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posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 09:45 AM
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originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
Who owns Amazon? Jeff Bezos. Conservatives HATE Jeff Bezos because he also owns ''The Washington Post.
He subsidizes the Post with money he makes from Amazon. So what better way to take him down than to take way his money cow.


Excellent insight!



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 09:58 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I don't like Bezos, but that doesn't mean I want him destroyed. I cannot deny that he's built something useful and efficient, and people who do that deserve the rewards that come from it.

Where I get upset is from government intervention picking winners and losers.

Does Amazon remain the megalith it is because it's truly the best or because government regulations prevent any competition from rising to take its place?

The same can be said of many of the mega corps. They got big and they can survive what government does that impedes their would-be competition. Government doesn't need to strangle them as much as it needs to stop strangling the competitors.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 10:01 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Does Amazon remain the megalith it is because it's truly the best or because government regulations prevent any competition from rising to take its place?


Curious what regulation benefits Amazon gets?

Where they are able to overwhelm the local player is due to their war chest and ability to use that to locate and exploit legal loopholes; tax breaks, etc.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 10:27 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

You just named some of them. Regulations, laws, whatever.

The effect is the same. Every time someone demands new restrictions on this or that, it costs business entities money at all levels and only the biggest ones can survive.

People really need to be careful what they ask the government to do in the name of making things safe or making things fair.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 10:39 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
You just named some of them. Regulations, laws, whatever.


Those are all legal and not the government picking winners or losers.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

I think the real problem with rich socialists/US democrats is that they are ignorant of what real socialists would do to them when they get into power or they think they would be exempt from it somehow. They don't realize that in the end game they are just considered useful idiots.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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Breaking:

Just Announced - Health and Human Services I.G. produces a "FAKE DOSSIER" over CoronaVirus-19.

Another Deep State IG: www.washingtontimes.com...
edit on 4/7/2020 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:17 AM
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originally posted by: IredBafi
They've always been clinically insane. They're just showing more of it. It's what you don't get to see that should really concern you.


All of your replies are really small, in every thread.

Please stop doing that and just let it stay the size it should be

Thanks.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:36 AM
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a reply to: ZapBrannigan3030

I think it might be even better to place the ideology supported by the MSM, twitter, etc. as something that spans beyond politics.

The political aspects actually came later, once a foundation was built elsewhere (even in the video game industry). Its also not necessarily an ideology with specific beliefs, but based on behavioral reaction. As far as I know, its the first of its kind in that regard. Only possible with modern technology.

Ill throw this out there too: I wouldnt be surprised to see this ideology traced back to decades of work by the CCP (among others) to destabilize social cohesion in the west.

True global cooperation, from the grassroots up instead of centralized and top down, is the last thing they want. Despite it benefiting them as much as anyone else.. "Globalism," as most of us see it, is a carefully crafted concept to either get people to support mass centralization or not. Under no circumstances do they want people to realize it can mean something much, much different: Massive, instant cooperation & communication based on a foundation of individual self-sufficiency.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:38 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Did you just write that?

Who makes the laws?



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Did you just write that?

Who makes the laws?


Lobbyists, but they are available to all. For example, if someone wanted to negotiate for favorable local tax incentives a la Amazon they can.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

All lobbyists can do is persuade. They don't actually sit in the chambers and make the final decisions. If we elect politicians who take what the lobbyists sell, then that's on us and our society.

If are forming politicians who go with the expectation that their job is to take money and perks from people to write law in a certain way, then we aren't doing our jobs as citizens, morally, educationally, and when it comes to the ballot box.

Supposedly, they serve us and not the other way around.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Either way, those laws are applicable to all. If Amazon has the resources to exploit them then they are not benefitting from the government picking winners or losers.

The government picking winners or losers is 100% evident in the bailouts and who it decides to had taxpayer money to.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

Amazon peaked.....

They outran the competition but the competition has stepped up. Their reign is done, they are market share now.


I have literally received everything within 2 days over these past 6 years until COVID-19 came along, and that is understandable. I still don't see anyone coming close unless you want to pay 25 bucks shipping fees to make it happen in 2 days or less. I live near Portland so maybe it location as to what people experience. I also find it hard to beat Amazon's prices, and I try really hard.

Here is a recent story of mine. I traveled to England and my computer power transformer died. I looked on amazon and I bought one for like 20 bucks, half the cost any place else and it had 30 attachments for any kind of computer. It had a 6 days delivery time, (think it was coming from China) and so I set it up to be delivered in Italy at my hotel where I would be in 6 days. I did need to pay an extra 7 bucks for shipping since it was not normal, and in 6 days when I got to the hotel it was on my bed waiting. I can't find fault in that, and about 3 weeks later they reimbursed me like 38 cents since the custom fees were a little less.. I would need to say that is efficiency...




edit on 7-4-2020 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MRinder

Both sides of American politics are getting successively crazier.

Part of this is that they accuse their opposites of more and more unrealistic things.


Their isn't just "2" sides in America.

It's a bit more nuanced.

You have the TRUE far right, a small faction that most people don't give any credence to, because they are dumb.

Then you have the middle ground. The average "right" the independents, moderates, libertarians(classical) and the undecideds that oddly enough are the majority, but the ones with the least amount of influence.

Then you have the hard left(a small minority). Backed by pretty much any media institution(MSM, hollywood, all the social media outlets, oddly enough, a large amount of NON US sources/individuals(??Hmm)) screaming their diatribe in order to seem like a much bigger group than most.

It's a right # show, the safe place is in the middle, obviously. Or just as safe is being an Non US participant in the other groups(so your good).

In the end, it's all good fun, watching stupid people from a nice park bench overlooking the world(because apparently, US politics is literally the cornerstone of the world. I feel bad for the "non" players on the stage) .


There are middle-left as well as middle-right, too. The extremists never see the middle.

The extreme right confuse 'capitalism with a nod towards social assistance schemes', as Communism.

The Communists see the middle who 'prioritize their families and businesses', as some type of Neo-Nazi's.

The truth is extremists are extreme, and are unreasonable. They always will be.


True to the left, families are dangerous entities. Especially since they breed harmful and planet killing new humans.

AOC and others think the human extinction movement is brilliant and it will save the planet - for???? - dumb animals who don't give a rats behind.

Love the thinking of the left, families are dangerous to society because the government can't insure parents will teach and train little citizens in correct thinking and in loving government and the elite political class above all else.


You unknowingly make my point.

Families are part of the human condition.

Both left and right wingers, even the extreme ones, love their families. It is who we are as humans. There are, of course, exceptions, damaged goods, but the great majority love their families.

The fact that some hold to the concept that left-wingers don't love their families and the idea that those same left-wingers don't fully understand and empathize with that same love in others, shows an extremist's blindness to the truth and, possibly, sociopathic issues.

edit on 7/4/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Breaking:

Just Announced - Health and Human Services I.G. produces a "FAKE DOSSIER" over CoronaVirus-19.

Another Deep State IG: www.washingtontimes.com...


Either a dossier is a dossier or it isn't.




posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 01:18 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MRinder

Both sides of American politics are getting successively crazier.

Part of this is that they accuse their opposites of more and more unrealistic things.


Their isn't just "2" sides in America.

It's a bit more nuanced.

You have the TRUE far right, a small faction that most people don't give any credence to, because they are dumb.

Then you have the middle ground. The average "right" the independents, moderates, libertarians(classical) and the undecideds that oddly enough are the majority, but the ones with the least amount of influence.

Then you have the hard left(a small minority). Backed by pretty much any media institution(MSM, hollywood, all the social media outlets, oddly enough, a large amount of NON US sources/individuals(??Hmm)) screaming their diatribe in order to seem like a much bigger group than most.

It's a right # show, the safe place is in the middle, obviously. Or just as safe is being an Non US participant in the other groups(so your good).

In the end, it's all good fun, watching stupid people from a nice park bench overlooking the world(because apparently, US politics is literally the cornerstone of the world. I feel bad for the "non" players on the stage) .


There are middle-left as well as middle-right, too. The extremists never see the middle.

The extreme right confuse 'capitalism with a nod towards social assistance schemes', as Communism.

The Communists see the middle who 'prioritize their families and businesses', as some type of Neo-Nazi's.

The truth is extremists are extreme, and are unreasonable. They always will be.


True to the left, families are dangerous entities. Especially since they breed harmful and planet killing new humans.

AOC and others think the human extinction movement is brilliant and it will save the planet - for???? - dumb animals who don't give a rats behind.

Love the thinking of the left, families are dangerous to society because the government can't insure parents will teach and train little citizens in correct thinking and in loving government and the elite political class above all else.


You unknowingly make my point.

Families are part of the human condition.

Both left and right wingers, even the extreme ones, love their families. It is who we are as humans. There are, of course, exceptions, damaged goods, but the great majority love their families.

The fact that some hold to the concept that left-wingers don't love their families and the idea that those same left-wingers don't fully understand and empathize with that same love in others, shows an extremist's blindness to the truth and, possibly, sociopathic issues.



Everyone loves THEIR family. And everyone who is for far left policies thinks their family is not what AOC and others are talking about when they deem families dangerous to the planet and society. There is a disconnect. Even the most rabid US socialist thinks their family is an exception and is not dangerous to society at all. They see the problem as other people's families, you know, the evil and nasty conservative families who teach children to think for themselves rather than accept the socially acceptable and ever changing politically correct thinking. Rich, very well educated US socialists see themselves as the only ones smart enough to tell everyone else how to live their lives and how they should raise their children.


If people realized that true socialism does not value families as they can not control the family unit. For socialism to succeed everyone must be highly controlled to accept "correct" thinking as defined by the elite political class. This is why every single fully socialist country is oppressive, repressive and encourages children and others to report on any sign that their family members do not agree with even the tiniest thing those in control say they must believe and think at any given moment.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 01:31 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MRinder

Both sides of American politics are getting successively crazier.

Part of this is that they accuse their opposites of more and more unrealistic things.


Their isn't just "2" sides in America.

It's a bit more nuanced.

You have the TRUE far right, a small faction that most people don't give any credence to, because they are dumb.

Then you have the middle ground. The average "right" the independents, moderates, libertarians(classical) and the undecideds that oddly enough are the majority, but the ones with the least amount of influence.

Then you have the hard left(a small minority). Backed by pretty much any media institution(MSM, hollywood, all the social media outlets, oddly enough, a large amount of NON US sources/individuals(??Hmm)) screaming their diatribe in order to seem like a much bigger group than most.

It's a right # show, the safe place is in the middle, obviously. Or just as safe is being an Non US participant in the other groups(so your good).

In the end, it's all good fun, watching stupid people from a nice park bench overlooking the world(because apparently, US politics is literally the cornerstone of the world. I feel bad for the "non" players on the stage) .


There are middle-left as well as middle-right, too. The extremists never see the middle.

The extreme right confuse 'capitalism with a nod towards social assistance schemes', as Communism.

The Communists see the middle who 'prioritize their families and businesses', as some type of Neo-Nazi's.

The truth is extremists are extreme, and are unreasonable. They always will be.


True to the left, families are dangerous entities. Especially since they breed harmful and planet killing new humans.

AOC and others think the human extinction movement is brilliant and it will save the planet - for???? - dumb animals who don't give a rats behind.

Love the thinking of the left, families are dangerous to society because the government can't insure parents will teach and train little citizens in correct thinking and in loving government and the elite political class above all else.


You unknowingly make my point.

Families are part of the human condition.

Both left and right wingers, even the extreme ones, love their families. It is who we are as humans. There are, of course, exceptions, damaged goods, but the great majority love their families.

The fact that some hold to the concept that left-wingers don't love their families and the idea that those same left-wingers don't fully understand and empathize with that same love in others, shows an extremist's blindness to the truth and, possibly, sociopathic issues.



Everyone loves THEIR family. And everyone who is for far left policies thinks their family is not what AOC and others are talking about when they deem families dangerous to the planet and society. There is a disconnect. Even the most rabid US socialist thinks their family is an exception and is not dangerous to society at all. They see the problem as other people's families, you know, the evil and nasty conservative families who teach children to think for themselves rather than accept the socially acceptable and ever changing politically correct thinking. Rich, very well educated US socialists see themselves as the only ones smart enough to tell everyone else how to live their lives and how they should raise their children.


If people realized that true socialism does not value families as they can not control the family unit. For socialism to succeed everyone must be highly controlled to accept "correct" thinking as defined by the elite political class. This is why every single fully socialist country is oppressive, repressive and encourages children and others to report on any sign that their family members do not agree with even the tiniest thing those in control say they must believe and think at any given moment.


You are telling us what is in the minds of people you neither know nor interact with. Are you a mind reader?

It occurs to me that so many extremist mouthpieces are constantly telling us what other people (who they clearly do not care to understand), think.

edit on 7/4/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MRinder

Both sides of American politics are getting successively crazier.

Part of this is that they accuse their opposites of more and more unrealistic things.


Their isn't just "2" sides in America.

It's a bit more nuanced.

You have the TRUE far right, a small faction that most people don't give any credence to, because they are dumb.

Then you have the middle ground. The average "right" the independents, moderates, libertarians(classical) and the undecideds that oddly enough are the majority, but the ones with the least amount of influence.

Then you have the hard left(a small minority). Backed by pretty much any media institution(MSM, hollywood, all the social media outlets, oddly enough, a large amount of NON US sources/individuals(??Hmm)) screaming their diatribe in order to seem like a much bigger group than most.

It's a right # show, the safe place is in the middle, obviously. Or just as safe is being an Non US participant in the other groups(so your good).

In the end, it's all good fun, watching stupid people from a nice park bench overlooking the world(because apparently, US politics is literally the cornerstone of the world. I feel bad for the "non" players on the stage) .


There are middle-left as well as middle-right, too. The extremists never see the middle.

The extreme right confuse 'capitalism with a nod towards social assistance schemes', as Communism.

The Communists see the middle who 'prioritize their families and businesses', as some type of Neo-Nazi's.

The truth is extremists are extreme, and are unreasonable. They always will be.


True to the left, families are dangerous entities. Especially since they breed harmful and planet killing new humans.

AOC and others think the human extinction movement is brilliant and it will save the planet - for???? - dumb animals who don't give a rats behind.

Love the thinking of the left, families are dangerous to society because the government can't insure parents will teach and train little citizens in correct thinking and in loving government and the elite political class above all else.


You unknowingly make my point.

Families are part of the human condition.

Both left and right wingers, even the extreme ones, love their families. It is who we are as humans. There are, of course, exceptions, damaged goods, but the great majority love their families.

The fact that some hold to the concept that left-wingers don't love their families and the idea that those same left-wingers don't fully understand and empathize with that same love in others, shows an extremist's blindness to the truth and, possibly, sociopathic issues.



Everyone loves THEIR family. And everyone who is for far left policies thinks their family is not what AOC and others are talking about when they deem families dangerous to the planet and society. There is a disconnect. Even the most rabid US socialist thinks their family is an exception and is not dangerous to society at all. They see the problem as other people's families, you know, the evil and nasty conservative families who teach children to think for themselves rather than accept the socially acceptable and ever changing politically correct thinking. Rich, very well educated US socialists see themselves as the only ones smart enough to tell everyone else how to live their lives and how they should raise their children.


If people realized that true socialism does not value families as they can not control the family unit. For socialism to succeed everyone must be highly controlled to accept "correct" thinking as defined by the elite political class. This is why every single fully socialist country is oppressive, repressive and encourages children and others to report on any sign that their family members do not agree with even the tiniest thing those in control say they must believe and think at any given moment.


You are telling us what is in the minds of people you neither know nor interact with. Are you a mind reader?

It occurs to me that so many extremist mouthpieces are constantly telling us what other people (who they clearly do not care to understand), think.


What makes you so all knowing that you can say I don't know or interact with leftists?

That's pretty condescending and arrogant of you to say such a thing.

As a retired Univ. professor, most of my colleagues were far left. One of my favorite people was actually a Marxist, a real progressive lefty, and we loved to debate the merits of both sides.

Perhaps you choose to live in a bubble with everyone who agrees with you, but projecting it onto others is thinking everyone's world is the same as your own, an infantile self centered notion that the world revolves around you and what is your world is everyone else's world.

As a matter of fact the MD close friend I often mention who quit the Cornonavirus Task Force, a true intellectual, is very liberal. He was the only MD for miles and miles around who would treat AIDS patients for many years.

Another of my current good friends just sent me a diatribe on how awful Trump and all Republicans are. I think he forgot that I am a conservative when he sent the diatribe and included me in a group email to his friends.

You judge too quickly and from your own insular bubble my friend.

The left is getting crazier by the minute, and I am witnessing it first hand. The road to a deep and abiding desire for a totalitarian socialism is quite clear. Totalitarian for demanding everyone be PC or lose their jobs is just a tiny symptom of a larger thirst for totalitarianism where group think is paramount. Problem is group think, and what is PC today is offensive tomorrow. [ i.e. the proper liberal term for black people: 1960 Negro 1970 Black 1980 African American-which today's youth find offensive, funny because it was coined by Rev. Jesse Jackson 1990 Black 2000 Person of Color 2100 Black or Person of Color.] To be PC today and following group think will get you labeled as a horrific and terrible person according to group think a few years later.

Socialism, because, well just look at all the Democrats elected to office in the past few years. They want a rapid move toward not democratic socialism, but pure socialism. i.e. AOC, the Squad who have become the mouthpiece for the Democratic Party and the direction it is moving in.

I can assure you Socialism does not care in the least about individuals, as individualism is a threat to socialism/collectivism. They prefer individuals do not think for themselves, but rather follow what the elite political class tells them to think. In collectivist countries individuals who do not conform to group think by the elite political class are sent to re-education camps or worse, disappeared. That is real collectivism, in real action, in the real world.

So don't look down your nose at me. I do understand quite well the leftist/progressive/socialist mindset.



posted on Apr, 7 2020 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: ZapBrannigan3030

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: MRinder


What makes you so all knowing that you can say I don't know or interact with leftists?

That's pretty condescending and arrogant of you to say such a thing.

As a retired Univ. professor, most of my colleagues were far left. One of my favorite people was actually a Marxist, a real progressive lefty, and we loved to debate the merits of both sides.

Perhaps you choose to live in a bubble with everyone who agrees with you, but projecting it onto others is thinking everyone's world is the same as your own, an infantile self centered notion that the world revolves around you and what is your world is everyone else's world.

As a matter of fact the MD close friend I often mention who quit the Cornonavirus Task Force, a true intellectual, is very liberal. He was the only MD for miles and miles around who would treat AIDS patients for many years.

Another of my current good friends just sent me a diatribe on how awful Trump and all Republicans are. I think he forgot that I am a conservative when he sent the diatribe and included me in a group email to his friends.

You judge too quickly and from your own insular bubble my friend.

The left is getting crazier by the minute, and I am witnessing it first hand.

The road to a deep and abiding desire for a totalitarian socialism is quite clear. Totalitarian for demanding everyone be PC or lose their jobs is just a tiny symptom of a larger thirst for totalitarianism where group think is paramount. Problem is group think, and what is PC today is offensive tomorrow. [ i.e. the proper liberal term for black people: 1960 Negro 1970 Black 1980 African American-which today's youth find offensive, funny because it was coined by Rev. Jesse Jackson 1990 Black 2000 Person of Color 2100 Black or Person of Color.] To be PC today and following group think will get you labeled as a horrific and terrible person according to group think a few years later.

Socialism, because, well just look at all the Democrats elected to office in the past few years. They want a rapid move toward not democratic socialism, but pure socialism. i.e. AOC, the Squad who have become the mouthpiece for the Democratic Party and the direction it is moving in.

I can assure you Socialism does not care in the least about individuals, as individualism is a threat to socialism/collectivism. They prefer individuals do not think for themselves, but rather follow what the elite political class tells them to think. In collectivist countries individuals who do not conform to group think by the elite political class are sent to re-education camps or worse, disappeared. That is real collectivism, in real action, in the real world.

So don't look down your nose at me. I do understand quite well the leftist/progressive/socialist mindset.


Just for a second, consider what the motivation of these 'leftists' might be.

Do they just want so much to be lined up and shot?
Or to have babies killed?
Or to stand in welfare lines for most of their lives?
Do they want mass starvation?
Or untreated diseases?

edit on 7/4/2020 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



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