Nevada's Democrat governor outlaws hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus sufferers

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: jtma508

Yet I just read about a doctor yesterday who has treated 350 people with it and all of them got better within 3-4 days...these were people who were kept at the hospital...not just sick but bad enough to keep them. How can this be....they both can't be right. What should make me believe 1 more than the other?

Well see, that's the difference between something that's anecdotal and a clinical trial. I don't personally know anyone that has tested positive. Therefore the pandemic is a hoax.

I read the same story. No one knows how his subjects were selected, if there were any controls, etc. What he's reporting is just too non-specific to draw broad conclusions. That same drug combo was tested against the flu. It was very promising in vitro but when tested in vivo it was ineffective.

a reply to: Boadicea

Keeping tabs is not outlawing outpatient prescriptions from medical professionals. That's like saying guns should be banned because a minority of jerks use them for harm. Its lazy...keep tabs and arrest those breaking the law. Not even addressing that this could keep a lot of people out of hospitals and keep the pressure off already strained hospitals that penny pench shifts and beds quarterly like the government does with budgets ...spend it or lose it.

originally posted by: Kurokage
Maybe because hydroxychloroquine can be very dangerous if used with out medical guidance and dumb people are willing to listen to stupid misinformation and think they should try it.

Yeah, but you still don't ban a doctor from prescribing it. It's been shown to work in many instances.

Very stupid law.

This governor might have just killed some people because one desperate, dumb guy buys some fishbowl cleaner and kills himself.

a reply to: jtma508

Pretty sure the doctors documented treatments are a little more than anecdotal. I guess if his success is anecdotal then CCCP research is as trustable as a commercial on TV...

a reply to: Willtell

Dumb people take too much acemetphin and die or get hospitalized too...and thats over the counter...not prescription only.

a reply to: RickyD


This guy took an industrial product I think not even medicine.

It's too extreme to do that and too intrusive into Doctor's privileges. The governor IMO did a dumb thing.

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My friend and i gave eachother THAT look like wtf...we then try to figure out it could be done if one needs a prescription..a reply to: trollz

a reply to: Willtell

I live here so it hits home for me. Will I have to drive to a neighboring state to get treatment if I get ill...or my wife? Probably...

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: Boadicea

Keeping tabs is not outlawing outpatient prescriptions from medical professionals.

No doctor was outlawed from ALL outpatient prescriptions; only for CoV-19.

And as you noted this law only applies to "outpatient prescriptions," you obviously do know that in-hospital doctors are still able to prescribe the drug for in-hospital patients... you know... those patients with the most severe complications. So "keeping" tabs on the medications to ensure that it is available for those patients who need it most is quite practical. Especially from vile doctors who would hoard the medications.

The rest of your comment is moot because your premise was wrong.

originally posted by: Kurokage
Maybe because hydroxychloroquine can be very dangerous if used with out medical guidance and dumb people are willing to listen to stupid misinformation and think they should try it.

The dosage the CDC said was recommended is so high, too -- roughly three times more than what's recommended for malaria. It's given over 10 days, and the malaria dosing is spread over three...but chloroquine accumulates very quickly.

a reply to: Boadicea

Yes when we are collapsing the economy in fear of over burdening the hospitals lets make it so doctors have to admit people who don't really need to be just so they can get proper treatment that works. No...you enforce the law crack down on those who are breaking it and allow the professionals to do their job.

a reply to: jtma508

Oh cool, so I did what you’ve been doing for years. At least I’ll admit to it unlike the hypocrites like yourself.

www.doctoroz.com... a reply to: jtma508 watch this should make you rethink. People on deaths door cures in hours taking anti malaria drug

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: Boadicea

Yes when we are collapsing the economy in fear of over burdening the hospitals lets make it so doctors have to admit people who don't really need to be just so they can get proper treatment that works. No...you enforce the law crack down on those who are breaking it and allow the professionals to do their job.

No fear mongering and doom porn there... nope... none at all.

Please. Doctors won't be admitting anyone that doesn't need to be admitted. There won't be room. Remember???

And if you're really so damn concerned about patients getting the medications they need -- the best medications, with the fewest and least serious side affects and adverse complications -- I strongly suggest that you and jump on the high-dose Vitamin C bandwagon:

Coronavirus doctors treating patients with Vitamin C claim they’re doing ‘significantly better’

COVID-19: Doctors in New York now Recommend Critically Ill 16 Times More Intake of Vitamin C

Can VITAMIN C beat coronavirus? It boosts brains, combats sepsis and tackles colds… no wonder China’s doctors are racing to test its effects on deadly outbreak

a reply to: Boadicea

All for that too if it works...I will trust the doctor after a discussion with him...not one with the government. All this does is make people here leave to go else where or are admitted to the hospital for this treatment taking up resources that aren't necessary...rather than taking meds at home self isolating and getting better.

I am concerned with the economic situation more so than this virus...anything which helps us get things back on track is what I care about. Not sure about you or your situation but I have bills that even if they put them on hold the fact I owe them doesnt change...im just in heaps of debt. I can't be the obly one...how many and how much would it take of that to make the COV19 thing seem like the mole hill in front of the mountain.

All these fing moron politicians should leave medicine to fing doctors!

a reply to: Boadicea

Be real careful about telling people to mega dose vitamin c, sure fire way into kidney stones if its not iv or liposomal.

I don't know the details of the law but I hope it is true in-house doctors can still use it.

originally posted by: RickyD
a reply to: Boadicea
I am concerned with the economic situation more so than this virus...

Yes, I am as well.

...anything which helps us get things back on track is what I care about. Not sure about you or your situation but I have bills that even if they put them on hold the fact I owe them doesnt change...im just in heaps of debt. I can't be the obly one...how many and how much would it take of that to make the COV19 thing seem like the mole hill in front of the mountain.

Not much... at least I don't think so. And you apparently don't either. And I'm pretty sure we're in good company! Even the measly $1200 being sent out is only drop in the bucket for most people. For most people, it won't even pay a month's rent/mortgage.

But I don't think there's any doubt at this point that this pandemic is being exploited to rebuild our economy from the ground up.

link

New York hospitals treating coronavirus patients with vitamin C

From NYC.
Scared Lore just posted this

Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China, The Post has learned.

Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C.

Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then readministered three or four times a day, he said.

Each dose is more than 16 times the National Institutes of Health’s daily recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C, which is just 90 milligrams for adult men and 75 milligrams for adult women.

The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said.

Always let a health professional do any extreme care like this. This warning is on most supplements I've ever seen.

But let's face it people have to use common sense. Even Med marijuana has no scientific rules on what to take and how much. People have to be responsible and think straight.