Some quick math makes the coronavirus look like a complete non-issue

a reply to: Zaphod58

 There's a huge difference between taking it seriously, and losing your damn mind

Agreed.

Any word on how many died from seasonal flu...seems they replaced one with the other..a reply to: KKLOCO

Another overly optimistic denial thread that will age very poorly.

originally posted by: Ohanka
Another overly optimistic denial thread that will age very poorly.

You know what is sad.

If our lockdowns and mitigation efforts succeed and we limit the deaths and permanent disabilities these people will say "see, it wasn't that bad".

originally posted by: Kakamega

You have done the wrong sum.

Try this sum:

3,407 as a percentage of 41,035

= 8.302668453758987 %.

I think your number is wrong too... It is 3,407 as a percentage of x = x%

a reply to: trollz

Learn some basic math!

When you divide the population by confirmed cases you get a decimal number. Next, you have to multiply that by 100 to get a real % to use.

That is why there is fear about this virus. The spreadable rate, R0, is how many others can be infected. If that rate is over 1 other person then you end up with the headline grabbing worst case scenario of 60 - 65% of the population being infected.

It probably won’t get that high but it could if nothing is done.

And remember, the rates are what we are told. A hurricane hit Florida and we were told several hundred people died. Fellow ATSers were saying whole streets were lined with body bags. They said that it was probably more like 2,000 people died.

So WHO do you believe? (see what I did there?)

Over 500 dead a day will impact any society and how they can cope with the corpses. That is because the numbers are tending to increase by more than half for the following days.

Notice how we are no longer told how many people have died per day per country??

That is where the numbers are being hidden.

If you are willing to sacrifice safety for liberty then you will get neither and you deserve nothing. Get back to work, take care of our sick and move forward one step at a time.

a reply to: trollz

the Math required is ALGEBRA (i.e. exponential growth) not elementary arithematic.

a reply to: trollz

We are in a shelter at home mode here in Illinois, but everybody is out on the streets doing what they normally do. I've been out all day and I have not seen one ambulance.

Those who stay at home and listen to the media would think that the world outside is crumbling around them.

But the good news is people are starting to figure out that there was a huge hoax constructed from a relatively minor epidemic.

When I explained to them what is happening, they are amazed... and then angry.

Just wait until the financial hardships caused by this massive hoax begin to be widely felt.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ketsuko

With a death rate twenty times higher than the flu.

And thats with medical attention. The death rate is a lot higher if you dont have ventilators.

a reply to: carewemust

But the good news is people are starting to figure out that there was a huge hoax constructed from a relatively minor epidemic.

its not minor. peeps are dying here. this is slow motion car crash

Non-issue? Tell that to Italy, Spain.

Here in the Netherlands they are moving COVID-19 patients to other locations already, as hospitals are being completely overwelmed. As more and more become infected, you'll see how serious this is. I think I might have it aswell as I'm having shortness of breath lately, as well as some other issues, but no ''flu'' type symptoms.

Also, saying a decease which is killing people by literally drowning in their own bodily fluids a ''non-issue'' is just cold hearted.

a reply to: carewemust

It's really amazing that they got the entire world in on hoaxing a minor epidemic.

originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

Notice how we are no longer told how many people have died per day per country??

That is where the numbers are being hidden.

Not Hidden

originally posted by: Zaphod58
There's a huge difference between taking it seriously, and losing your damn mind.

I really dont know if many can tell the difference right now?

We just dont have good numbers on this yet. Frankly, we probably wont for quite some time. The lack of test kits means only the most severe cases are tested. That does make sense, but it also impacts the mortality rate. So, its important to take that data onboard, but also understand its context. There is a lot like that right now. Us humans dont operate with large scales particularly well.

Ive seen more and more "not panicking, but totally panicking" and it seems like those of us who arent "not panicking, but totally panicking" are being labelled.. a problem.

Seems like the thing to do is totally panic, pretend Im not, then accuse anyone who acts/thinks differently of wanting people to die.

I think a lot of this is about managing public expectations as well as minimizing impact to our medical system. I feel that both are pretty critical.. Especially after so many years of things like media manipulation and internet platforms that thrive on fostering an addiction to extreme emotions.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Kakamega

You have done the wrong sum.

Try this sum:

3,407 as a percentage of 41,035

= 8.302668453758987 %.

I think your number is wrong too... It is 3,407 as a percentage of x = x%

The figures are correct. Do the sum for yourself:



www.calculator.net...

originally posted by: Kakamega


The figures are correct. Do the sum for yourself:

www.calculator.net...

I just did and I come up with x% again! Must be right.

originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: Ohanka
Another overly optimistic denial thread that will age very poorly.

You know what is sad.

If our lockdowns and mitigation efforts succeed and we limit the deaths and permanent disabilities these people will say "see, it wasn't that bad".

The worst part is if countries had taken action months ago when some here said things would never had gotten this bad.

Close travel with China, quarantine recent arrivals for 2 weeks. Job done.

But they didn’t do that. And now we have to live with the consequences of the greed and lethargy of the powers that be.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: trollz

We are in a shelter at home mode here in Illinois, but everybody is out on the streets doing what they normally do. I've been out all day and I have not seen one ambulance.

Those who stay at home and listen to the media would think that the world outside is crumbling around them.

But the good news is people are starting to figure out that there was a huge hoax constructed from a relatively minor epidemic.

When I explained to them what is happening, they are amazed... and then angry.

Just wait until the financial hardships caused by this massive hoax begin to be widely felt.

We went out again today, the visual of budding trees made hubs remember he was out of his Costco Clairitin and we needed to get him more pronto, lest he start his spring sneezing in public & trigger the triggered into a confrontation. Had to stand in line to get in Costco, but absolutely no one was sneezing, cough, or otherwise looking or acting sick. A LOT of them were gearing up to spend the day at stores or parks. And many of those were elderly, who, as one surly old man put it, are "getting real damn tired of waiting with baited breath for nothing to happen."

Give me a break, the predicted death totals have been goalpost moved every single week now and people are tired of being strung along. Even the elderly are calling BS now. Grandma and grandpa aren't likely to get mouthy about it, they're just going to thumb their nose at the government, whip a finger out, and go about their activities. Oh wait, they're already doing that here in West MI.

It was a damn nice day spent walking the trails at a park nearby. And it was full of people of all ages wanting to get out & do something other than sit at home and wring their hands, be it doing something like speed-walking in a group, walking their dogs or coordinating an unofficial softball game with the kids' teammates. And NOBODY bothered scolding anyone for passing too close to each other, or the parents for letting kids on the playground equipment.

The fact the city didn't get called in to so much as close down the playground in the over 2 hours we were there shows a pretty unified mindset setting up here -- people are going back out, and screw off it you don't like it is what that mindset is.