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OMG, So Many Americans Have Died Since WA's First COVID Death!!!

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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Phage

Huge difference between a decapitation and someone found dead from succumbing to some manner of illness. Early on in this there were reports in WA of Coronavirus illnesses and deaths being deemed such not because any specific Coronavirus test was administered, but because tests for flu came back negative.

You claim your a scientist, you know as well as I do that the fallacy of deriving an affirmative conclusion simply from the presence of a negative premise isn't a valid scientific test result.


For it to be recorded, then the death has go be tested and proved to be coronavirus. Are you saying they are just throwing out there every time someone dies? You have evidence of that?


The Center for Disease Control guidance says if the doctor or hospital or coroner suspects that the person had covid-19 at the time of death, covid 19 can be listed on the death certificate as a contributing cause to that death.


Oh really? Please post the evidence of this?



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:23 PM
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originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: opethPA




More power to you on being free meanwhile in the real world if you break the law you probably wont be free.


You mean the george orwellian socialist law? Which is fiction? I do not recognize tyranny as my ruler. Only God rules over me. Give me liberty or give me death. Thats my choice.

have a good one



Like I said, in the real world laws matter.

Go break one and then when you get caught I am sure the man will love hearing about how free you are.

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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: daskakik

Oh I am not alone, trust me; millions of people feel the same way I do. It's only a matter of time before people starts hitting the streets again but this time with full anger and rage. if you haven't noticed, people are getting armed as we speak least in the United states. Ive been paying attention to the stocks, the gun sales are off the charts.

All im gonna say is prepare to defend yourselves. Self defense is the priority when civil war breaks out which seems to be inevitable at this point.

People especially minorities do not like the idea of slavery of any kind. And many people world wide are aware of the new world globalist order and their attempts to claim global control.



You live for times like this don't you? I bet you have been waiting for this your whole life! A conspiracies nuts wet dream!



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris




Oh really? Please post the evidence of this?


People posted evidence, remember the evidence i posted that you never looked at when i spoke about the hospitals which was supposedly jam packked with corona patients but when someone outside the media went to that very same hospital they found a different story? You said you would look at it after work, but then you asked to post it again, which means you have no intention of looking at evidence, you only care about pushing forward your agenda. It's quite tiresome going around in circles with you.




posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:28 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

All laws must exist within the confines of the Constitution, or they are not valid, though.

You're on a very slippery slope. Virtually every American who stood against Unconstitutional laws prior to the past decade when America went batchat nuts with their schizo political tomfoolery and mob rules virtue signaling is looked back upon as a noble freedom fighter. Those quietly accepting these infringements may escape history's glare and just be viewed as ignorant puppets, but those actively disparaging and trying to shame anyone who stands up and says something will probably be viewed a lot more negatively by history, same vein as history views the civilians who aided the brownshirts.



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: opethPA




Like I said, in the real world laws matter.

Go break one and then when you get caught I am sure the man will love hearing about how free you are.


Thankfully the cops i encountered yesterday during "curfew" think the media is full of it. Im quite happy where i live, least the police here think differently than the governor. Can't say the same elsewhere though. Im enjoying my freedom as I should be.


originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: opethPA

All laws must exist within the confines of the Constitution, or they are not valid, though.

You're on a very slippery slope. Virtually every American who stood against Unconstitutional laws prior to the past decade when America went batchat nuts with their schizo political tomfoolery and mob rules virtue signaling is looked back upon as a noble freedom fighter. Those quietly accepting these infringements may escape history's glare and just be viewed as ignorant puppets, but those actively disparaging and trying to shame anyone who stands up and says something will probably be viewed a lot more negatively by history, same vein as history views the civilians who aided the brownshirts.


Quoting for the truth
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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 05:59 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: opethPA

All laws must exist within the confines of the Constitution, or they are not valid, though.

You're on a very slippery slope. Virtually every American who stood against Unconstitutional laws prior to the past decade when America went batchat nuts with their schizo political tomfoolery and mob rules virtue signaling is looked back upon as a noble freedom fighter. Those quietly accepting these infringements may escape history's glare and just be viewed as ignorant puppets, but those actively disparaging and trying to shame anyone who stands up and says something will probably be viewed a lot more negatively by history, same vein as history views the civilians who aided the brownshirts.


I haven't said anything about laws that are or aren't covered by the Constitution.

What I said was people can claim to be free all you want and break the law then I'm sure the man will love hearing about how free you are.

Based on all your other posts around COVID it's obvious you feel like your freedom has been infringed upon and nothing else matters and you are more then welcome to that logic.

Just like you think you are some noble freedom fighter by raging against this scenario I feel I am completing the same patriotic responsibility by temporarily sacrificing for the greater good of the country.

Who is right, who is wrong? Like most things in life the truth will be in the middle.
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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:02 PM
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Here's your dose of irony for the day.

Texas Woman dies of COVID after posting denialist rant'



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: Barcs

I'm not denying the existence or dangers of COVID. My God, is everything in your world purely black or white, or is this willful ignorance in the fact that yes, it is entirely possible to see this is a dangerous situation but still not dangerous to the point where everything should be shelved, causing far more damage in the process?



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I found this part interesting. Screenshot from the article Barc posted:


The family Deleted that the cause of death was corona.

Which also makes me wonder about this thread

Information Deception In Covid Deaths Uncovered

Here is quote from ketsuko in that thread:


originally posted by: ketsuko
They are apparently under orders to report any death where the person tests positive for COVID as a COVID death.

For example, the infant in Chicago who died and was listed as a COVID death? That's not conclusive at all. It had been in the hospital for four weeks prior with intestinal blockage and another very serious problem ongoing. Did COVID kill it or did it die of those other problems? They were doing an autopsy to try to determine that, but the headlines blamed COVID anyhow and that's what is listed.

There was the case of a 60-year-old man who suffered a fatal head injury from a fall at home. He died from head trauma, but because he tested positive for COVID, he got listed as a COVID death.

There is the case of the 17-year-old out in California that had it's own thread here. Recall the controversy about the urgent care having turned him away? They wanted to list him as a COVID death, but it later turned out he had extenuating circumstances and septic shock that had killed him. He was removed from the list of COVID deaths, but the mayor says he still considers that kid a COVID death "in his heart", or something.

There's Alabama where they keep two separate lists: one of deaths that are presumed to be COVID and one that are confirmed COVID. The second tally is lower. Guess which tally is used in the national aggregate sites? You'd be right if you guessed the first tally.

The first COVID death in the state of Kansas was a man who actually died of cardiac problems. They tested him for COVID posthumously because they noticed symptoms, and he turned up positive. So he is listed as a COVID death, but did the virus cause his cardiac trouble or was he going to have it anyhow? Did it kill him or the virus? Doesn't matter ... he's a COVID death because of his positive test.


Seems certain people are trying to blame corona for the deaths of people when the death was caused by something else entirely.


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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: Jay-morris




Oh really? Please post the evidence of this?


People posted evidence, remember the evidence i posted that you never looked at when i spoke about the hospitals which was supposedly jam packked with corona patients but when someone outside the media went to that very same hospital they found a different story? You said you would look at it after work, but then you asked to post it again, which means you have no intention of looking at evidence, you only care about pushing forward your agenda. It's quite tiresome going around in circles with you.



You mean the James O'Keefe ( O'keefe lololololol) video and some random dude going up to a hispital asking questions. This is your evidence?

And I guess every doctor, nurse and janitor all across America are all involved in this conspiracy, is thst right? They would have to be involved surely?

Do you know bow ridulous that sounds? I guess you don't, which is not surprising!

How about the hospitals in the UK? My auntie is a nurse at a hospital in London (can't remember which one) and she has seen what this virus is doing. Is she part of the conspiracy too?

How about all the doctors and nurses in Spain and Italy? Are they all part of this huge conspiracy too?

Honestly, I cannot take you seriously anymore. Goid luck find thst perfect conspiracy to end all conspiracies. I have a feeling you eill be searchingvyour whole life, and before you did, thst is when you will realise you wasted all that time and energy on something that was not real! Good luck!



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:21 PM
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You mean the James O'Keefe ( O'keefe lololololol) video and some random dude going up to a hispital asking questions. This is your evidence?
I would say the same about your sources. However no, i meant this one:

Mockingbird ALERT! What's REALLY Happening in Hospitals Across the Nation?



I suggest everyone to see that video till the end if you want the truth. Instead of listening to government shills who only want to imprison you in your homes.

Thanks for proving you dont care about evidence, only your socialist agenda.

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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:31 PM
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originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: Jay-morris




You mean the James O'Keefe ( O'keefe lololololol) video and some random dude going up to a hispital asking questions. This is your evidence?
I would say the same about your sources. However no, i meant this one:

Mockingbird ALERT! What's REALLY Happening in Hospitals Across the Nation?



I suggest everyone to see that video till the end if you want the truth. Instead of listening to government shills who only want to imprison you in your homes.

Thanks for proving you dont care about evidence, only your socialist agenda.


You did not answer my question. Are you saying thousands of doctors, nurses, and hospital worker are all part of this conspiracy? Is that what you are saying?

You are a using a youtube conspiracy but as evidence? Really?



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris




Are you saying thousands of doctors, nurses, and hospital worker are all part of this conspiracy? Is that what you are saying?

if you are asking that question. It means you have not seen the video. Once again, its going around in circles with you. Im done, enjoy your slavery. I will enjoy my freedom.



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris




Are you saying thousands of doctors, nurses, and hospital worker are all part of this conspiracy? Is that what you are saying?
Obviously that is the case. Because obviously COVID19 is no big deal. So obviously all those people are lying.

Similar to the way all those people are lying about the shape of the Earth. Because obviously the Earth is not round. So obviously all those people are lying.

And so on...



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:38 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

When you talk freedom in the US that's talking about the Constitution.



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:39 PM
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originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: Jay-morris




Are you saying thousands of doctors, nurses, and hospital worker are all part of this conspiracy? Is that what you are saying?

if you are asking that question. It means you have not seen the video. Once again, its going around in circles with you. Im done, enjoy your slavery. I will enjoy my freedom.





It's a simple question!do you think so these doctors and nurses and hospital workers are all part of this conspiracy?



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:41 PM
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www.ktuu.com...

The narrative is now claiming there have been 6 COVID deaths IN Alaska... there have actually been 3, the other 3 acquired, suffered from, and died from COVID entirely outside Alaska. I'm left strongly wondering if those 3 deaths are being counted in both the state of Alaska and in the states they died in.



posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: Jay-morris

If youve seen the video, the cameraman asked the people at the hospital and they have not seen a case yet in their hospital, yet the mainstream media lied and said that the very hospital (which was visited by the camera man) had said that it was "jam packed" but the people at the hospital basically proved that was not the case.


Again, had you seen the video, you wouldnt need to ask that question.

Also the James O keefe video, which you criticized also asked nurses questions. But you dont care about that because you're obviously against what James o keefe says. Even though ITS THE TRUTH.

PS: #filmyourhospital is trending right now.




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posted on Apr, 5 2020 @ 06:42 PM
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You should investigate.



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