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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chr0naut
12.29 of known infected.
I'm not saying it isn't serious or precautions shouldn't be taken.
I'm saying you and the media cant tout these numbers as fact.
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: chr0naut
Our knowledge is less than perfect, but none the less, we have these figures to work with.
Working with garbage only makes one a garbageman.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: edaced4
So you consider these items to be essential??
Yes, I do.
How do you know I don't need these items to repair my home? If you read the order (why does no one have the strength to click a mouse button?), you will see that these products are specified as an "essential product." If you think they are not, perhaps you should send Governor Kay Ivey a message; I already have and the witch didn't' respond. I'm sure she will come election time, though. I just doubt by then I will respond to her.
It's not the store's fault that these people weren't practicing "social distancing".
I never said it was. However, it should be obvious that people when in line outside are not going to leave a 6 foot space between them and the person in front of them, because if they do someone else will jump ahead of them.
My point is that the order creates a line by necessity and thus creates a condition that is antithetical to social distancing which it intends to promote.
For this I do apologize.
Spare me. If all you can see are the politically correct parts, you're too blind to apologize. And I will get what I need tomorrow, by curbside delivery thanks to the store recognizing the problem, without having to get out of my car. I'm grateful to the store for that service. As a matter of fact, I may continue to use it even if/when the national insanity brings it's bearing on the next crisis to come down the pike.
I am curious, though: if you don't think the products in your store should be "essential," why do you work there when you should be home self-isolating?
TheRedneck
Nothing major... some nails, screws, and a few lag bolts, maybe a new extension cord. Something to do while I am waiting this idiocy out
So how is “nothing major” now essential?
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: BoscoMoney
This social distancing thing aint hard when you've been doing it for a good portion of your life.
Yeah, I was a hermit back when hermits weren't cool, myself.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: TheRedneck
This may not be what you were expecting, but I learned of a very sad situation today. One young man (that serves with my nephew) and his brothers are now not only grieving their mother, but because of "social distancing" and "self-isolating" instructions they followed, she died alone and afraid. She asked for someone to stay with her, but because one has kids and the other works with the public, they did not want to expose her to anything. They did not even see her for her birthday last month although she asked them to come "just this once". They told her it was for her own good.
They found out she was sick Thursday morning. Sometime Friday she passed away in her home. She was found by a neighbor.
They thought they were doing the right thing. They thought that they could make up for it next month on Mother's Day. They thought they were protecting her, and now they feel they abandoned her. I'll bet she felt abandoned too.
My birthday's next week. My kids are "social distancing" and insisting that I "self-isolate" also... for "my own good." I'm not alone of course. I have my husband. I wasn't expecting anything of my birthday anyway, but this sure puts an extra damper on it!
originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Boadicea
My son is saying the exact same thing to me... my daughter called and asked if I was self-isolating, to which I replied "No more than usual." I'm far less worried about this WuFlu than I am the stoopid virus which is apparently much more contagious and far more permanent than WuFlu ever dreamed of.
Long story short: she's coming; he's not... at least not until "this blows over." which it looks like could be never. I tried to explain to him that he has never seen me knocked down by any virus or sickness (the heart stuff was just me trying desperately to kill myself), and that sooner or later everyone would be exposed... but he doesn't listen to the old man any more.
That story breaks my heart, but at least I know I'm not going anywhere for a while. I can take solace in that.
TheRedneck
originally posted by: FinallyAwake
This depressed the 5hit out of me 😞
Not a complaint, story's like this need to be heard.
I feel people here in the UK are already loosening up on social distancing. We are so over entitled/privileged 😒
originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: FinallyAwake
This depressed the 5hit out of me 😞
Not a complaint, story's like this need to be heard.
I feel people here in the UK are already loosening up on social distancing. We are so over entitled/privileged 😒
I'm all for taking reasonable precautions for reasonable risks, but I fear in the process we are losing our humanity. We aren't taking care of each other, we're shutting each other out. That's just not reasonable. There has to be a better way.
I kinda wondered if I shouldn't have mentioned it. But I think you're right. We need to know what we're doing -- no matter how well intentioned.
It goes along with how a business has to, in the wintertime, make sure that the sidewalk isn't icy, to avoid a lawsuit
originally posted by: FinallyAwake
Agreed, I feel we (UK) need to be tightening up even more on social distancing rules/laws, we haven't even reached the top of the curve yet.
🤔
originally posted by: continuousThunder
man all this high strung hyperbole makes you look so damn bad.
all these gotchas are just so contrary and contrived!
burn down with your house? do you really, honestly think that's the intention?
do you genuinely think there's no way to work out individual accomodations for people's needs?
these orders are generalities designed to minimise spread, in an ad hoc setting where none of us have done this before.
but no, of course, MUH FREEDUM is so much more important than any sort of group effort, heaven forfend that the way of life you've led these past decades should be put out one iota. constitution.
On the other hand, I'm not happy with the self-isolation, especially for the elderly and vulnerable. More than ever, I'm likening it to solitary confinement (ETA: in prison), which has been deemed literal torture. Obviously, different background circumstances, but the end result is the same. Perhaps worse for the elderly and vulnerable, who haven't done anything wrong to deserve to be punished. I would encourage families and friends to either take in the elderly and vulnerable who are alone, where folks can keep an eye on each other and take care of one another.
originally posted by: GravitySucks
However, people with good intentions are trying to figure out how to best keep things running as efficiently as possible for as many as possible in these unique and trying times.
It's not as if they're getting a lot of clear and specific guidance, and even where there is guidance, it's ever changing, so they have to adapt and be flexible. It's not as if anyone is trying to make things difficult.
Maybe more cooperation all around, more sharing of ideas that are working, more polite expression of personal concerns, and less bitching might make it easier for all of us to get through this.