OMG, So Many Americans Have Died Since WA's First COVID Death!!!

a reply to: JBurns

You're right, it doesn't matter when "the people" acquiesce.

a reply to: daskakik

And since nobody has acquiesced...

a reply to: burdman30ott6

So one month on and you're at almost 80 000 deaths, what percentage is that now compared to when you authored the thread and it was at 2% and 5000 or so deaths?

a reply to: JBurns
Everyone staying home, observing curfews and wearing masks sure did. Especially those complaining about it on the web.

a reply to: daskakik

I did none of those things.

Fantasy island is no fun
Last I checked people were and still are doing as they please.

Not everywhere. Those people that are following orders did acquiesce.

a reply to: daskakik

What's your point? I've said all along, if someone wants to hide under their respective rocks let them.
Meanwhile, some of aren't scared of a minimal risk and put our civil rights above any danger

80,000 deaths since February out of 320,000,000 people in the USA = .025% death rate.

Or, as www.worldometers.info... says, 242 deaths per million citizens.

Just another minor contributor to U.S. deaths.

a reply to: JBurns

What is your point? You said nobody acquiesced. That is obviously incorrect.

Also, the freedom loving bunch isn't there securing their freedoms either. Just a bunch of internet chatter about living free or dying.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

So one month on and you're at almost 80 000 deaths, what percentage is that now compared to when you authored the thread and it was at 2% and 5000 or so deaths?

Its sitting on just under a 6% death rate 5.95 % to be more accurate . Just like the flu , i think not .

a reply to: hutch622

Indeed, I suspect it will get worse still as the infection spreads, the second wave will likely be disastrous.

a reply to: hutch622

No, no its really not. Studies have shown that as many as 400x the reported amounts are infected. Take your number and divide by 400. It's extremely low.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Not going to happen. Won't be any statistically significant number killed.

Like we've said all along, stay home and cower if they want. Some people want to be successful and are willing to take a risk to do it.

Nothing is "safe" nor will it ever be nor was it ever. There's always an element of risk involved. They can Coil up in their paddeded room under their favorite blankie if that reality frightens people.

Those of us with chest hair will continue going in public.

Besides, you realize that a tiny percentage of the country has 90-something+ percentage of total cases right?

Its a non-issue.

a reply to: daskakik

We're securing our freedoms every day by going about our normal lives. The default position is one of freedom until somebody steps in to try and stop us.

I wouldn't recommend it, but YMMV.

Let the 2% of the country with 90% of all cases cower and huddle. There isn't going to be a UBI or any sort of continual massive cash payouts. Either get back to work or go to the poorhouse. The choice is for each individual to make.

Yes, you might die. Its a possibility. Get over it.

No, no its really not. Studies have shown that as many as 400x the reported amounts are infected. Take your number and divide by 400. It's extremely low.

a reply to: JBurns

Do you have links for these studies or is it some person on social media . Real studies only . I am pretty sure if the great minds of ATS can find these studies the MSN could as well and they would be all over it , i mean ALL OVER IT . But for some strange reason they aren't . Funny about that .

a reply to: JBurns

Sigh...

We are all still going out in public but we are rural so were pretty much socially isolated as it is. We've had 63 deaths in t h e entire country of 25 million people, that has something to do with the people here being smart enough to work together or perhaps we just don't have chest hair..

Like anything else there's a huge difference between rural living and city living, just because you can't see it doesn't make it a non issue, part of the reason America is being smashed by this disease is the me and mine attitude you displayed in your post.

a reply to: JBurns

You are definitely not bringing down the tyrannical (state) governments imposing themselves on your fellow citizens.

All talk until it happens to you and then there will be more talk.

The choice is for every individual to take sounds a lot different than the, I love my country posted by you in another thread.

Nobody is asking you whether there should be a UBI. There are a lot of things put in place regardless of your opinion. You just acquiesce to all of those as well.

a reply to: daskakik

You say that, but in reality you have no clue what you're talking about.

You are definitely not bringing down the tyrannical (state) governments imposing themselves on your fellow citizens.

By doing what we've been doing, yes we absolutely undermine their authority forcing them to either try and do something or not. Thus far they have been smart enough to go with "not"

The choice is for every individual to take sounds a lot different than the, I love my country posted by you in another thread.

Nope.

Once again, my country is what I love. I despise 90% of government and wouldn't shed a tear if they were in the ground.

a reply to: daskakik

Nobody is asking you whether there should be a UBI. There are a lot of things put in place regardless of your opinion.

But not a UBI. And I've personally started donating to anti-aborition and a handful of other anti-liberal causes. NOT because I care about those causes/dislike them, but because I'm sick and tired of liberal democrats and their mouthy attitudes.

originally posted by: JBurns
By doing what we've been doing, yes we absolutely undermine their authority forcing them to either try and do something or not. Thus far they have been smart enough to go with "not"

Meh, that doesn't take them out of power. It just gives them a chance to try again later. Nice cop out.

Once again, my country is what I love. I despise 90% of government and wouldn't shed a tear if they were in the ground.

But you won't do your part in putting them there.

You just bend the rules when you can and acquiesce when you can't.