Stimulus check 2020, should the disabled get it

originally posted by: wyrmboy12
I guess I’m confused and I’m really bAd at math but isn’t 300,000,000 x 1000 about 25 trillion dollars?

How is doubling the national debt in one month to give people not even one months respite a solution? Seems cheaper to just forgive all current tax refunds for 2020 might be better to me. Did I fudge that math?

Yeah, you are bad at math lol no offense.

300,000,000 x 1000 is you just add 3 more zeroes to your original number, giving you 300,000,000,000. That's 300 BILLION, not 300 TRILLION. Also, it's not going to go out to everyone in the country. On the other hand, they're talking about making it $2000 now instead of $1000, so double the price tag.

In the grand scheme of things, where we owe $23 trillion already, I'm fine with another $0.6 trillion in a crisis. But there will definitely be a lot of waste. There are plenty of people who don't need the money, then there are folks who live in places with sky-high cost of living where $2000 is not worth near as much as it is in places like where I live. So it's a very imperfect solution.

originally posted by: toolgal462
If they think that the "govt" ie. the tax payer should be providing everything to everyone then yah....they shoulud.

You going to apply the same logic to Trump? He's talking about giving everyone a check, pretty sure it's not coming from his own virtue signaling fortune.

If the US house needs to sign off on the expenditures, we could be in trouble. Nancy Pelosi has directed members to stay away from Washington DC beyond the March 23rd vacation return date.

for months upon months, this disabled/retired, fixed income veteran has squirrled away a pantry full of
'lockdown' type menu items.. Including probably 2 years of TP based on past usage

Fairness aside

I think its just peachy for the overpaid workers to continue getting Stimulus money so they can continue buying $1k I-Phones, $500 sneakers, pay $200 cable TV with all the $ content from 10 vendors...
I will muddle with my flip phone @ $22 month, watch OTA TV's 9 channels for the cost of a $14 HDTV antenna, skim by with 3MB starter internet @ $14.99 plus $9.oo Netflix streaming movies

I have failed to receive any of the Stimulus Monies that were passed out in the last 23 years... this time should be No Different than before... no Obama phone either because our frazzled RX gulping family member (now middle-age freeloader) got then lost the only Obama-phone allowed at this address...

the USA lockdown does not bother me in any case... I can't afford NFL or ESPN Sports other than what is on community OTA... but the government will subsidize the pharmacies/food processors/cable sports industry/and the rainbow of communications-entertainment sources that some 90% buy & leave on stand-by ? keeping the merry-go-round spinning

a reply to: face23785

My god, our schools have F'd us. We are doomed. lol.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: toolgal462
If they think that the "govt" ie. the tax payer should be providing everything to everyone then yah....they shoulud.

You going to apply the same logic to Trump? He's talking about giving everyone a check, pretty sure it's not coming from his own virtue signaling fortune.

Yep, him too. From what I know, he already donates his salary. But he also aint always espousing that socialist crapola.

a reply to: dawnstar

how i am gonna get my car inspected before my son needs it when his job starts back up.

He'll be working; you're not. Let him pay for it.

I have to point out that in Alabama we don't have that kind of burden in the first place. We're not big on taxing everything in sight.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: face23785

My god, our schools have F'd us. We are doomed. lol.

I had the same thought. It's not like it was a complex problem.

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: toolgal462

In the first place, please be safe during this time and protect those closest to you.

In the second place, this virus isn't helping the average person's economic literacy at all. Not that our schools, our media or our politicians help.

But seriously. Stay safe!

I can do the math if I had to, but others here are going to do it for me. yeah, that's lazy. But I aint so lazy that I haven't prepared for this Wuflu. I've thought of myself and my neighbors and their pets too.

Long term, I'm getting a headache thinking about though.

But, in reality I was only trying to make a point with all the "celebs could pony up" stuff. I think maybe it wasn't obvious to everyone that I was doing that?

a reply to: toolgal462

Maybe not? Look, it's fine. I mean, you aren't wrong. The virtue scolds in the celebritard industry really do need to put their money into something else besides wine and mansions.

The problem is that we have no mechanism beyond shame to compel groups of people to help more than they talk and celebritards are -- by definition -- beyond shame.

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
a reply to: toolgal462

Maybe not? Look, it's fine. I mean, you aren't wrong. The virtue scolds in the celebritard industry really do need to put their money into something else besides wine and mansions.

The problem is that we have no mechanism beyond shame to compel groups of people to help more than they talk and celebritards are -- by definition -- beyond shame.

Exactly, and we should be bombarding them with "tweets" reminding them what giant, entitled, elitist, do nothing, hypocrites they truly are.

I am NOT for socialism but I am NOT against social programs. They are different things. We should be able to provide some social programs without going full socialist.

And, the amount of money that celebs and athletes get for their "jobs" has always struck me as just plain stupid. and makes me wonder about the collective intelligence of the world that we give them ridiculous amounts of money. But hey, that's the free market I guess.

A LOT of things come into my mind at times like this.

Don't know who mentioned this, but I'm good with making it to every family in the country instead of every person. I have two addresses, so two households... two families. That's what the US Census says, anyway.



(Point is, no matter what metric is used, someone will game the system. Just for those who did't get that.)

TheRedneck

Why don't we pay out to the people based on the ratio of how much you pay in to the system? Feel free to call me racist or anti poor if you'd like. I'm not rich, but how about we not give those who get all their money from the tax payers more of our hard earned money this time around!

Py

a reply to: toolgal462

I thought I heard everyone over eighteen.
Dont quote me.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yous dont have to get your cars inspected??
It wouldnt be such a big deal for me but it's an older car and they always find some big money thing that needs to be done before it passes.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: toolgal462

I thought I heard everyone over eighteen.
Dont quote me.

That is pretty much what I thought as well. Single person households like myself get hosed I guess.

But it's worth it to not have to share my space.

a reply to: toolgal462

I am NOT for socialism but I am NOT against social programs. They are different things. We should be able to provide some social programs without going full socialist.

100% agreed. One does not compel the other.

And, the amount of money that celebs and athletes get for their "jobs" has always struck me as just plain stupid. and makes me wonder about the collective intelligence of the world that we give them ridiculous amounts of money.

You answered your own question. A football player who has a million fans and makes a million dollars a year is only costing their fans $1 a piece. A pittance. A movie star that 10 million people wants to see can make $10 million on a movie and only raise the ticket price by $1.

It's called "economics of scale."

TheRedneck

Up to $2,000 per adult.

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originally posted by: carewemust
Up to $2,000 per adult.

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Better, that is something we can all work with!

a reply to: dawnstar

Yous dont have to get your cars inspected??

Nope, not unless we want to pay a mechanic for it.

There is a law against "spraying for 'skeeters" (puffing out a visible cloud of smoke from the exhaust that causes birds to drop dead in mid-flight), but it's not enforced much. Oil got too expensive to burn like that.

TheRedneck