OMG, So Many Americans Have Died Since WA's First COVID Death!!!

a reply to: Phage

Yeah Phage, we get it... anything that is difficult for you to substantially argue is a "distraction"... that song and dance got old long ago.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

is being filed as a COVID death.

This is incorrect. If the deceased has been tested positive that will be noted as will any other conditions but unless determined that it was the proximate cause it won't be declared as such. You really don't think that if someone is decapitated in a car wreck and had tested positive that COVID would be declared the cause of death, do you?

how many pneumonia sufferers dont test positive for general Coronavirus antibodies,

I was not aware there is an antibody test in use. Are all those who die of pneumonia tested?

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Historically the die at home from pneumonia numbers for the elderly is staggering although often not recorded.
We have an ageing global population, so hopefully this pandemic will leave some permanent positive changes.
The economic consequences of not having affordable health care are also at issue, and things like stopping tobacco use before it brings down the whole healthcare system would help reduce costs and leave some extra pocket money for health care.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
a reply to: Jay-morris
tell me something. Why arent the government telling muslims to stay at home and punishing them? are they above all of us?
Muslims in Kishanganj Think Social Distancing is Against Their Custom | COVID 19 | Bihar

Muslims are still on the streets, as the video i showed you shows.

Im just pointing out that the left tells you one thing, but they support other groups to do their thing. Sorry, i will not comply with socialism. Also I posted before that the media is lying about the virus.

Seriously? Are you really bring serious here? What the hell does that have to do with what's going on in America? Have you evidence that Muslims in America are ignoring this more? I doubt it very much!

But even if it was true (which it is not) who's fault is that? Your governments! But it's total BS, so I will not take it further!

Complete nonsense!

a reply to: Phage

Huge difference between a decapitation and someone found dead from succumbing to some manner of illness. Early on in this there were reports in WA of Coronavirus illnesses and deaths being deemed such not because any specific Coronavirus test was administered, but because tests for flu came back negative.

You claim your a scientist, you know as well as I do that the fallacy of deriving an affirmative conclusion simply from the presence of a negative premise isn't a valid scientific test result.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Phage

Huge difference between a decapitation and someone found dead from succumbing to some manner of illness. Early on in this there were reports in WA of Coronavirus illnesses and deaths being deemed such not because any specific Coronavirus test was administered, but because tests for flu came back negative.

You claim your a scientist, you know as well as I do that the fallacy of deriving an affirmative conclusion simply from the presence of a negative premise isn't a valid scientific test result.

For it to be recorded, then the death has go be tested and proved to be coronavirus. Are you saying they are just throwing out there every time someone dies? You have evidence of that?

a reply to: Jay-morris

Historically like the last several thousand years.
Many elderly still die in nursing homes from pneumonia and that usually gets recorded.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Early on in this there were reports in WA of Coronavirus illnesses and deaths being deemed such not because any specific Coronavirus test was administered, but because tests for flu came back negative.

That would be inappropriate. Have you seen those determinations for yourself?

You claim your a scientist

When have I claimed this?

a reply to: Jay-morris
The lockdown is a global one, not just America

I admit that the footage is from Europe/ London (the paul joseph watson video i linked) But the point is that they are saying it goes against their custom/ religion and they will not comply with social distancing. meanwhile the government over there are NOT punishing them, but rather punishing those without islamic beliefs.

Its basically hypocritical.

Also, all this virus scam is basically the socialists trying to take power and control over the people. Its called the new world order. And their plan is genocide of the population for their agenda 2030. Martial Law came first, then fema camps, and then the guillotines for those who do not comply with the new world order.

This is the real threat which is far worse than the virus. If you want to be enslaved thats you, but dont expect us to want to be slaves. I am free, and there is not a damn thing you can do to stop my freedom.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: ConfusedBrit


Don't worry. Since the "world chose WRONG" you will always be able to take that stand because there is no way to know what the consequences of choosing (your) "right" would have been. It was nothing but computer models and speculation anyway.

Take comfort. You can always say yours would have been the better plan and be sure that you were right. Even if it was no plan, after all.

Exactly this.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer
I am free, and there is not a damn thing you can do to stop my freedom.

Well, according to you, you are going to be guillotined.

originally posted by: SoulSurfer

Also, all this virus scam is basically the socialists trying to take power and control over the people. Its called the new world order. And their plan is genocide of the population for their agenda 2030. Martial Law came first, then fema camps, and then the guillotines for those who do not comply with the new world order.

This is the real threat which is far worse than the virus. If you want to be enslaved thats you, but dont expect us to want to be slaves. I am free, and there is not a damn thing you can do to stop my freedom.

When was the Marital Law part?
What about the FEMA camps?

More power to you on being free meanwhile in the real world if you break the law you probably wont be free.

originally posted by: Jay-morris

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Phage

Huge difference between a decapitation and someone found dead from succumbing to some manner of illness. Early on in this there were reports in WA of Coronavirus illnesses and deaths being deemed such not because any specific Coronavirus test was administered, but because tests for flu came back negative.

You claim your a scientist, you know as well as I do that the fallacy of deriving an affirmative conclusion simply from the presence of a negative premise isn't a valid scientific test result.

For it to be recorded, then the death has go be tested and proved to be coronavirus. Are you saying they are just throwing out there every time someone dies? You have evidence of that?

The Center for Disease Control guidance says if the doctor or hospital or coroner suspects that the person had covid-19 at the time of death, covid 19 can be listed on the death certificate as a contributing cause to that death.

a reply to: carewemust

The Center for Disease Control guidance says if the doctor or hospital or coroner suspects that the person had covid-19 at the time of death, covid 19 can be listed on the death certificate as a contributing cause to that death.

Source?

a reply to: daskakik

Oh I am not alone, trust me; millions of people feel the same way I do. It's only a matter of time before people starts hitting the streets again but this time with full anger and rage. if you haven't noticed, people are getting armed as we speak least in the United states. Ive been paying attention to the stocks, the gun sales are off the charts.

All im gonna say is prepare to defend yourselves. Self defense is the priority when civil war breaks out which seems to be inevitable at this point.

People especially minorities do not like the idea of slavery of any kind. And many people world wide are aware of the new world globalist order and their attempts to claim global control.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

So there are going to be a lot of people being guillotined or none because you are legion?

Just two pages ago you posted "I will note though, that violence is not the solution, the pen is stronger than the sword." Now you are talking civil war.

That escalated quickly.

a reply to: daskakik

Aye I said the truth, its not the solution. However Force and Violence are two different things. Force is used as self defense. Which everyone has a right to do. Do not confuse violence with Force.



Im not advocating for war, Im just stating what I have been observing. I do however advocate self defense. there is a difference. If you come at me with a knife for example, then i have all the right to defend myself through the use of force.

In the military, its called the rules of engagement.

a reply to: SoulSurfer

Your gymkata is strong.

a reply to: opethPA

More power to you on being free meanwhile in the real world if you break the law you probably wont be free.

You mean the george orwellian socialist law? Which is fiction? I do not recognize tyranny as my ruler. Only God rules over me. Give me liberty or give me death. Thats my choice.

have a good one

originally posted by: Slichter
a reply to: Jay-morris

Historically like the last several thousand years.
Many elderly still die in nursing homes from pneumonia and that usually gets recorded.

The lockdown is a global one, not just America

I admit that the footage is from Europe/ London (the paul joseph watson video i linked) But the point is that they are saying it goes against their custom/ religion and they will not comply with social distancing. meanwhile the government over there are NOT punishing them, but rather punishing those without islamic beliefs.

Really? I am in the UK, and have not seen or heard about this. There is no talk about Muslims ignoring this lockdown. In fact, if you go through highly population muslim areas, it's just the same as any other area! Again, show me proof this is happening?

Also, all this virus scam is basically the socialists trying to take power and control over the people.

Calling this a scam is hugely offensive to the people who have lost their lives, and the families who have lost loved ones. It I am guessing you do not give a crap about these deaths!

Its called the new world order. And their plan is genocide of the population for their agenda 2030. Martial Law came first, then fema camps, and then the guillotines for those who do not comply with the new world order.

Oh here we go! And again, show me the evidence thst this is the case?

This is the real threat which is far worse than the virus. If you want to be enslaved thats you, but dont expect us to want to be slaves. I am free, and there is not a damn thing you can do to stop my freedom.

It's a bloody pandemic! What else is supposed to be done to get on top of a pandemic? You know what, this virus will come and go, and everything will go back to normal, but people like you will always find a conspiracy, thats what you live for.

Whats the point of having freedom, if you spend you whole life worried about losing thst freedom? You know what that tells me? You have no freedom, esp mentally!