Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine May Be a Covid-19 Killer

a reply to: XL5

As far as I know tonic water is safe (bitter though).

That's why they invented gin. With lime, it's a cure for scurvy and malaria.

Put a little splenda and lime in tonic water and its not bad i have been drinking it for years for leg cramps.

By the way, The local stores were OUT of bottled water but had plenty of tonic water.

a reply to: XL5

I was wondering the same thing as well. Quinine was the original treatment for malaria and is related to chloroquine. So would it at least be somewhat effective?

If so, time to start upping my gin & tonic consumption.

I wonder if tonic water did work wonders, would the govt. ever let it be known. I have a 2L bottle just in case people start hording it in 50 gallon drums!

I have a stash of Cinchona bark for tea. It's where quinine comes from. If I'm on deaths door I'll make myself some with lots of honey(I keep lots of different kinds.) At that point I figure side effects won't matter too much.

Although, it's been used throughout history as a tea for malaria supposedly with little side effects.

Excellent news. I've been on Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) for years. I'm way ahead of the curve.

a reply to: muzzleflash

Arent those long term side effects isnt the treatment fo Covid-19 going to a short month or 2?

Has any got a twitter account to ask on real Donald trump are they using it America???

Suppose if it gets front and center people might start saying what the insurance companies are telling hospitals to use for the most profit.

has anyone seen anything in Official Western countries about using or not using this approach?

Further evidence that these drugs are effective in combating the coronavirus...

From France:

A renowned research professor in France has reported successful results from a new treatment for Covid-19, with early tests suggesting it can stop the virus from being contagious in just six days.

Professor Raoult is an infectious diseases specialist and head of the IHU Méditerranée Infection, who has been tasked by - and consulted by - the French government to research possible treatments of Covid-19.

He said that the first Covid-19 patients he had treated with the drug chloroquine had seen a rapid and effective speeding up of their healing process, and a sharp decrease in the amount of time they remained contagious.

From the U.S.:

A new academic study, published on Friday March 13 by US scientific researchers, also said that chloroquine appeared to be an effective treatment, and appears to align with the findings in France.

It said: “Use of chloroquine (tablets) is showing favorable outcomes in humans infected with Coronavirus including faster time to recovery and shorter hospital stay…

“Research shows that chloroquine also has strong potential as a prophylactic (preventative) measure against coronavirus in the lab, while we wait for a vaccine to be developed.

“Chloroquine is an inexpensive, globally available drug that has been in widespread human use since 1945 against malaria, autoimmune and various other conditions…[it] can be prescribed to adults and children of all ages.

Kill Covid Now

So...let's get on with it, shall we? Cheap...readily available...in use since 1945, with known side-effects...demonstrated efficacy against COVID-19. At the very least, should be administered under the "Right to Try" law, for seriously ill patients.

Like I said I been on it for years with no issues or side effects. wonder if its going to cost me more now?

a reply to: mobiusmale

April 16, 2020

A sure indication that Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc treatment of Covid-19 WORKS GREAT, can be found by Googling the drug, and seeing what News Outlets are at the top of the Google results.

1.) CNN - www.cnn.com...

2.) Bloomberg - www.bloomberg.com...

3.) FoxNews - www.foxnews.com...

The ABOVE THREE are digging up studies in order to make people think that Hydroxychloroquine is pretty much useless. Most of the Mainstream Media articles are strongly against this inexpensive, yet effective medication!

But, when you look at real people reporting their experiences in local media outlets, blogs, forums, and other social media platforms, you realize that the drug is pretty darn amazing!

Once you get past the 20 or so Anti-Hydroxychloroquine results that Google intentionally stacks at the top of the search results, you begin entering the realm of REALITY...with story, after story, after story, like this one:

I'm Recovering Nicely..Finally!: mtstandard.com...

It's also curious that celebrities, politicians, and other VIPs who recover from Covid-19 in record time, never mention what drug/drugs were administered.

The most recent is U.K. Prime Minister BORIS JOHNSON. He was in ICU this past Thursday...and by Saturday, walked out of the Hospital, and shot a "Thank-you" video for the hospital staff. As of this writing, I still can't find what type of drug is responsible for Mr. Boris Johnson's miraculous recovery.

Does anyone know?

edit on 4/16/2020 by carewemust because: (no reason given)

IMPORTANT U.S. Hydroxychloroquine Development:

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday cited "extreme urgency" in clearing U.S. pharmaceutical distributors from legal hurdles in order to provide the anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine to coronavirus patients.

The Justice Department penned a response letter Monday notifying one of the country's largest wholesale drug distribution companies, AmerisourceBergen, that antitrust hurdles have been removed as part of an "expedited, temporary review procedure."

The DOJ letter dated April 20th, says the drug corporation is now set to work with federal government agencies and health care providers to distribute hydroxychloroquine to patients with coronavirus symptoms.

The anti-malaria drug has been controversially touted by President Donald Trump as a "treatment" for COVID-19, the illness caused by the novel coronavirus, despite reports from organizations including the American Heart Association that the medication exacerbates fatal heart problems and has not faced U.S. clinical trials.

But the Monday DOJ letter indicates the drug's distribution is now being fast-tracked and allows AmerisourceBergen, which was sued in 2017 for allegedly worsening the opioid drug crisis, to temporarily "act as the U.S. Government's hydroxychloroquine distribution agents" without legal concern over antitrust violations as they address supply chain shortages.

"One initiative is the distribution of hydroxychloroquine from the Stockpile to health care providers in areas of greatest need," reads the Justice Department letter from Assistant Attorney General Makan Delrahim. "In this distribution initiative, AmerisourceBergen and other distributors act as the U.S. Government's distribution agents. The U.S. Government will instruct AmerisourceBergen on the amount of hydroxychloroquine it will receive and where the hydroxychloroquine is to be sent."

More at: www.newsweek.com...

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NIH recommends against using hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin to treat coronavirus

a reply to: Grimpachi

Strange that they tried the High-Dose Chloroquine on it's own.

Even I read the High-Dose Chloroquine does nothing but open the door for zinc or other drug to get into the cell reproducing the RNA.

The 88+ years of Chloroquine use already noted it is not a wonder drug for everyone - certain types of people should not be given the drug as it kills them.

Why does every report have TRUMP touted when something fails, it when ALL he did was mentioned it appears to be successful.

Which was based on early reports out of China France and New York. Really does seem to be make it fail Orange Man Bad.

As far as I know reading a newspaper and seeing

Dr. William Grace told Ingraham that they have 100 patients and have had zero deaths after the use of Hydroxychloroquine.

Hydroxychloroquine is the less toxic version of Chloroquine.

Grace said that a big reason older people die from the coronavirus is that their lungs fill up with fluid as part of an immune response to the virus. Hydroxychloroquine works, Grace notes, in both inhibiting the immune response and inhibiting the replication of the virus.

and concluding there's hope of a treatment doesn't mean give it to everyone.

Just report trails of treatment protocol X is not working.

Christ if I knew which fruit the bats ate to make the virus useless in them I'd be eating it too.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo met with President Trump in the white house yesterday.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) says that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective."

twitter.com...

How about this published treatment:

An “Islamic medicine specialist” from Iran urged Iranians to drink camel urine, claiming it can cure several diseases including coronavirus

originally posted by: carewemust
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo met with President Trump in the white house yesterday.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) says that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective."

twitter.com...

Did you not realize your twitter source references are from 3 weeks ago.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
Coronavirus: Chloroquine study in Brazil aborted after deaths

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study

Antimalarials widely used against COVID-19 heighten risk of cardiac arrest. How can doctors minimize the danger?

Study of High-Dose Chloroquine For COVID-19 Stopped Early Due to Patient Deaths

Study finds no benefit, higher death rate in patients taking hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19

NIH Panel Recommends Against Drug Combination Promoted By Trump For COVID-19

NIH recommends against using hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin to treat coronavirus

you have to look at the small print in these failed studies.

when was hydroxychloroquine given. some doctors gave hydroxychloroquine only when the person went on a resperator and by then it was to late.

dose rate should be 13 mg/kg (10 mg/kg base), not to exceed 800 mg (620 mg base) followed by 6.5 mg/kg (5 mg/kg base), not to exceed 400 mg (310 mg base), at 6 hours, 24 hours and 48 hours after the initial dose.

some doctors did not follow proper doseing.


some studies were giving the dose for a 80 pound person to a 300+ pound person and it did not work.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

originally posted by: carewemust
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo met with President Trump in the white house yesterday.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) says that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective."

twitter.com...

Did you not realize your twitter source references are from 3 weeks ago.

President Trump and Gov Cuomo met 2 days ago (Tues 4.21.2020) at the White House.

a reply to: carewemust

This part of your post that you got from twitter

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) says that early responses to the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine "anecdotally" suggest its use in the coronavirus fight has been "effective."

Is from this article

Cuomo: Use of antimalarial drug in New York hospitals 'anecdotally' positive

The article is dated 04/06/20

It is great they had a meeting on the 21. Big woop.

The Food and Drug Administration strongly warned Friday against using hydroxychloroquine or a related compound, chloroquine, for treating or preventing COVID-19 without strict medical supervision in a hospital or as part of a clinical trial. The agency said its officials have not approved the anti-malaria drugs for that purpose — and that without close monitoring for side effects, they may lead to life-threatening complications.

Source

It doesn't work. There's not enough data to support it being an effective treatment. The president doesn't know what he's taking about. The biggest source of 'fake news' in the world, right now, is the daily briefing.