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originally posted by: DISRAELI
www.abovetopsecret.com... The peace treaty arranged by the Antichrist
www.abovetopsecret.com... Rebuilding a physical temple
www.abovetopsecret.com... The destruction of Damascus.
www.abovetopsecret.com... The return of the giants
www.abovetopsecret.com... The Rapture
www.abovetopsecret.com... Armageddon as a physical battle between human armies
www.abovetopsecret.com... The reincarnation of Christ
And also, while we’re at it;
www.abovetopsecret.com... The Last Battle in Old Testament prophecy
www.abovetopsecret.com... Peace restored
www.abovetopsecret.com... The book of Revelation
originally posted by: JoseGarcia
BTW, I think your bit about the giants returning mostly sounds grossly uninformed--evidently in terms of the Biblical record & root word meanings as well as evidence from the last 50 years or so.
originally posted by: JON666
a reply to: DISRAELI
You poo poo people who interpet as in the days of Noah and giants, yet you interpet scripture in dispensations which came about with Darby's theology of the 1800's.
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In spite of the claims that Premillennial Dispensationalism is of recent origin, very little of what John Nelson Darby wrote in the mid-nineteenth century was new.255 According to Newton scholar Stephen Snobelen of King’s College, Halifax, “prophetic interpretation was a high intellectual endeavor in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries.”256 Those who insist Premillennialism is of recent origin need only study the Dead Sea Scrolls, or the earliest of church fathers (pre-Augustine, except for the Alexandrine metaphorical school), or !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 251 Ibid.,!58,349. 252
Alexander!Fraser,!Key%to%the%Prophecies%of%the%Old%&%New%Testament,%which%are%not%yet%accomplished (Edinburgh,!1795),!50V51. 253 Ibid.,!171V173. 254 Ibid.,!465V468.
the many millennial movements for the past two millennia. Whenever Christians were oppressed they sought hope in a Messiah, but whenever they were comfortable and triumphant these millennial hopes faded. In the seventeenth century a Cambridge don, Joseph Mede, produced the first comprehensive Reformed system of eschatology, something the Reformers failed to develop. About the same time an Amsterdam rabbi, Manasseh ben Israel, promoted among the Puritans a hope that the Jews would be returned to their own land. Early seventeenth century Puritans and their successors in the late seventeenth and eighteenth centuries believed this would presage the impending collapse of Rome and papal power.
Among them were John Milton, Increase Mather, Bishop William Lloyd, Isaac Newton, and numerous others. The seventeenth and eighteenth century millenarians presented in this paper were precursors to the better known nineteenth century Dispensationalists like Darby and Schofield, who influenced popular evangelical writers of the twentieth century like Lewis Sperry Chafer, John Walvoord, Charles Ryrie, Hal Lindsey, Tim LaHaye, and Joel Rosenberg.
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150BC - 70AD Rapture Mentioned in the Dead Sea Scrolls
"A Newly Discovered Dead Sea Scroll Has Revealed Who Will be Left Behind When the Rapture Comes a Leading Scholar Reports" from the journalist David Augustine. (Jack van Impe Ministries, June 16, 2005)
In this article Dr. William Harold, professor of Canon Law, at the Theological Seminary of Essex, GB wrote:
"Without doubt, this is the most important discovery in the history of Biblical archeology. The scroll, written in Aramaic, the language spoken in the Holy Land during Jesus time on earth, was found in a cave on the shores of the Dead Sea by geologists conducting a survey for the Israeli government."
The scrolls read:
"The Rapture will occur suddenly. And countless thousands will vanish from the earth. Swept up to heaven to live with Jesus and escape the torment of the Tribulation, the others will be left behind." — The Dead Sea Scrolls
Many others believed and taught this long before John Darby
95-150 AD, the Rapture idea was preached by the Shepherd of Hermas. 2
"You have escaped from great tribulation on account of your faith, and because you did not doubt in the presence of such a beast. Go, therefore, and tell the elect of the Lord His mighty deeds, and say to them that this beast is a type of the great tribulation that is coming. If then ye prepare yourselves, and repent with all your heart, and turn to the Lord, it will be possible for you to escape it, if your heart be pure and spotless, and ye spend the rest of the days of your life in serving the Lord blamelessly." (documented by Larry V. Crutchfield) 3
originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: DISRAELI
Tales of ancient giants sell books.
Giants have nothing to do with Salvation and are a distraction. There is no use wasting time on speculation on "what" happened as what "will" happen.
What is that? Well, you will perish one way or the other. That is inevitable. Only through Christ can you surely be saved. Only though his sacrifice on the cross to pay your debt can you overcome death and have everlasting life.