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Trump Administration Announces Operation Near Venezuela - deploys fleet

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posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 06:16 PM
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The only reason there is a drug trade is because of high demand. The Hydra effect will prevail as it has since the inception of war on drugs.



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 06:18 PM
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Well, if we wanted their oil, that would have been done a LONG time ago. My theory is that there are too many SLAVES being created that are offending even those who normally have no opinion of death and so on in regard to power and money.


Especially when it starts being worth it to make a slave out of a child from someone or so on with MONEY. I think the call has been made that this sort of thing is not "normal" business and is about to be stomped with viciousness wherever it is happening.

BTW, I am not a Q fanatic.



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: kloejen

the cruise ship had an ice breaker rated hull ,hence ramming it was not wise . and the law of innocent passage should have protected the cruise ship from the Navy response en.wikipedia.org...

Innocent passage is a concept in the law of the sea that allows for a vessel to pass through the territorial waters of another state, subject to certain restrictions. The United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea Article 19 defines innocent passage as: 1. Passage is innocent so long as it is not prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State. Such passage shall take place in conformity with this Convention and with other rules of international law. 2. Passage of a foreign ship shall be considered to be prejudicial to the peace, good order or security of the coastal State if in the territorial sea it engages in any of the following activities: (a) any threat or use of force against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of the coastal State, or in any other manner in violation of the principles of international law embodied in the Charter of the United Nations; (b) any exercise or practice with weapons of any kind; (c) any act aimed at collecting information to the prejudice of the defence or security of the coastal State; (d) any act of propaganda aimed at affecting the defence or security of the coastal State; (e) the launching, landing or taking on board of any aircraft; (f) the launching, landing or taking on board of any military device; (g) the loading or unloading of any commodity, currency or person contrary to the customs, fiscal, immigration or sanitary laws and regulations of the coastal State; (h) any act of wilful and serious pollution contrary to this Convention; (i) any fishing activities; (j) the carrying out of research or survey activities; (k) any act aimed at interfering with any systems of communication or any other facilities or installations of the coastal State; (l) any other activity not having a direct bearing on passage.[1]
so assuming no troops or weapons they kind of screwed the pooch on that and lost badly to a cruise ship lol

www.thedrive.com...

In what sounds like it could be an April Fools joke, a Venezuelan Navy offshore patrol vessel recently sank after ramming a cruise liner in the Caribbean Sea. The cruise ship, which had no passengers on board at the time and has a reinforced hull to sail through ice-filled waters, suffered only minimal damage in what the operating company, Columbia Cruise Services, has called an "act of aggression ... in international waters." The incident occurred in the early hours of Mar. 30, 2020, but Columbia Cruise Services only released an official statement on Apr. 1. The company, which is headquartered in Germany, said the RCGS Resolute was drifting just over 13 miles off the coast of Isla La Tortuga, a Venezuelan island situated some 60 miles off the country's northern coast, when ANBV Naiguatá, also known by its hull number GC-23, approached it. The Venezuelan Navy ship ordered the cruise ship to follow it to Puerto Moreno on Isla De Margarita, located to the east, accusing it of violating the country's territorial waters.
so not the best look for a naval asset being sunk by a civilian cruise liner



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 06:59 PM
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www.gonavy.jp... rough fleet locations for any one wondering , i bet they have not been updated for this new deployment yet though news.usni.org... more vague link



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 07:06 PM
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originally posted by: RalagaNarHallas
www.gonavy.jp... rough fleet locations for any one wondering , i bet they have not been updated for this new deployment yet though news.usni.org... more vague link


No offense, but it wouldn't take much of a footprint to overwhelm VZ. Possible it could be done (initially) with paratrooper and nothing more. Maybe one ship full of marines as well?



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 07:54 PM
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Drugs, money laundering, and terrorist funding. Economic sanctions and now the military is being used to stop the flow and maybe capture Maduro... he's in sad shape and his days are numbered. Remember Project Cassandra.

Article from 2017...

Hezbollah Smuggled Tons of Cocaine Into the U.S. During Obama Administration, Report Reveals


The Obama administration halted Project Cassandra as it was approaching the upper echelons of Hezbollah's conspiracy in order to seal a nuclear deal with Iran, even though Hezbollah was still funneling coc aine into America.



Over the following eight years, the agency found that Hezbollah was involved in coc aine shipments from Latin America to West Africa, as well as through Venezuela and Mexico to the United States.



Within a few years, coc aine trafficking from Venezuela to the U.S. soared from 50 tons a year to 250 tons, according to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime Statistics.



In February, the Trump administration sanctioned Venezuelan officials, including acting Vice President Tareck El Aissami, due to his alleged role in Hezbollah's money laundering. El Aissami "facilitated shipments of narcotics from Venezuela … He oversaw or partially owned narcotic shipments of over 1,000 kilograms from Venezuela on multiple occasions, including those with final destinations of Mexico and the United States," the Treasury Department said.


Soon... tick tock.



Goog translation


The President of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro, asked this Monday (03/30/2020) for Russia to resume contacts with Saudi Arabia and the rest of the members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), in search of agreements for "recovery" of crude oil prices.

Maduro calls for dialogue with Russia with OPEC for "recovery" of oil prices



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 09:23 PM
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a reply to: kloejen



“As governments and nations focus on the coronavirus there is a growing threat that cartels, criminals, terrorists and other malign actors will try to exploit the situation for their own gain,” said Trump. "We must not let that happen."

I said this very thing couple of days ago. See if I can find it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Maybe he is using the drug problem as an excuse to bolster our presence on our ocean borders to prevent another Mariel boatlift. During the Carter administration, I think. He is closing all of our borders to human traffic.

en.wikipedia.org...

The Mariel boatlift was a mass emigration of Cubans, who traveled from Cuba's Mariel Harbor to the United States between 15 April and 31 October 1980. The term "Marielito" (plural "Marielitos") is used to refer to these refugees in both Spanish and English. While the exodus was triggered by a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy, it followed on the heels of generations of Cubans, who had emigrated to the United States in the preceding decades to search for political freedom and economic opportunities.

After 10,000 Cubans tried to gain asylum by taking refuge on the grounds of the Peruvian embassy, the Cuban government announced that anyone who wanted to leave could do so. The ensuing mass migration was organized by Cuban Americans, with the agreement of Cuban President Fidel Castro. The arrival of the refugees in the United States created political problems for US President Jimmy Carter. The Carter administration struggled to develop a consistent response to the immigrants, and many of the refugees had been released from jails and mental health facilities in Cuba.

The Mariel boatlift was ended by mutual agreement between the two governments in late October 1980. By then, as many as 125,000 Cubans had reached Florida.

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posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 09:35 PM
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a reply to: Fools

What do we need oil for? Plenty here in this country

More than we can refine, and there's minimal demand for it at the moment



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 09:43 PM
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a reply to: Phage

And CIA normally puts down tin pot socialists so it does seem unusual

Maybe they will start hitting drug running vessels with salvos of cruise missiles? Thatd be smart, bet the ship wouldn't be insured for that either
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posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 09:51 PM
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a reply to: CharlesT

Cuban defectors are an integral part of our strategy against Cuba

These Americans have risked a lot to counter the communists' lies and support US truth and objective right-ness



posted on Apr, 2 2020 @ 10:34 PM
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a reply to: olaru12

Excellent point olaru


It stings but its true.



posted on Apr, 3 2020 @ 02:01 AM
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a reply to: kloejen What a fool only non Rothchild nation,can tell who he sides with,if we attack Venenzuela,Brazil amongst others will come to their aid,another Viet Nam,US will lose,we are toast



posted on Apr, 3 2020 @ 02:25 AM
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a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Also, if one wished to unravel the fabric of a rogue IC, pulling the Mauro thread would definitely get that going fast.



posted on Apr, 3 2020 @ 03:12 AM
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This reminds me of General Noriega and the invasion of Panama.



posted on Apr, 3 2020 @ 08:08 AM
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Currently, there’s a huge glut of oil on the world market. And even if the pandemic hadn’t caused a huge decrease in global demand, and even if Saudi Arabia and Russia weren’t wildly overproducing in a battle for market share, Venezuela is more than happy to sell its oil to U.S. companies. It desperately needs to sell its oil. So there’s absolutely no reason to wage military action against Venezuela in order to obtain its oil.



posted on Apr, 3 2020 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: JBurns

No, then the product would be destroyed. The SOP is to confiscate the drugs and 'process' them. You have to be naive to think the puppet masters are going to destroy hundreds of millions of dollars worth of coc aine and heroin they intercept.



posted on Apr, 4 2020 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: JBurns

Many of those Cuban defectors were Castro emptying his jails and mental institutions on our shores.



posted on Apr, 4 2020 @ 06:58 PM
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Venezuelan naval boat rams passenger cruise liner in international waters, damages itself, sinks.
www.bbc.com...
www.cnn.com...



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Yes, we live in different realities.

Yours is a reality formed by the belief that Russia, China, Iran, Bolivia, Venezuela, and Christ knows where else are out to dominate the US. You're probably too young to remember the great movie with Patrick Swayze called "Red Dawn".

I come from the reality somewhat shaped and described by Thomas Jefferson all those years ago, "Honest relations with all nations, entangling alliances with none."

Almost 20 years after the fact, it's likely you still believe in your reality that 19 arabs with box cutters hijacked 4 airliners.

It's OK lady. You live your reality and I'll live mine.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 05:27 PM
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Why basically announce that they're sending in a SEAL team or Recon Marines? Why give them any warning?




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