far more dangerous radiation from an X-ray

Yes. X-ray is ionizing radiation.
Microwave is not.

originally posted by: intergalactic fire
a reply to: Jimy718

IF any of this is a lie; the whole world is telling the same lie...not bloody probable!

How about the big tobacco conspiracy, global warming, 9/11 or the war in the Middle East? That was all about religion, right. Or did you hear different from the msm?

Msm??!!??? I usually don't pay much attention to any source until they have been properly vetted. When I look at the sources used by those 'reporters' / aggregators I can see where they get their data, and decide IF that source is viable.

And, those 'conspiracies' you mention; I haven't followed very much; except to say that the "Global Warming" isn't truly real, although Climate change is...that change is more Natural than artificial or Human caused.

It doesn't mean I support this theory only saying it isn't that difficult to tell a lie and make the whole world believe it.

The major difference here is that NO ONE is trying to get the whole world to believe anything; it the whole world overacting and distorting the reality (turning CoVid-19 into a lie on a global scale).

originally posted by: Lucence189
Now, larger frequencies (with enough energy) have the ability to send electrons spinning, breaking their bonds. The case is true for a source that would emit 60ghz frequency with enough power. The O2 molecules within that line of path would break down to O, which means a biological being would be unable to bind blood hemoglobin with oxygen. Of course, the higher the frequency the more directional it is and the more power is needed to cover a larger distance so it's not like we can send an omnidirectional, ominous amount of radiation throughout an area, but just take a look at one of the towers. Most of them will have 3-4 large generators next to them (at least in the UK). You would expect a fenced-off area with about 150m distance from these things. But no, we're casually having them placed outside schools and bus stops.

Do you have a viable source for any of this? I have a rather extensive education that tends to disagree.

For instance; Higher frequencies ARE NOT any more directional than lower frequencies, that sort of 'thing' is determined solely by the antenna. Also, the energy of an EM signal will loose "power" over distance, but it is absolutely equal to ALL frequencies...it's a Physics thing.

Oops dbl

a reply to: underwerks
# Me too, I had a shout with a friend of mine who kept sending me messages over 5G Corona virus connection, I told him that, better concocted theory is it's man-made stuff that most likely got loose, or better yet Eating weird wild sht from a gaddamed nasty Af wet market! will eventually result in cross contamination ....but naaw !! ,the last one was too easy, I don't know if 5G is dangerous or how dangerous but I find the willingness to believe everything without proof , disconcerting.

a reply to: underwerks

What’s the Evidence for 5G being the cause of this Pandemic?

Abject stupidity on the part of those who believe it.

a reply to: underwerks
If there are no independent on going research.... there is also no evidence that it is not harmful to health.

Mr Blumenthal asks questions in this 4 minute clip....... he states the Americans deserve to know the health effects of 5g.

He ends with........
"So we are flying blind where health and safety is concerned....."

What evidence is there (scientific journals, respectable publications) that 5G is even able to cause any of this?

There is none. It's all a bunch of hogwash created by conspiracy theorists.

originally posted by: logicsoda

What evidence is there (scientific journals, respectable publications) that 5G is even able to cause any of this?

There is none. It's all a bunch of hogwash created by conspiracy theorists.

There is none...... because if you watch the video posted above your post.... you will find that there have been no independent studies on 5g effects on hunan health, according to the answers given in the vid.

a reply to: underwerks

I will most likely get reamed out for posting this, but I thought the video was extremely interesting. From what I understand, the interview was live streamed on YouTube and had an extremely high number of viewers before YouTube decided to remove it. It was re-uploaded to a few different places, thankfully.

I read your point earlier in the thread about how the cabal may be responsible for “amplifying” videos of this nature in order to encourage the disinformation or conspiracy. I’ve often thought the same, and I sometimes think they will purposely remove videos like this from platforms in order to make it seem like they’re trying to hide something.

On the other hand, they may actually be trying to suppress something. I will never know. Anyways, here’s the video...

www.davidicke.com...

a reply to: Itisnowagain
As F4guy pointed out in page 4 and smkymcnugget420 pointed out in page 5, 5g is a data transmission protocol. It isn't a wavelength. It can and is used in the same ranges that are already in use.

What that vid shows is that people don't even really know what 5g is.

originally posted by: Aallanon
a reply to: underwerks

It probably means you don’t have any kids. Stop playing games with words.

Damn near every comment of yours is you literally twisting words around to fit your agenda. Take your own advice and stop acting like a pathetic human.

You're acting like nothing is going on when I bet anything you barely leave the house yourself. Which is why you're not seeing it. Asking for people of proof of all these people getting sick and proof there's massive bodies. Look on YouTube right now for drone footage of a mass grave being filled in NEW YORK. Made up mostly of homeless and unclaimed people who died from this virus. All the cities that got hit hard are going to have mass graves popping up soon.

Stop playing games with words.

This is EXACTLY what you're doing and seems to be all you do. Let's be honest here. You're using all of this to troll. That's all you're doing. I'm glad my life isn't so empty and void that that's how I live it. Sitting online attacking people all day because I'm soo desperate for attention and afraid to leave the cave.

Go find a hobby and get a life

Light doesn't hurt you! Look, we're surrounded by it!...

But... what about a laser? A high powered laser? How about a really high powered laser?

Errrrm....

Frequencies can't hurt you, we're surrounded by them! We've been using frequencies for ever!

But... what about focused frequencies? What about focused frequencies at high power? What about focused frequencies at really high power? What about focused frequencies at really high power in close proximity to people?

Errrrrrmmmmm....

Frequencies can't hurt you...

Go sit in a microwave and tell me that (Microwave 4G technology). Anyone here making claims against what 5G can or can't do are either agent men or devoid of logic or something else, but I won't be that rude.
Power... frequency range... focus... proximity... effect.
Enough to cause cells to react as though infected? That's the question no?

Hey, have a read of an article on Scientific Amererican

Excerpt:-

Citing this large body of research, more than 240 scientists who have published peer-reviewed research on the biologic and health effects of nonionizing electromagnetic fields (EMF) signed the International EMF Scientist Appeal, which calls for stronger exposure limits. The appeal makes the following assertions:

“Numerous recent scientific publications have shown that EMF affects living organisms at levels well below most international and national guidelines. Effects include increased cancer risk, cellular stress, increase in harmful free radicals, genetic damages, structural and functional changes of the reproductive system, learning and memory deficits, neurological disorders, and negative impacts on general well-being in humans. Damage goes well beyond the human race, as there is growing evidence of harmful effects to both plant and animal life.”

The scientists who signed this appeal arguably constitute the majority of experts on the effects of nonionizing radiation. They have published more than 2,000 papers and letters on EMF in professional journals.

Well, blow me down! That is from what CONSTITUTES THE MAJORITY OF EXPERTS OF NONIONIZING RADIATION... what do THEY know... bunch of idiots I'm sure. People here know though... thank goodness for the brains here! (Sarcasm off).

I'm drawing no conclusions... but to flatly deny any possibility of impact is absolute dumbness on a profound level... or this site is full of agent men? Are you all agent men? Are you truth seekers? What are you exactly? If you aren't truth seekers, then I'm not sure why you're here... why are you here?

Care to answer to the above?

Hey look at this too... Article

The U.S. National Toxicology Program (NTP) (National Toxicology Program (26, 27) has reported significantly increased incidence of glioma and malignant Schwannoma (mostly on the nerves on the heart, but also additional organs) in large animal carcinogenicity studies with exposure to levels of RFR that did not significantly heat tissue. Multiple organs (e.g., brain, heart) also had evidence of DNA damage. Although these findings have been dismissed by the ICNIRP (28), one of the key originators of the NTP study has refuted the criticisms

(Glioma - a tumour in the brain or spinal chord)
(Schwannoma - a tumor of the peripheral nervous system or nerve root)

The heart...

Hey look at this headline!

Heart Damage in COVID-19 Patients Puzzles Doctors

It puzzles them... what a strange virus. Isn't it though?
I'm sure the 5G RFR thing is completely unconnected, even though it all came online at the same time, and the highest incidents seem to be in those areas, it is all mere coincidence lol. I mean, you gotta be dumb to make THAT association. Glad I'm not that dumb. Hey! Look at the new fangled starlink flying over head! Looks like a UFO!


Hey, here's an interesting article about cellular excretion...

Here is an exerpt:-

Waste and poisonous substances produced by the metabolic activities of plant and animal communities must, in a similar manner, be removed or detoxified if community health is to be preserved. Collective wastes of individual organisms constituting a community, if allowed to accumulate to any marked degree,will eventually destroy the lives of all the community members.

Can cellular excretions pass between people in proximity (community members)? What could cause cellular excretions? RNA in a protein did someone say Phage? Is that an excretion or a virus? What could damage cells to invoke excretion?

a reply to: LetTheColdCome

On a side note, having watched the "woowoo" David Icke, weirdly, he seems to be making all the same connections. Must be wrong then! I'm going to ream you for that. Because he said it, it is therefore obvious bunk and I'll no longer think about it... even though the evidence is all there from reputable people and scientists.

Upstanding youtube taking it down did a service to humanity! After all, youtube has enormous reach. Removing it keeps it away from a mass audience. I really wouldn't follow that link, or share it for that matter! Do as you are told! Stay home. Shut up.

a reply to: Phage

Too much sunlight causes skin cancer for some lily-white folks like me.

Sensitivity to radiation in general is a subjective thing.

originally posted by: saladfingers123456
Light doesn't hurt you! Look, we're surrounded by it!...

But... what about a laser? A high powered laser? How about a really high powered laser?

Errrrm....

Frequencies can't hurt you, we're surrounded by them! We've been using frequencies for ever!

But... what about focused frequencies? What about focused frequencies at high power? What about focused frequencies at really high power? What about focused frequencies at really high power in close proximity to people?

Errrrrrmmmmm....

Frequencies can't hurt you...

Go sit in a microwave and tell me that (Microwave 4G technology). Anyone here making claims against what 5G can or can't do are either agent men or devoid of logic or something else, but I won't be that rude.
Power... frequency range... focus... proximity... effect.
Enough to cause cells to react as though infected? That's the question no?

Hey, have a read of an article on Scientific Amererican

Excerpt:-

Citing this large body of research, more than 240 scientists who have published peer-reviewed research on the biologic and health effects of nonionizing electromagnetic fields (EMF) signed the International EMF Scientist Appeal, which calls for stronger exposure limits. The appeal makes the following assertions:

“Numerous recent scientific publications have shown that EMF affects living organisms at levels well below most international and national guidelines. Effects include increased cancer risk, cellular stress, increase in harmful free radicals, genetic damages, structural and functional changes of the reproductive system, learning and memory deficits, neurological disorders, and negative impacts on general well-being in humans. Damage goes well beyond the human race, as there is growing evidence of harmful effects to both plant and animal life.”

The scientists who signed this appeal arguably constitute the majority of experts on the effects of nonionizing radiation. They have published more than 2,000 papers and letters on EMF in professional journals.

Well, blow me down! That is from what CONSTITUTES THE MAJORITY OF EXPERTS OF NONIONIZING RADIATION... what do THEY know... bunch of idiots I'm sure. People here know though... thank goodness for the brains here! (Sarcasm off).

I'm drawing no conclusions... but to flatly deny any possibility of impact is absolute dumbness on a profound level... or this site is full of agent men? Are you all agent men? Are you truth seekers? What are you exactly? If you aren't truth seekers, then I'm not sure why you're here... why are you here?

Care to answer to the above?

Thank you so much for putting it in laymans terms for these brainwashed people. It angers me so much seeing these towers go up everywhere..outside schools and bus stops. I guess 9/11 proved that people are either too dumb or too comfortable/scared to do anything about their livelihood.

originally posted by: saladfingers123456
Light doesn't hurt you! Look, we're surrounded by it!...
But... what about a laser? A high powered laser? How about a really high powered laser?

Ambient light is rather different than the light of a laser. For instance ambient light isn't coherent, a laser IS. And that gives light the ability to burn virtually anything. A laser has an effect not unlike Sun light; when yo focus it with a lens, or look at the Sun for short period. And, a good portion of that burning ability is related to frequency...

Frequencies can't hurt you, we're surrounded by them! We've been using frequencies for ever!
But... what about focused frequencies? What about focused frequencies at high power? What about focused frequencies at really high power? What about focused frequencies at really high power in close proximity to people?

Errrrrrmmmmm....
I'm guessing you either don't know the definition of frequency, or don't understand. So let me help...

A frequency is any repeating event, the time of the repeat IS its frequency. Like your heart; its beating has a frequency...right now my heart's frequency is 78bpm. The engine in you car also has a frequency; it is measured is RPM.

Frequency is actually an abstract term that has no meaning without context. So to bring up frequency as an abstract property of something is rather meaningless unless we know what object has that frequency property. -- just sayin'

Frequencies can't hurt you...
Go sit in a microwave and tell me that (Microwave 4G technology). Anyone here making claims against what 5G can or can't do are either agent men or devoid of logic or something else, but I won't be that rude.

Now you have given frequency some context.

I knew a guy, way back in the day, who was standing over the nose of a B-52 working radio equipment. He was standing with his "junk" in very (within inches) of an antenna connected to a 1kw transmitter operating in the microwave region. He noticed the Tx light had come on...he stepped back, and returned to the ground where it was safe.

After a trip to the Base Hospital, and some tests he was told he [I]might[/I] become sterile for a couple of months. So yes that much power that close, at that frequency is dangerous. It is dangerous at any frequency. We were frequently warned about touching RF cables as that might result in RF burns...never had one, heard they're not fun.

Here is my point: My friend was inches from a 1kw antenna when it became active. But, with all that power, unfocused as it was; why, oh why, was he safe when he stepped away? Because of the distance!

Power... frequency range... focus... proximity... effect.
Enough to cause cells to react as though infected? That's the question no?
Hey, have a read of an article on Scientific Amererican

You list of properties...
power...in 5G cellular technology the power is NEVER very much. For instance you phone has an output of about half a watt...but that is for 4G. 5G isn't going to be much more...because of the compact device and its power source. To much power devoted to the radio set will significantly reduce the battery's charge span. Would you buy a phone that had a battery life of, say...4 - 6 hours? (and that would be in standby mode)

Frequency...will have little affect on how much of that RF "power" you receive. While that will increase the photon energy you receive, you will probably be surprised by how fast it dissipates.

Focus...well actually building directional antenna to "focus" RF is a well known technology, however, it is not used in 5G cellular phone devices, though such antenna are used on the towers. Such "focus" is typically achieved using antenna arrays (like on a tower).

Proximity...the power of an EM signal decreased over distance...Prx = Ptx/D^2
where: Prx is the power you get to experience.
Ptx is the power output of the transmitter.
D is your proximity in meters.

Most towers are more than 100 feet in height. Some are on top of tall buildings. They do this for a reason, go get over object that may block the signal, this also gives you a very great safety buffer.

So, as it turns out, radio/em antenna have this rather goofy property known as the 'cone of silence', that is an area directly below the antenna where there is no signal, it is rather small and inconsequential, but, it still means that your distance from that signal source is going to be something more than 40 meters.

IF, that cell transmitter put out 100 watts (it doesn't) the amount of its energy that you would experience would be less than 0.1 watts.

Effect. Do any of the papers yo have read mention anything about the amount of power they are referencing? I've read some of these and they ALL make assumptions that are not within any engineering spec. for a cell phone. The all make assumptions that are not remotely related to the physics of EM

The reality is that EM dissipates so rapidly that special amplifies are employed in your phone's radio set just to be able to receive that signal well enough to demodulate and decode.