Looks like the Corona Virus absolutely came from that lab in Wuhan.

originally posted by: zatara
Don't know if its true but someone said that pedo epstein sposored (bio)chemical labs and specificly a scientist researching virussus....in a lab at wuhan. Thats crazy...a farewell/ middle finger present from epstein maybe?

Well, it's said the virus is less effective on kids.

A world in which the only survivors are the kids and the Epstien club.

Don't see the connection (sarcasm)

a reply to: Cobaltic1978
Siberia borders china. Do you realize how few people live there? The virus is not likely to transmit that way.

Another detail to challenge the Wuhan Lab story, although I don't think it's far fetched...

Back in febuary, Chinese doctors were leaking their opinion that they found two strains of Covid-19... people, especially the west brushed this off the same way everyone thought it would never be serious in Europe.

Well lo and behold, yesterday nordic doctors relayed the same message.

That we have found 2 strains. One that it very infectious and one that is slow to infect others...

In regard to this thread; what happened then? The lowly infectious got out or was released, and then it mutated rather fast into the more infectious version, or what happened?

a reply to: Irishhaf A Freakin Men. Let me off this ride. Lost my grandfather 3 weeks ago, luckily we were allowed a funeral 6 days later, then went into 'lockdown'. I need some time to live a normal life. I'm lucky that I can do my work at home and work for a quasi government like entity that supports states in the us and the insurance industry. I likely won't be downsized. When I get my 'bailout' money I'm taking out what the tax will be at the end of the year, setting it aside and giving it to the most affected person in my life. So far that's my bartender brother. We'll see who it is in 3 weeks.

I don’t know, this guy does a pretty good job discussing the virus.

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Me bad...after reading some of the threads and many comments on ATS, I thought Trump was responsible for the coronavirus.

ive reported you for having a photo of a decapitated head and nothing was done, and I WAS WARNED!
is something wrong with the world?

why is Russia so silent?


what if they want to turn China and the US against each other


this isn't normal guys. I don't trust Putin

is it possible to create an intelligent virus that only kills old people (99% of the deaths are elderly people) ?

it seems this sonovabitch is sentient or something.

just announced 286 dead in the UK now
a 44 person increase in the last day
and over 5000 infected
the numbers are jumping big time

If it came from a lab, it's a natural virus. Scientists have already sequenced the damned thing. There are 'tells' in the DNA if it has been altered. Read for yourself.


Press Release about the work:

www.eurekalert.org...


The scientific paper, which is free to read by anyone:

www.nature.com...

No bioweapon, folks. Just something nasty. Whether it was from some eating something stupid or from a lab, either way, its alllllll natural.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Anybody with half a brain suspected this from the beginning, but Listverse has an excellent article about...

Top 10 Reasons To Believe the Wuhan Virology Lab Caused 2019-nCoV

What tipped me off is how the Chinese government seemed desperate to blame pretty much anything & everybody except this lab. The virus came from a seafood market... or was it pangolins? No, it came from Canada. Actually, it came from the US. No wait...

Check this out.

Difference in Receptor Usage between Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus and SARS-Like Coronavirus of Bat Origin

Great post also by the way. I am reading through the points, first one seems pretty concrete as it stands on its own and thats number 10.

originally posted by: gosseyn
Yeah, the US would never do something like that, they are too humane, and altruist, they care too much for human life.


Give this post a star if you don't believe the above statement.

No one said the U.S. wouldn't/couldn't.

I have no idea if whether or not it did come from a lab in China, but even if someone speculated that it did, that has nothing to do with whether not the U.S. (or almost any "power" country, for that matter) would engage in biological research, whether as a weapon or to learn how to counter such a weapon.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Anybody with half a brain suspected this from the beginning, but Listverse has an excellent article about...

Top 10 Reasons To Believe the Wuhan Virology Lab Caused 2019-nCoV

What tipped me off is how the Chinese government seemed desperate to blame pretty much anything & everybody except this lab. The virus came from a seafood market... or was it pangolins? No, it came from Canada. Actually, it came from the US. No wait...

My problem with this theory is a simple one. Whatever anyone thinks about the Chinese, i personally don't think they're stupid enough to # on their own doorstep. I don't buy it

Does it occur to people that the China Communist Government Party......could have deliberately put this virus out in the world because of the deficit trade deals....This part of China does not care about human life whatsoever and view humans as organisms..I think we should try to gather all world governments after this virus is over and stop trade with China.Even if they did not do this virus on purpose China still needs to to hear everyone's voices loud and clear,we are no longer gonna tolerate this from them and try to get as many nations as we can to block all trade with them...We can make and trade better products than they ever can.....

originally posted by: Jobeycool
Does it occur to people that the China Communist Government Party......could have deliberately put this virus out in the world because of the deficit trade deals....

That didn't occur to me, but I don't think the CCP would make such an absurd move. The economy is suffering greatly because of this virus...

I think we should try to gather all world governments after this virus is over and stop trade with China.

Now that's just a bad idea. Really sit down and think about what this would mean, financially/economically...

Even if they did not do this virus on purpose China still needs to to hear everyone's voices loud and clear,we are no longer gonna tolerate this from them and try to get as many nations as we can to block all trade with them...We can make and trade better products than they ever can.....

There's nothing beyond speculation that this virus was "released" (assuming that by "released" you mean that it somehow escaped a lab, etc).

Secondly, even if we could make and trade better products, that would come at a much higher cost, which is something that should be avoided, from a business standpoint. The idea of any business is to maximize its profits.

Thirdly, say what you will, but China has done an extraordinary job at getting a handle on this virus... much better than I can say for Italy/USA.

a reply to: logicsoda
It would have to be done if China does not clean those wet markets up or the animals markets up....Obviously this would take many many years by a lot of nations backing it up after some kind of plan was put in place to 100% fix trading with other countries.
I know this would be a heavy task,but we got to get off of Chinas cheap crap...They make their own workers slaves.Russia does not behave like this anymore.

I asked that very question to my microbiologist sister and she says if it was a bio weapon man made you can spot the man made tools in the organism. Covid-19 is not a bio weapon it is a novel corona virus. Sorry

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: 3n19m470
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Now we know why the government is "going overboard" with the response.

They HAVE TO.

Whether by design, or by accident, A CHINESE *WEAPON* IS TAKING AMERICAN LIVES.

It is obvious to anyone who is paying attention.

The response is way too over the top. The public isn't being told everything.

originally posted by: Killeonidas
I asked that very question to my microbiologist sister and she says if it was a bio weapon man made you can spot the man made tools in the organism. Covid-19 is not a bio weapon it is a novel corona virus. Sorry

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

That is where the media is being deceptive. A bio-weapon, doesn't HAVE to mean it was made. It could have been identified by them and housed and perhaps, they developed a payload etc. Recall this (see link) from 2004

www.the-scientist.com...

The latest outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in China, with eight confirmed or suspected cases so far and hundreds quarantined, involves two researchers who were working with the virus in a Beijing research lab, the World Health Organization (WHO) said on Monday (April 26).

There are a few very suspicious things with this Covid 19 thing. The first, is why didn't this virus spread like wildfire throughout the rest of China? Sure, they cut off WUHAN, but that was months later. Nations, have been overrun by this virus, by travellers from Wuhan. Its gone global. Its been hard enough to contain, while knowing that the virus is making its presence known. Yet......Yet......we are to believe, China, while totally blind for a number of months didn't this virus spread from WUHAN to other parts of China in large numbers?

The other issue is the much lower death rate in the rest of CHINA compared with WUHAN.