Why Biden won’t drop out...it all goes back to Obama

originally posted by: underwerks
Biden is a nice shiny target for Trump and the rest of the Republicans to focus on while other candidates lay the ground work and build up their bases. That’s his role.

And it worked beautifully.

This is chess, not checkers. It appears the DNC learned something from the last election.

Wow!

The mind of a leftist is a truly amazing thing...

Who?
What base?

I love how you just bastardized what we say...

In case you haven't been paying attention for the last 3 years but the Democrats have been playing tick tack toe in a game of chess and still haven't learned why they get trounced in every match.

a reply to: JAY1980

I'm just amazed the Democrats were able to take about the majority in the House.

a reply to: underwerks

Hillary was unelectable Trump is not .

a reply to: JAY1980

I love how you just bastardized what we say...

And I love how you misinterpret everything that doesn’t agree with what you want to think. It’s like talking to someone who just bashed their head on the doorway walking into the house.

The mind of a leftist is a truly amazing thing...

Thanks you for using the correct terminology when describing me. Most people use liberal and leftist interchangeably, so it makes it difficult for me to take anything they say seriously. In all my time here, that’s the first thing I’ve ever seen you get right.

Right on.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: underwerks

Which candidate from the left do you think would really do well for us?

So far the other two options look like Pete and Bloomberg. DNC looks like they're loading the deck against Bernie.. So it's a wet behind the ears establishment shill, or a billionaire extorting the system to hijack a ticket bid.

Bernie is the only one. But he’s a little too centrist for my tastes. Bloomberg is nothing more than a competent Donald Trump. The one saving grace of Trump and his goon squad is that they’re too incompetent and self-serving to really take advantage of the fascist whirlwind they’ve whipped up. And I think Pete is a CIA plant.

If it’s Bloomberg and Trump, I hope Trump wins. Donald Trump has broken the government and our country. To allow a competent fascist like Bloomberg to be President afterwards would be the death knell of America.

But then again I suppose it’s going to happen eventually given the state of America. That’s the end game of Donald Trumps time in office. New Zealand is looking nice.

I have to ask because I am confused by something. With all of the good things that are happening in our country right now, why would you vote for someone (any Democrat) that would reverse the course of the economy and jobs? Do you want higher unemployment again? More people on welfare again? More businesses struggling again? A wide open southern border again?

Please help me understand why anyone would want our country going backwards.

originally posted by: 10uoutlaw
a reply to: underwerks

Hillary was unelectable Trump is not .

A number 10 super-sized would be electable if it had an R beside the name.

Electability isn’t a huge thing for Republicans. More than anyone, you can always count on them doing what they’re told.

a reply to: underwerks

Interesting take.

Out of curiosity, what do you think Bernie is too centrist on?

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: underwerks

Which candidate from the left do you think would really do well for us?

So far the other two options look like Pete and Bloomberg. DNC looks like they're loading the deck against Bernie.. So it's a wet behind the ears establishment shill, or a billionaire extorting the system to hijack a ticket bid.

Bernie is the only one. But he’s a little too centrist for my tastes. Bloomberg is nothing more than a competent Donald Trump. The one saving grace of Trump and his goon squad is that they’re too incompetent and self-serving to really take advantage of the fascist whirlwind they’ve whipped up. And I think Pete is a CIA plant.

If it’s Bloomberg and Trump, I hope Trump wins. Donald Trump has broken the government and our country. To allow a competent fascist like Bloomberg to be President afterwards would be the death knell of America.

But then again I suppose it’s going to happen eventually given the state of America. That’s the end game of Donald Trumps time in office. New Zealand is looking nice.

I have to ask because I am confused by something. With all of the good things that are happening in our country right now, why would you vote for someone (any Democrat) that would reverse the course of the economy and jobs? Do you want higher unemployment again? More people on welfare again? More businesses struggling again? A wide open southern border again?

Please help me understand why anyone would want our country going backwards.

Because all these things you’re talking about are lies or misrepresentations. Our deficit is soaring more than ever, and I hate to break it to you but the stock market isn’t “the economy” or even a valid representation of it. That’s basic, college course economics.

What’s the use of millions of extra jobs when a person can barely pay rent and bills with three of them? You all that are seeing these economic advantages of the Trump administration are being hoodwinked. You’re looking at the wrong indicators, because that’s what you’re being fed by the government.



You’re talking about believing fully what one of the most notoriously corrupt politicians in the history of America tells you. A man so corrupt he was banned from having charities in New York State because he was stealing money that was supposed to go to children with cancer. Who recently got fined $2 million for corrupt use of another charity involving veterans.

If a majority of America is so mentally decrepit they accept what a person like that tells them without question, maybe America needs to go down in flames.

Again, New Zealand looks nice.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: underwerks

Interesting take.

Out of curiosity, what do you think Bernie is too centrist on?

He’s not hard enough on government and big corporations. I agree with a lot of his policies, especially healthcare. But when you step back and compare his platform to the rest of the developed world you find out his policies are a lot more centrist than they’re made out to be in America. The Overton window has shifted that much in this country.

My ideal society is one where people have close to unlimited personal freedoms and government and big corporations are heavily regulated. Because the only way to ensure the population has that level of freedom is to keep big government and big business in check. Through laws and regulations. Otherwise those freedoms are eroded through money and influence. Bernie is making strides in that direction, but he’s not going far enough in my opinion. But then again, something like that can’t happen overnight. So maybe baby steps are needed.

I think Bernie is that baby step. The Democrats know this, which is why they screwed him over last time and are trying to this time. They are just as beholden to special interests as the Republicans are and have just as much to lose if the corrupt gravy train stops.

a reply to: underwerks

You are probably right biden is there purely for distraction...

Kinda like Hillary the year Obama got elected, BUT there is nobody in the current crop of candidates (maybe Yang but that's another issue) with the charisma to pull it off. (imo obviously)

I honestly think this years crop for the DNC is kinda like the RNC going with Mccain and then Mittens, yea possible but if they flop no real loss to us.

originally posted by: underwerks
Biden is a nice shiny target for Trump and the rest of the Republicans to focus on while other Bloomberg writes the checks and pays his base. That’s his role.

And it's obvious it's all they got, every Democratic president in the past their viability was a given by now.

This is their only hope, use his millions to influence congressional and senate votes. It appears the DNC learned nothing from the last election.

Fixed it for ya, but you know it's true LOL Hilliary for VP LOL they learned nothing.

There is no ‘race’

Not one single person on the dEm candidate list is ‘in the race’

Their opponent is one of the most successful Presidents in modern history

The ‘race’ is over before it even begins

originally posted by: Irishhaf
a reply to: underwerks

You are probably right biden is there purely for distraction...

Kinda like Hillary the year Obama got elected, BUT there is nobody in the current crop of candidates (maybe Yang but that's another issue) with the charisma to pull it off. (imo obviously)

I honestly think this years crop for the DNC is kinda like the RNC going with Mccain and then Mittens, yea possible but if they flop no real loss to us.

I think the Democrats knew who they were dealing with this time. And knew they had to have a supposed frontrunner to shield the rest of them from the attacks of the Trump administration. At least until it got closer to election time.

Enter Joe Biden, a part of the Obama administration who Trump and his cronies hate with a passion. Of course Trump is going to bite. There’s a person who was literally number two under Obama and has shady, questionable business around the globe. It’s like dangling a piece of meat in front of a hungry dog.

The only evidence a person needs of this being true is where we are, right now. So much energy and time has been expended on bringing to light how allegedly corrupt Biden is that the Trump administration hasn’t had time to go after any other candidates. And in their style of adversarial politics, that’s going to hurt them.

originally posted by: underwerks

Because all these things you’re talking about are lies or misrepresentations. Our deficit is soaring more than ever, and I hate to break it to you but the stock market isn’t “the economy” or even a valid representation of it. That’s basic, college course economics.

What’s the use of millions of extra jobs when a person can barely pay rent and bills with three of them? You all that are seeing these economic advantages of the Trump administration are being hoodwinked. You’re looking at the wrong indicators, because that’s what you’re being fed by the government.

You’re talking about believing fully what one of the most notoriously corrupt politicians in the history of America tells you. A man so corrupt he was banned from having charities in New York State because he was stealing money that was supposed to go to children with cancer. Who recently got fined $2 million for corrupt use of another charity involving veterans.

If a majority of America is so mentally decrepit they accept what a person like that tells them without question, maybe America needs to go down in flames.

Again, New Zealand looks nice.

Wow. What jaded you so badly? You're wrong about the economy though, no matter how you want to spin it. You need to actually get out and see what's going on, see the enthusiasm and confidence the rest of us have. I said nothing about the stock market so you lose there too. And you're even wrong about wages, the lowest have seen the largest increase as opposed to the highest which is a very good thing.

Dude, you are wrong about everything you mentioned when it comes right down to it. But if you're really convinced that things are so terrible, you're welcome to leave and find another country that best suits your views. Please, do. Let the rest of us enjoy our nation and continue to help fix it.

a reply to: SocratesJohnson
Pardon my source as it was first google preference and anyone can search this topic themself, but Obama repeatedly tried talking Biden out of running according to the news.

gq Obama Biden story

a reply to: HalWesten

You need to actually get out and see what's going on, see the enthusiasm and confidence the rest of us have.

Enthusiasm and confidence don’t pay my electric bill.

Wow. What jaded you so badly?

I’m not jaded, that’s just the reality of this country. You can’t begin to fix something until you can be honest about what’s wrong with it. And by paying lip service to the government spiel about how great things are going when most people are one medical emergency away from being bankrupt you move even further from that.

Donald Trump tells you what you want to hear. No matter the subject, no matter the stakes.

Look deeper.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: HalWesten

You need to actually get out and see what's going on, see the enthusiasm and confidence the rest of us have.

Enthusiasm and confidence don’t pay my electric bill.

Wow. What jaded you so badly?

I’m not jaded, that’s just the reality of this country. You can’t begin to fix something until you can be honest about what’s wrong with it. And by paying lip service to the government spiel about how great things are going when most people are one medical emergency away from being bankrupt you move even further from that.

Donald Trump tells you what you want to hear. No matter the subject, no matter the stakes.

Look deeper.

I'll give you a break because it seems that you have bought into the garbage from the Left that constantly says we're jumping off a cliff instead of looking at the truth. Of course there are issues but I don't count on the government to tell me how to feel or think, that's a mistake people on your side make daily and it's a sad thing to witness. You're right about one thing, thanks to previous administrations, many of us are one catastrophe away from bankruptcy. The ACA that we had to be on for three months last year while waiting for my job insurance to kick in eliminated our small tax refund and is going to force us to give up a vacation this year because we have to pay back over three grand of "subsidy" on a plan we didn't use and didn't want to begin with.

If you want to talk about something that's broken, it's not our government, that can be fixed by We the People. It's our health care system that is even less affordable due to the ACA. A couple of minor changes would have fixed the coverage issue but dismantling the old system was a huge mistake. That has cost everyone more than we could have imagined and cost me thousands over the last four years, despite Obama claiming we would all save money. He lied through his teeth and he knew what was going to happen. But it's those people, the ones you follow, that caused that to happen. They are poison to our country and I sincerely hope that over time we can eliminate those ideas that serve only to destroy this great nation. The Democrat party as a whole is currently made up of evil, USA-hating people at the top and willingly ignorant sheep at the bottom.


Edit to add - Everyone can see that Joe has a serious medical issue, most likely the start of dementia and there's no way he should be running for president. I don't think it's anything other than his ego keeping him in the "race", that and his likely denial that there is anything wrong with his mental state. If he were sharp and younger I think he could win but there is no way in hell he gets too much farther due to his health.

Biden has to make it to the convention. That's his only chance to become the democratic challenger.
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This is why he hasn't dropped out.

Biden will be bowing out next week just like every single one of his other runs. Obama told him not to run. Would not listen. Bernie, Buttakeg and Blooming Onion. Take it or leave it.

Yes, because the Trump admin has been "draining" the swamp and put dozens and dozens of corrupt politicians in jail so far so they need to keep getting reelected to stay out of jail. Every Democrat is afraid. Not. Gtfo.