The WORLD Needs To Sue CHINA

The BLAME for the Covid-19 Global Pandemic falls DIRECTLY on the Chinese Government.

-China started it.

-The Chinese government hid it, not only from it's own citizens, but from the rest of the world.

-The Chinese government KNOWINGLY allowed millions of potentially-infected Chinese citizens to travel around the world BEFORE they told the world of the epidemic they could no longer hide.

-The vast amount of economic damage and loss of life suffered by the countries of the world...are the direct result of the Chinese government's attempted coverup.

This is China's Chernobyl x 1000!

After Chernobyl, affected countries sued the Soviet Union for damages resulting from the communist Soviet government's negligence and coverup...and this global pandemic is no different.

Thousands of citizens from countries all over the world are now dead and dying because of China's irresponsible coverup.

China's negligence and secrecy has all but destroyed the economies of the world's nations.

The US, alone, may have to spend TRILLIONS to dig itself out of this mess China caused.


China must be sued in the world courts for it's negligence and it's despicable attempt to hide it's epidemic from the rest of the world...while intentionally allowing it to spread worldwide.

Otherwise...What's to stop a repeat next year with another new Chinese virus and the Chinese government's ensuing attempted coverup?

a reply to: IAMTAT

But i think like all of us owe China like a bunch of money.

Maybe just call it even?

originally posted by: solve
a reply to: IAMTAT

But i think like all of us owe China like a bunch of money.

Maybe just call it even?

EXACTLY!

You do realize that diseases are natural. Acts of God. Right?

Chernobyl is not even a remote analog. World of difference between "We made a crap reactor and didn't take things seriously" and "A disease first appeared in nation X".

Just out of curiosity, if a pandemic were to start in New Mexico or Arizona, both places with known zoonotics, would you be saying the same?

originally posted by: Hefficide



Just out of curiosity, if a pandemic were to start in New Mexico or Arizona, both places with known zoonotics, would you be saying the same?

...AND if we tried to cover it up from the rest of the world and knowingly allowed it to spread unchecked worldwide...
WE would be responsible.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Then ya might wanna google Spanish Influenza.

originally posted by: Hefficide

You do realize that diseases are natural. Acts of God. Right?

Chernobyl is not even a remote analog. World of difference between "We made a crap reactor and didn't take things seriously" and "A disease first appeared in nation X".

Just out of curiosity, if a pandemic were to start in New Mexico or Arizona, both places with known zoonotics, would you be saying the same?

Heff, I usually see eye to eye with you. Been here a long time.

This was no act of God. This was negligence and humans toying with diseases that would otherwise not cause the pandemic we're seeing now. We do it too, sure. But if someone at the CDC had an infected animal bite them, they wouldn't be sent home to self-quarantine. In another thread, I posted this:

Scientists at South China University of Technology in Guangzhou believe the lab could be a possible origin of the deadly pandemic.

The facility is located 300 yards from the infamous Wuhan food market where the Chinese government claimed the outbreak – which has killed over 1,500 people - started in December.

Written by Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao, the research journal claimed WCDC “hosted animals in laboratories for research purposes”, including 605 bats captured in nearby provinces.

The paper, titled ‘The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus’, reports that one researcher named only as JH Tian “was once attacked by bats” and that “the blood of bat was on his skin.”

According to the journal, Tian isolated himself for 28 days after the “bats peed on him.”

Where is the protocol for a lab working with deadly diseases? If bats and humans have been around for millenia, why has this never happened before?

The fallout is natural. The spread is natural. The diseases ability to exist is natural. The way this happened does not appear to be natural. Since everything can be considered an Act of God, I suppose you could say that's true, but I think my point is that this happened out of negligence. I want to know why the panic button didn't go off in the same ways it would in any other country. Why of all of the other countries that have these types of labs, have we never seen anything like this?

It just doesn't add up.

~Namaste

a reply to: IAMTAT

If someone can prove (and I mean, PROVE), that China created the virus in their lab and either on purpose, or negligently let it out, then I believe they should be ordered to cease and desist all infectious disease research above level 2, under penalty of nuclear annihilation.

I don't think it will ever be known with 100% certainty where it came from, even though it seems the most likely source is the Wuhan lab.

Anything less than an ABSOLUTE 100% containment success in a level 4 lab, means you aren't capable of operating a level 4 lab.

The blame game just may push the world to the brink of war if it keeps up.

a reply to: IAMTAT
What court has jurisdiction?

a reply to: Hefficide

Diseases are natural but so are humans
and humans induced chernobyl

Take that! Haha, j/k.

But no, I'm actually on your side for this one, comparing C19 to chernobyl is like comparing H1N1 to WWII.
It's not like China had a choice as to whether or not to release this disease unto the world.

When it first came out I was more on the conspiracy tribe side thinking it was a political weapon, and I'm not entirely closed off to that fact because natural origins or not, it IS being used as one. But I've changed my stance over time and the facts seem to point out that the only thing Chinese about this disease is the fact that it came from China. I do not believe that China deliberately engineered it.

Change my mind--it's not entirely made up.

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: IAMTAT
What court has jurisdiction?

World Court, Hague...International Court of Justice, International Criminal Court.

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones

a reply to: Hefficide

this disease was not necessarily an act of god but more so around China's lack of regulation in the wet markets that sold exotic meats to their people. After the first sars China ratcheted down on these markets...due to the outcry of the rich who purchased the goods they buckled and resumed selling the meat. So what you have is animals living in cages for extended periods of time with diseased animals...sanitary expectations where knowingly not enforced. The actual virus just like a drivers license can be directly tracked backed to china. China because of the rule that if it moves it's fair game is precisely why we are in this horror show. So I would agree that it's a natural disease as much as ebola is a natural disease. The difference China is directly responsible for creating this mess so they should absolutely be on the hook. If they do continue to eat exotic meats it's up to them to ensure that the sanitary conditions are strictly enforced...I would expect the same of any country.

a reply to: IAMTAT
But do they have effective enforceable jurisdiction? I think not. When China says "Get lost!", what are they going to do? Declare war, or unfollow them on Twitter?

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: IAMTAT
But do they have effective enforceable jurisdiction? I think not. When China says "Get lost!", what are they going to do? Declare war, or unfollow them on Twitter?

If China refuses to accept responsibility by going to court...countries should subtract their total accumulated Covid-19 expenditures and national financial loss from any debt they've previously owed China.

a reply to: DISRAELI

The world could, as said above, simply call it even. If the entire world tells China, none of us owe you #, our debt to you is wiped clean. What exactly can the Chinese do about it?

a reply to: IAMTAT

I was waiting for one of these threads to come leaking into ATS ...

originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: IAMTAT
But do they have effective enforceable jurisdiction? I think not. When China says "Get lost!", what are they going to do? Declare war, or unfollow them on Twitter?

If China refuses to accept responsibility by going to court...countries should subtract their total accumulated Covid-19 expenditures and national financial loss from any debt they've previously owed China.

The US already said we wouldn't answer to Hague, I don't see why they would.

a reply to: strongfp

It's an interesting idea. Not likely to happen, but interesting.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: IAMTAT

I was waiting for one of these threads to come leaking into ATS ...

I haven't seen other threads on this...but I won't assume you haven't.