USA about to quarentine CA, NYC, Likely others

Here it comes





NYC

LA

I hope you guys stateside have made your preperations like we told you to do 7 weeks ago, if youre in one of these quarentines youre likely going to be rationed by the army

My best guess is where we see community transmission occuring you'll also be also on strict lockdown meassures to tackle the RO to lessen the pressure on the hospitals which in turn will drop the CFR /mortalitity rate

While anything is possible, I find it difficult to believe a "strict quarantine" will be maintained in the US in most cases. I don't think most of our friends across the pond understand how spread out we are. For example, the city of Los Angeles is 503 mi².
London is 1.12 mi².

That being said, we are also notoriously bad at taking strict directions from the government. This has both up and downsides, obviously, but we have not been conditioned over multiple generations to obey authority without question.

I'm thinking they would need a lot of resources to hold quarantine over anything larger than a neighborhood. Also, to be honest, large-scale quarantine would spook the stock market (even more than it already has been).

Our government would force the Statue of Liberty to turn tricks for extra cash before it would do anything to threaten the stability of the market at that scale.

Cool find though. 37-75k seems low. You'd have to pay me 250k plus to take a job like that.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Can you provide a link related to the first pic you posted. I'm in Newark.

USA about to quarentine CA, NYC

Yeah, good luck with that.

This title is something that would come from the Daily Mail...more fear mongering BS.

There will be more people dying because of the quarantines than because of the COV-19. Many will not be able to get to the store or too the pharmacies to get needed meds and foods. It is necessary to get prepared.

I know people who say they cannot afford to get prepared, it is too expensive and it would interfere with their ability to party too. It would cause them to have to lower their cell phone plan and have restricted data.

You can buy rice, some canned foods, and some noodles and frozen veggies to supply food for two people for a couple of weeks for under fifty bucks....then just rotate it in stock. This pandemic is not going to knock out the water, but you might want to buy a case extra of bottled water if your water sucks and you cannot drink it without almost puking.

Within a month, you could buy some stock each week, and that kind of food will not go to waste, just don't buy foods you will never eat, buy stuff you always eat. We keep taco shells in rotation in our pantry and soft shells in the freezer. I do not want to not have tacos if things go sour, so we got some in reserve. All bought on sale at really good prices instead of going pay full price when you feel like Tacos.

A quarantine would incite mass panic and an "end of the world" scenario, in the affected city. Would make a good movie, but it's not practical.

If California gets quarantined, beware, it will probably mean that we won't be able to get fresh fruits and vegetables from there for a while, and also their workers will not be making money taking care of and processing that food.

Make sure to buy some frozen veggies for your freezer.

Damn the internet...


Man, they are not going to quarantine California and NYC.

This is beyond silly now.

originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
While anything is possible, I find it difficult to believe a "strict quarantine" will be maintained in the US in most cases. I don't think most of our friends across the pond understand how spread out we are. For example, the city of Los Angeles is 503 mi².
London is 1.12 mi².

That being said, we are also notoriously bad at taking strict directions from the government. This has both up and downsides, obviously, but we have not been conditioned over multiple generations to obey authority without question.

I'm thinking they would need a lot of resources to hold quarantine over anything larger than a neighborhood. Also, to be honest, large-scale quarantine would spook the stock market (even more than it already has been).

Our government would force the Statue of Liberty to turn tricks for extra cash before it would do anything to threaten the stability of the market at that scale.

Cool find though. 37-75k seems low. You'd have to pay me 250k plus to take a job like that.

Im aware... This has been my worry for weeks

Here me out

China had Wuhan then further afield Hubei province

Then 400 mil lockdowns and the rest of the country on strict meassures

So now we look how effective it was

Wuhan 4.8% Mortality
Hubei 2.2% Mortality
China wide 0.07% Mortality

It looks effective

Problem every other country is going to have... theyll have several Wuhans due to contunied air travels and late Quarentines, IMO both the UK & USA should have quarentined weeks ago, Italy over 6,000 cases already before lockdown, travellers from italy went on to infect the rest of europe

So were already far to late to have just 1 Wuhan to deal with

Now consider everything we need to fight this virus is probably made in china, India have shut down exports of anti viral drugs the UK will need incase of secondary infections, thats just the start

China were able to lockdown one epicentre and use the rest of the countries resources to combat the virus

What chance does the rest of the world have?

So my worry is if we cant, nationwide were going to see 4.8% CFR across poterntially 40% - 80% of each nations population

Which is a huge number globally

It’s physically impossible to quarantine a city as large as Los Angeles and NYC. My guess is that these job postings are for quarantines of individual people, and not the cities.

originally posted by: carewemust
A quarantine would incite mass panic and an "end of the world" scenario, in the affected city. Would make a good movie, but it's not practical.

Its the only thing which will work or the deathtoll will be massive

you have to slow the R0 to bring down the mortality rate

If 80% of the country gets it withing the coming months april - may

Then 15% could become critical care ICU

If theyre not given hospital beds, medicine, ventilators etc, the mortality rate will be massive, this is why we see people dropping down in the streets or being carried out their house or tower block in body bags, they didnt have the capacity, they welded the doors shut after 1/2 cases inside entire tower blocks, they didnt add people who died outside care to the CFR /mortality rate either

a reply to: TritonTaranis

USA about to quarentine CA, NYC, Likely others

I'm not so sure that's accurate, that the US is preparing to quarantine entire cities or sections of cities. The CDC's Quarantine Program, which your screens shots suggest they're looking for medical person, has existed for several decades and currently operates at points of entry. So, they're likely looking for personnel for these stations, or for any medical facilities dealing with potential infections and the need to quarantine additional patients.

U.S. Quarantine Stations are located at 20 ports of entry and land-border crossings where international travelers arrive. They are staffed with quarantine medical and public health officers from CDC. These health officers decide whether ill persons can enter the United States and what measures should be taken to prevent the spread of infectious diseases.

CDC

Quarantine Program (jobs)



CDC

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

You said pretty much everything I was going to say!



I will only add that "quarantine" can mean many things in practice. It can be closing borders to an entire state or city... or it can mean those individuals who have been diagnosed with an active case... or anything in between.

I think a voluntary self-isolation would be the first step, perhaps (hopefully) with some leeway and provision for necessary and proper situations -- from shopping to working to visiting/caring for sick relatives, etc. And I think the vast majority of people would comply.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

I hear you, but I just don't believe it. The higher the number of people you test, the more asymptomatic positives you find and the lower the rate of mortality.

These numbers are easily fudged by who you test, how you test and what you test for.

They are also very easily misunderstood by the general public.

Is it likely to get worse? Yep. Is it going to kill more than 4-percent off the people who get it? I sincerely doubt it.

Regardless, underworks has the right of it. Quarantine officers work at a much smaller scale than regions or cities.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

sigh - critical thinking dies again

the existance of these posts - does NOT imply a blanket quarrantine of an area - but quarantine operations within an area

this should not be hard to grasp

neither should the obvious - a quarrantine officer would not be stationed within the area they were supposted to be quarrantining

but hey - this is ATS doom porn - so logic is not expected

a reply to: Boadicea

You nailed it! The five factor model of human psychology describes the single largest variable in how cooperative people will be under voluntary (self) quarantine: conscientiousness.

People low on the scale are more likely to break quarantine than people who score higher. However, I believe you are right when you say the vast majority would comply, likely due to a combination of factors (external pressure, fear of punishment, level of aggression or extraversion, and neuroticism).

Interestingly enough, those who score high in neuroticism, for example, are very quick to believe anything that reinforces their existing worldview. Even non-onscientious people who score high in neuroticism are likely to keep to voluntary quarantine because self-isolation would reinforce their existing personality traits and characteristics.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

perhaps a paradigm shift is taking place

the shrewd MBA/Lawyer/Banker-Broker Analyst is no longer the goal-keeper in-charge

with a Pathogen Pandemic , 24-7-365 as the near future way-of-life... health safety will be the replacement 'drive-chain' of the new socio-economic business model...

old models of Globalism even socialism will be cast aside if this Pandemic persists for longer than a black-swan event Crisis

health safety will preempt business world savvy and the production line virus transmission will become the costly expense to eradicate close to 100% as possible.... 8 hour shifts will be 50-50 experience-virus containment...so productivity will be reset 45% lower than present productivity claims by statistics manipulators the shrewd CEOs hire on today


the Corporatocracy rise will demote the current high-flyers like Bezoz hiding-under-the-blanket types in the corporate landscape... also the Bill gates vaccinator type will be Vetted very/very deeply with his views on population, also his views on Eugenics with a deep-pockets Foundation funding his 'visions' of Tomorrows world

dystopia commeth on a virus disrupter aimed at economy systems

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Disregarding your numbers, which I do not believe are reasonable or accurate (sorry!), you are correct that social distancing (encouraging telework, closing schools as a precaution, etc) does help slow the flow and that is the plan.

A lot more people are going to get it eventually, whether they show symptoms or not. Social distancing -- as a strategy -- slows the rate of community spread so our hospitals do not become overwhelmed. That's a really good thing, but either way, widescale efforts to encourage it are (probably) coming.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Its the only thing which will work or the deathtoll will be massive...

This is the fear, but no one knows for sure what's going to happen.

...you have to slow the R0 to bring down the mortality rate...

RO?

If 80% of the country gets it withing the coming months april - may...

Keep in mind that as the weather warms the virus will begin dying its natural death... at least for this season. So the rate of contraction, and therefore the rate of transmission, will decrease accordingly as we get into spring and then summer.. In the southwest, we're in the 80s right now. By April/May, we'll be in the 90s. And will most likely hit triple digits before Memorial Day.

Then 15% could become critical care ICU If theyre not given hospital beds, medicine, ventilators etc, the mortality rate will be massive...

People have never been better prepared to battle illness and disease. Modern medical technology continues to keep many people alive that would have died even 50 years ago. But also, we know more than ever about food as medicine, including vitamins and other nutrients. Our bodies today are better nourished and stronger than previous generations, who suffered chronic scurvy, pellagio, rickets, night blindness, etc., all because of nutritional deficiencies.

We've had plenty of warning. Most people who are so inclined have already taken preventative measures to protect and strengthen their bodies. Many of us because we've been doing it for years, so we were prepared. Others because they recognize the reasonable risk and are taking reasonable precautions.

May I ask what you've done to prepare? Do you have a plan? Are you concerned because you don't think there is any way to prepare? Or because you don't think you can prepare enough? Or because you don't know how to prepare?

I only worry when I have no plan. If I have a plan, I'm good to go.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: TritonTaranis

the existance of these posts - does NOT imply a blanket quarrantine of an area - but quarantine operations within an area
this should not be hard to grasp

I found the first pic, mentioning my city because there is a quarantine center in Newark, nothing says they will quarantine my city.