Wake County Sheriff’s Office suspends all purchase and CCW permit applications citing COVID19

Seeing a 200%-plus increase in concealed carry permits and purchase permits, Wake County (NC) Sheriff has announced that his office will not be accepting new applications between now and 30 April. In the state of North Carolina one must obtain a “pistol purchase permit” before purchasing a handgun, and must have a permit to carry concealed if one chooses to do so. Both permits must be obtained through the sheriff’s office in the county in which one resides. This decision effectively stops anybody from being able to do either of those things in Wake County from now until the end of April, yet somehow the SO’s statement specifically says that the decision does not infringe on anybody’s ability to purchase a handgun. The SO claims that the decision was made partly to keep people from lining up at the application office, and partly because they have so many applications to process they can’t do so within the timeframe required by state law.

Those of you worried about the National Guard rolling in to town, comprised of a bunch of guys who can’t fit in their uniforms with some other guys who haven’t qualified with their weapon in three years, all of whom probably got lost at least twice on the way to your town should really, really be infinitely more worried about your local government doing things like this.

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a reply to: Shamrock6

Local Sheriffs breaking the law is never a good thing.

a reply to: Shamrock6

This is a sad thing. We have our 2nd Amendment rights trampled on enough already.

On a good note, the threat of a lawsuit has caused the Pennsylvania Governor to relent on his closing of gun stores. His excuse for ordering them closed was that they were nonessential businesses.

a reply to: butcherguy

That’s one of the sheriff’s arguments. You don’t need a gun during a pandemic so this is a non-issue.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: butcherguy

That’s one of the sheriff’s arguments. You don’t need a gun during a pandemic so this is a non-issue.

Shows that he has an agenda.
There is never a better time to own a handgun than when a pandemic could cause social breakdown.

a reply to: Shamrock6

That's why the Sheriff and all the deputies are going unarmed, right?

originally posted by: Shamrock6
Seeing a 200%-plus increase in concealed carry permits and purchase permits, Wake County (NC) Sheriff has announced that his office will not be accepting new applications between now and 30 April. In the state of North Carolina one must obtain a “pistol purchase permit” before purchasing a handgun, and must have a permit to carry concealed if one chooses to do so. Both permits must be obtained through the sheriff’s office in the county in which one resides. This decision effectively stops anybody from being able to do either of those things in Wake County from now until the end of April, yet somehow the SO’s statement specifically says that the decision does not infringe on anybody’s ability to purchase a handgun. The SO claims that the decision was made partly to keep people from lining up at the application office, and partly because they have so many applications to process they can’t do so within the timeframe required by state law.

Those of you worried about the National Guard rolling in to town, comprised of a bunch of guys who can’t fit in their uniforms with some other guys who haven’t qualified with their weapon in three years, all of whom probably got lost at least twice on the way to your town should really, really be infinitely more worried about your local government doing things like this.

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This is an interesting breach of the 2nd amendment. Big lines for applications etc...dont create a good "social distancing measure, but why not find a work around rather than infring a right out of hand?

Its an excuse to impose restrictions due to public health...perhaps creating precedent for the future in regards limiting 2nd amendment rights further through the use of a common health crisis.

Instead of suspending all CCW applications, they should do a sweeping approval on all of them.
After running the proper background checks of course.
But usually no one is applying for a CCW that hasn’t purchased a firearm legally.

originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Shamrock6

That's why the Sheriff and all the deputies are going unarmed, right?

a reply to: Shamrock6

The only thing that surprises me here as an NC resident, is that it's Wake and not Mecklenburg. Maybe they are more liberal in Raleigh than I thought.

originally posted by: RazorV66
Instead of suspending all CCW applications, they should do a sweeping approval on all of them.
After running the proper background checks of course.
But usually no one is applying for a CCW that hasn’t purchased a firearm legally.

Yes, if you are approved by the instant check, you should be able to carry concealed. I don't see the sense in someone telling you that you are approved to own a gun.... but you don't dare carry it.

Seems like North Carolina is a bit backwards in their thinking, you have to get a permit to buy the gun first, then pass the instant check.

originally posted by: RazorV66
But usually no one is applying for a CCW that hasn’t purchased a firearm legally.

This is for purchases as well, not just carry permits.

a reply to: Hypntick

From what I understand, Meck hasn’t seen quite the increase that Wake has.

Probably because Meck is a hellhole and people are trying to buy firearms all the time as it is, pandemic or not.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: RazorV66
But usually no one is applying for a CCW that hasn’t purchased a firearm legally.

This is for purchases as well, not just carry permits.

Yeah obviously you can’t do a sweeping approval on purchase permits.
But for someone that has already purchased a firearm legally looking to get a CCW, they should do it for them.

a reply to: Shamrock6

As a resident of Mecklenburg, I completely agree with you. This whole pandemic thing has put a pause on moving down to York and out of this place. Although I do see this headed in our direction sooner rather than later, if it isn't immediately struck down as unconstitutional.

a reply to: RazorV66

It’s a good idea, but the issue there is that a valid carry permit can be used as a purchase permit. The thinking behind that is that someone who’s been licensed to carry then wouldn’t need to apply for a purchase permit every time they want to buy a handgun.

originally posted by: Shamrock6
a reply to: RazorV66

It’s a good idea, but the issue there is that a valid carry permit can be used as a purchase permit. The thinking behind that is that someone who’s been licensed to carry then wouldn’t need to apply for a purchase permit every time they want to buy a handgun.

I agree with that, it should be that way.
I don’t know other states laws but here in Michigan, you only need to apply for a purchase permit to purchase a firearm from a private seller.
If you buy from a dealer with a FFL, it’s all done there.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Baker has been in over his head since jump street — unsurprising move.

Sheriff Baker Presser

Durham’s mayor just issued a stay-at-home order. We’ll see if the City of Oaks falls in line and issues an order...at least we finally got a pollen-busting rain last night.

That thin blue line will be who comes for your guns eventually.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Highly unlikely the NG is carrying weapons. Even during Katrina when SHTF we could only have 2 rounds. As for qualifying as you say every three years you have horrible information. They qualify annually and most are very good shots. Might be a few in a unit that don't have good scores. They take qualifying seriously. I have been in the NG in 4 different states over a few decades. They always took it seriously. As for the obesity, yes that is a concern but it has improved. Career is dead if one can't pass a weight and a PT test.