OMG, So Many Americans Have Died Since WA's First COVID Death!!!

a reply to: SoulSurfer
And what anyone else reaps and sows shouldn't be of any concern to you.

It isn't to me.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: SoulSurfer
And what anyone else reaps and sows shouldn't be of any concern to you.

It isn't to me.

If you were enlightened you would see how foolish this post is. There is a reason why we should treat others as we treat ourselves.

Matthew 22:36-40 King James Version (KJV)
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

The enlightened knows what "the self" is and how it connects with EVERYONE. As ONE.

a reply to: SoulSurfer
So everyone is free but they are not free to sow and reap whatever they want because they are connected to you?

Are they free or aren't they?

Do we all make up some form of borg? That doesn't sound very sovereign.

a reply to: daskakik

It means when you hurt another man or woman. You hurt yourself in the end.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Who is anyone hurting if they choose to stay home?

Better yet, what if someone hurts another and they are more than willing to receive the hurt back. What difference does that make to you?

a reply to: daskakik

Then thats their choice. As long as they dont drag others who do NOT want that into it. Im just teaching you the Golden rule. Aka morality. Im not a crusader trying to convert by sword. As american, we have the right to be left ALONE. Without anyone trying to impose themselves on us. Thats freedom.

Once enlightened under Natural law; a sovereign is able to speak the lost word. Which is NO. So i say no to those imposing this "curfew" and if they try to touch me in any way, they will receive divine wrath upon themselves. Cause and effect



I removed my consent to be a slave long ago. And have since then, abolished all contracts. Those in power arent stupid, they also know the same law.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

It isn't the people choosing to stay home that are forcing you or anyone else. It is the government.

When you come across a cop that doesn't disagree with the curfew lets see if saying NO is going to get you off the hook. Your anecdote wasn't you imposing your will, that was them not caring.

So, know you can call down divine wrath because of curfew? Why don't you call down a vaccine or at least a working treatment instead?

Sorry, my bad, that would be cause and effect that exists outside of your head.

a reply to: daskakik

You have no idea how the universe works. You will find out the hardway. Keep listening to ego, lets see where that gets you. The point is, YOU or the government cannot control a sovereign. The courts already KNOWS this. And so do those in power. They just hid this knowledge from you so you can be good little slaves obeying their commands.

With that, ill take my leave. Have a good one

a reply to: SoulSurfer

So, according to your logic, you can commit any crime and get away with it because the courts have to recognize your sovereignty.

I've seen a few cases where that defense didn't work.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Me take the challenge? You claim the virus is not that bad. Perhaps you should take the challenge I made, you want to claim the virus is not that bad? You need to prove it. Show us on film you, and 59 other naysayers, get infected and then keep on filming yourselves for 3 weeks. You are the one claiming "this virus is not that bad", so prove it.

You don't seem to care if Americans with a weak immune system and other pre-conditions that puts them at a much higher risk of being in critical condition, or even if they die. Is that what Americans did when the third reich was murdering people? Did Americnas just say "f this, I am not fighting for others," or did they put their lives at risk to save others? You want to ignore this virus, and we are at war with this virus. You have seen that the death rate of Americans keeps increasing exponentially, and you still claim "I don't care if those Americans die." You think it's better to just let the virus kill as many Americans as it would... That's showing you don't care for those Americans.

originally posted by: Lucidparadox

If we didnt act... wed have millions dead and everyone wouldve said "why didnt we do something!!!?!?!?"

When we DO act and save lives its.. "See! Its exaggerated and it isn't that bad! We overreacted!"

When you want to find a problem... you will always find one

This is very true and leaders and "decision makers" everywhere have this exact thought keeping them awake nights. We are all back seat driving here. It will be some while before we know if closing the planet was the right move. It is certainly a drastic move.

And now that it has been done, it begs the second haunting question... will this now happen over and over by force or ... will it become voluntary and will the masses grow tired of the "cry wolf", be blasé and then wiped out by a future killer virus?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Phage

Near impossible to say. I find it curious that privacy, a "right" the Supreme Court has essentially said nobody has an absolute right to is one of several things conveniently defended during a pandemic when, let's be honest, medical privacy may actually cost more lives than, say, permitting the free exercise of religious practices would.

I wonder what Germany is doing about privacy with their new labelling policy. I heard on bloomberg radio today someone floating the idea of daily testing and dated badges so that negative covid could go back to work. Gee how could that go wrong or get corrupted... let's think...

If youve seen the video, the cameraman asked the people at the hospital and they have not seen a case yet in their hospital, yet the mainstream media lied and said that the very hospital (which was visited by the camera man) had said that it was "jam packed" but the people at the hospital basically proved that was not the case.


Again, had you seen the video, you wouldnt need to ask that question.

Also the James O keefe video, which you criticized also asked nurses questions. But you dont care about that because you're obviously against what James o keefe says. Even though ITS THE TRUTH.

PS: #filmyourhospital is trending right now.

This just gets funnier and funnier! So, what do we know the media for? The going over the top and lying! Do I trust mainstream media? No, I do not! So I do not believe much they say. Are the mainstream media loving this virus? Yes they are! Why? Because it sells newspapers and makes people watch their shows. I am not disputing that, and never have.

So, at best, what does your video prove? Do not trust the media!

Now let's get back to being logical. If what you are saying is true, then all the doctors, nurses, hospital workers are part of this conspirecy. We are talking about thousands of people here, not just ten or twenty people.

So, please tell me, how did they manage to do this?
How did they manage to get thousands of doctors and nurses to lie?

If you ignore the question again, then you do not know the answer.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

So, you are a conspiracy but, and a religous but. That is a dangerous combination. And history has shown in the past that that combination can lead to death and violence. I am done with you! You obviously need help, and I do not want to feed your delusions.

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Actually that is what America said about WW2 until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. Prior to that incident, the majority of America wanted nothing to do with that war.
www.nationalww2museum.org...

Neither the rise of Adolf Hitler to power nor the escalation of Japanese expansionism did much to change the nation’s isolationistmood in the 1930s. Most Americans still believed the nation’s interests were best served by staying out of foreign conflicts and focusing on problems at home, especially the devastating effects of the Great Depression. Congress passed a series of Neutrality Acts in the late 1930s, aiming to prevent future involvement in foreign wars by banning American citizens from trading with nations at war, loaning them money, or traveling on their ships.

But by 1940, the deteriorating global situation was impossible to ignore. Nazi Germany had annexed Austria and Czechoslovakia and had conquered Poland, Belgium, the Netherlands, and France. Great Britain was the only major European power left standing against Hitler’s war machine. The urgency of the situation intensified the debate in the United States over whether American interests were better served by staying out or getting involved.

Isolationists believed that World War II was ultimately a dispute between foreign nations and that the United States had no good reason to get involved. 

Did you actually have any knowledge of US history prior to bringing it to the table here? I ask because it appears you did not...

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: and14263

And? Do you have a background in statistical analysis, or are you depending on others to tell you what to think about any particular numbers some incident may involve?

Luckily I have a background in stats from my science degree. Also luckily, I'm not a moderator on a website so I don't have to watch how I post!

Jesus wept.

The reason it has killed so few is because of the actions taken to slow it. Obviously.

How are we still having this debate with you paranoid purveyors of fake-news?

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
It cant factor them in because, let's be honest, the real numbers would blow the "OMG if 300 million American are sickened by this, MILLIONS WILL DIE!!!" tomfoolery out of the water. Fear of the "could be" only has a shelf life of however long it take to realize we've already passed the could be by and are now dealing with the "is" portion, which will always be reality based rather than fear mongering based.

When the forensic analysis on this is done we're going to find out fairly quickly that there was misrepresentation throughout the reporting of the statistics.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: SoulSurfer

So, according to your logic, you can commit any crime and get away with it because the courts have to recognize your sovereignty.

I've seen a few cases where that defense didn't work.

You are putting words in my mouth that I never said. Which makes you a liar.

Under natural law, noone gets away with a crime. A sovereign takes personal responsibility for his or her action. As long as a crime is not committed a sovereign is free. The moment you do bad things is the moment you lose your sovereignty. See this is why you have zero clues on what you are talking about.

Freedom and morality are tied together. The more morality increases, freedom increases.

Mark Passio Natural Law Seminar FULL version

originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: SoulSurfer

So, you are a conspiracy but, and a religous but. That is a dangerous combination. And history has shown in the past that that combination can lead to death and violence. I am done with you! You obviously need help, and I do not want to feed your delusions.

Typical of socialists, character assassination and labels is the best you can do instead of listening to someones concerns. You wanna know who else calls people names and labels just to character assasinate? High school bullies and Nazi germany/ brownshirts.

So you basically called us jews nut cases. (though you misspelled it with "but") Hitler said the same things you did, which lead to concentration camps of my people. Oh how history of tyranny repeats itself. Im just comparing your words to nazi germany not exactly calling you anything. But if we can compare history through people's actions, as a Jew i can recognize a real fascist.

Have a good one.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
If you were enlightened you would see how foolish this post is.

Do you think that unenlightened people like myself would see that as another amusing example of ego?