More Than Half Of Dutch Coronavirus ICU Patients Are Under 50

Appears the virus is impacting younger people. Some as young as 16. Surprisingly, a lot of people under 50. I have seen many 20 and 30 somethings posting on boards stating they have nothing to worry about. That may not be true and everyone should take precautions.

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Google Translate:

40 to 50 Dutch corona patients in intensive care units: "More than half are under fifty." Today, between forty and fifty corona patients are in critical condition on Dutch intensive care units. “More than half of those patients are under fifty years old. It also includes young people. "That says chairman of the Dutch Association for Intensive Care (NVIC) Diederik Gommers, in an interview with this site.

A 16-year-old boy from Breda is infected with the coronavirus and is currently in the intensive care unit of the Erasmus MC-Sophia Children's Hospital. His family calls on the whole of the Netherlands: "Wake up and take this virus seriously.

Dutch doctors have also been informed about patients from Lombardy, Italy, who confirm data that coronavirus is also affected by young and relatively healthy people. ,, The youngest intubated Covid-19 patient is a girl of 16 years old.

Two children with Covid-19 were admitted to the pediatric IC for observation but did not require additional therapy, "the information circulated among Dutch physicians states. The first patient to be ventilated in that Italian region was ventilated for eighteen days, while he was relatively healthy. "It concerned a 38-year-old, otherwise very healthy man, who ran marathons for this.

a reply to: infolurker

So what you are saying is that people who have severe reactions to the disease are in the hospital?

What about those who are not suffering severe reactions? Where are they? What are their numbers?

Can we stop pushing fear yet? Or should we all just go buy TP and board ourselves up in our houses to survive?

a reply to: Isurrender73

Many of you need to get your heads out of the sand and actually look what is happening in Europe because that is coming here. They are just a few weeks ahead of us.


www.newsweek.com...

YOUNG AND UNAFRAID OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC? GOOD FOR YOU. NOW STOP KILLING PEOPLE

But why the urgency, if most people survive?

Here's why: Fatality is the wrong yardstick. Catching the virus can mess up your life in many, many more ways than just straight-up killing you. "We are all young"—okay. "Even if we get the bug, we will survive"—fantastic. How about needing four months of physical therapy before you even feel human again. Or getting scar tissue in your lungs and having your activity level restricted for the rest of your life. Not to mention having every chance of catching another bug in hospital, while you're being treated or waiting to get checked with an immune system distracted even by the false alarm of an ordinary flu. No travel for leisure or business is worth this risk.

Now, odds are, you might catch coronavirus and might not even get symptoms. Great. Good for you. Very bad for everyone else, from your own grandparents to the random older person who got on the subway train a stop or two after you got off. You're fine, you're barely even sneezing or coughing, but you're walking around and you kill a couple of old ladies without even knowing it. Is that fair? You tell me.

My personal as well as professional view: we all have a duty to stay put, except for very special reasons, like, you go to work because you work in healthcare, or you have to save a life and bring someone to hospital, or go out to shop for food so you can survive. But when we get to this stage of a pandemic, it's really important not to spread the bug.

a reply to: infolurker

I have to work and pay bills. If someone wants to protect themselves they can stay away from my business. I could care less if I get sick and die.

I believe in God and heaven and already have my name written in the good book. So no worries here.

You think I should suffer to protect you? No thank you. Unless you want to send me some money. I can PM you my bank info.

All of those who want to be afraid can stay home the rest of have lives that don’t just stop because you think it’s good for you

You want a different world then figure out how to change it. I have to live in reality.

a reply to: Isurrender73

If the facts are translated to you as fear it may be you who translate the facts as fear, not the facts.

If you wanna feel better, look at South Korea, corona, facts.

originally posted by: Bicent
a reply to: Isurrender73

If the facts are translated to you as fear it may be you who translate the facts as fear, not the facts.

If you wanna feel better, look at South Korea, corona, facts.

Yeah, South Korea proactively tests, has results in 24 hours and starts antiviral treatments. Most citizens wear masks to mitigate the spread and are not coughing all over everything.

Here, you are not getting tested fast, results take days, by the time you are diagnosed you are days in with unchecked viral replication. Are US doctors handing out antivirals? I do not know but I highly doubt they are unless you are admitted into the ICU and then it may already be too late.

Big differences. Look to Europe to see how it will play out here.

a reply to: infolurker
The Dutch monarchs attend bilderberg nearly every year, so yes their media/intelligence is also going to push the same fear because they are ordered to by the same group of people as the rest of Europe, whos leaders also attend annual bilderberg meetings where they discuss how they will terrorize the world and plunder it's resources equally every year.
There are a dozen other illnesses that cause scar tissue. Hell I have had a collapsed lung, and still fight off the occasional severe upper respiratory disorder every other year.

I thought you were better than this.

This sounds like the King was ordered to come up with a story for cover story-19 to keep the fear momentum going as it is already starting to wane publicly.

The WHO answers to the agenda 21 UN.

We all finally saw that impeachment and Russian collusion were clear hoaxes. Now TPTB , fearing they have lost the ability to manipulate the public through their obviously aligned media push out the next Y2K fear story, and everyone eats it up like candy.

Thank goodness the USA put travel bans in effect early. Every Covid-19 horror and doomsday story from (you name it), makes President Trump's travel restriction actions look all the more prudent.

a reply to: infolurker

~yawn~

For far in the US, of those tested for the Corona virus 98% came back negative.

More testing will probably make that number greater.

Of those tested positive, if they didn't have underlying medical conditions or were elderly they were sent home with cough medicine to self-quarantine.

So you can get your panties tied up in as many knots as you want to.

For the rest of us, we will worry about more important things.

Fun fact... more people have died by bullet in Chicago so far this year than have died of your apocalyptic virus in the US.

originally posted by: carewemust
Thank goodness the USA put travel bans in effect early. Every Covid-19 horror and doomsday story from (you name it), makes President Trump's travel restriction actions look all the more prudent.

Hell yes they were prudent. I wish he would have been able to proactively halt travel to all of the hot-spots sooner. I get that he had to keep the population calm but this "no worse that the flu" crap really sucked in a lot of people.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

And the French icu cases? Is there also some new world order conspiracy associated with that? Opinions now are better than facts?

Meh I get it, I am begining to understand now how all the great thinkers got ridiculed and persecuted in history, Galileo, Magellan lol the world is not flat, to hell with your facts. Preposterous thinking, didn’t your ancestors try to kill Copernicus?

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: infolurker


I believe in God and heaven and already have my name written in the good book. So no worries here.

You think I should suffer to protect you? No thank you. Unless you want to send me some money. I can PM you my bank info.

“Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13)


You might want to read the “fine print” in that Good Book you claimed to be written into.


You might find that you’ll need to revise your postmortem travel plans for a somewhat warmer destination.

The people under fifty there, what do those people have in common that makes their risk higher? That would be my question and it should be a question that is investigated and evaluated. It will possibly save many other people's lives if they figure out why.

originally posted by: Isurrender73
a reply to: infolurker

So what you are saying is that people who have severe reactions to the disease are in the hospital?

What about those who are not suffering severe reactions? Where are they? What are their numbers?

Can we stop pushing fear yet? Or should we all just go buy TP and board ourselves up in our houses to survive?

Amen, brother!

The fear Is overwhelming. With such few new infections.

We all have our own power. Believe!

a reply to: KKLOCO

Unknown.

There may be some possible risk factors with ACE inhibitors. A lot of people in the US are on them.


www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(20)30116-8/fulltext

The most distinctive comorbidities of 32 non-survivors from a group of 52 intensive care unit patients with novel coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the study by Xiaobo Yang and colleagues1 were cerebrovascular diseases (22%) and diabetes (22%). Another study2 included 1099 patients with confirmed COVID-19, of whom 173 had severe disease with comorbidities of hypertension (23·7%), diabetes mellitus (16·2%), coronary heart diseases (5·8%), and cerebrovascular disease (2·3%). In a third study,3 of 140 patients who were admitted to hospital with COVID-19, 30% had hypertension and 12% had diabetes

Notably, the most frequent comorbidities reported in these three studies of patients with COVID-19 are often treated with angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors; however, treatment was not assessed in either study.

Human pathogenic coronaviruses (severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus [SARS-CoV] and SARS-CoV-2) bind to their target cells through angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2), which is expressed by epithelial cells of the lung, intestine, kidney, and blood vessels.4 The expression of ACE2 is substantially increased in patients with type 1 or type 2 diabetes, who are treated with ACE inhibitors and angiotensin II type-I receptor blockers (ARBs).4

Hypertension is also treated with ACE inhibitors and ARBs, which results in an upregulation of ACE2.5 ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen. These data suggest that ACE2 expression is increased in diabetes and treatment with ACE inhibitors and ARBs increases ACE2 expression. Consequently, the increased expression of ACE2 would facilitate infection with COVID-19. We therefore hypothesise that diabetes and hypertension treatment with ACE2-stimulating drugs increases the risk of developing severe and fatal COVID-19.

a reply to: Bicent
The French have been rioting for going on 18months straight and their aristocracy are some of the origins for present day Western order secret societies and these centralized defense and financial power blocs. Yes they are a part of the coordinated mind control operation, or psy-op.

What we need to see is who is going to show up for bilderberg 2020, if they even have a meet this year. It's some heavy stuff happening between the families of twentieth century and twenty first century dynasties of production and finance.

I guess it's just what happens to humans civilizations every century. I guess I will just accept this for now, honestly it beats the tds soaps that were dominating the airwaves and print. I suppose I should be thankful. I'm going to start playing coverfefe-story19 and keep an eye on things. At present I have bookmarked what the criteria for even getting ICU vs urgency of needing it for these countries. If you have any insight to these particular costs and threshold for ICU in these countries??

I read in a reply recently on here that the USA had higher capacity and availability of ICU or perhaps it was beds specifically than most of Europe put together per 100,000 people. Was there any merit to that post??

More Than Half Of Dutch Coronavirus ICU Patients Are Under 50

Meaning they get out more , and pay less heed to caution.
That is all
Carry on.

Done.
Next.

a reply to: worldstarcountry

Well I humbly agree to disagree, if this gets outta hand it will be best we all come to a common goal. I am just kinda pasted the part where I think globalist politics s somehow creating the facts. In any case I appreciate your differant view, just the semantics associated with this dang virus is all over the place time will eventually constrict that to where eventually the truth will be revealed no matter what. The facts are getting to be crazy. Hell Hoboken Nj, just issued a damn curfew at 10pm til am. That I give your idealism credit for. Crazy times.

a reply to: Bicent

A good article with what happened and how many days behind we are.

www.bostonglobe.com...

A coronavirus cautionary tale from Italy: Don’t do what we did

Many of us were too selfish to follow suggestions to change our behavior. Now we’re in lockdown and people are needlessly dying.

The inability of the medical system to deal with the flow of patients in critical condition is not one of the problems of this complex medical emergency. It is the problem. I shouldn’t have been surprised. As a journalist, I had read, heard, and spoken to several experts explaining that the most immediate threat of Covid-19 was the hospital system becoming overwhelmed, and therefore the most pressing need was to avoid too many people getting sick at the same time, as resources are limited. (It’s what’s called “flattening the curve.”)

According to several data scientists, Italy is about 10 days ahead of Spain, Germany, and France in the epidemic progression, and 13 to 16 days ahead of the United Kingdom and the United States. That means those countries have the opportunity to take measures that today may look excessive and disproportionate, yet from the future, where I am now, are perfectly rational in order to avoid a health care system collapse. The United States has some 45,000 ICU beds, and even in a moderate outbreak scenario, some 200,000 Americans will need intensive care.

a reply to: infolurker

I know.. everybody, processes facts figures in there own way. Hopefully everyone is stocked up with medicine and food and doing their best not to get sick now. Our job is to keep staying down to earth, assimilate the data and continue to share the facts and keep down to earth, opinions. Hence the phrase down to earth.