I hate healthcare with all my might out pocket expenses are killing me

Healthcare is such a scam. It sucks so bad I just can't stand it. Hospital bill, surgeon's bill, anesthesiologists bill. Eff em all!!!!

a reply to: dfnj2015

The aca works well for me.

Saved me from colon cancer.

Really, without it I would have never been able to afford to get test done on the pain I felt. I'd already been living with the pain for 3 years.
Doctor said if I had waited another few years I would have had to go through chemo and stuff. But I caught it soon enough they were able to remove it with surgery.

Out of pocket cost for me was about $900 in total. That's for all the tests and the operation.

a reply to: dfnj2015

hmm - if only there was a different model to fund health care .....................

a reply to: dfnj2015

I know. It's insane what they charge us. Something has to be done.

Dental is also real expensive here. Best to fly to costa rica for any major dental surgery if you dont have insurance.

It can't be fixed. Too complicated. A good example of how complicated it is involves the recent new NAFTA plan. There is a condition in it directly tied to high drug prices in the US. Democrats wanted to keep those prices high. They want high drug prices because big Pharma will keep giving them campaign dollars.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

It's an easy fix - - it can be fixed in a day. But that fix would result in a massive stock market crash, lots of hospital and healthcare "administrators" losing their jobs and campaign contributions drying up b/c they wouldn't be favored by politicians anymore. There isn't one person in congress nor the president that has any interest in fixing it though. The rising cost of healthcare will likely crash the economy within 4-5 years. And then we'll be told nobody could have seen it coming.

I need to make a doctors appointment again, once a year our medicare pays a doctor visit completely, no deductible. I am going to ask him about blood tests that test a lot of different things than the regular metabolic panel, also the urine test. Another doctor locally, one of the natural doctors, does do the tests, the whole test is three hundred bucks, I can afford that but I do want the draw and doctors visit covered. So some set up is in order to get that done, I will contact him online to see if he can prescribe the test. It does have the metabolic panel in the test, but it has way more than that, things that can tell a person how their whole body is working. What food chemistry is lacking, what minerals are too high or too low, it tests for about twenty minerals, not just sodium and iron.

I have my daughters test results to look at, impressive tests she got. I could get the test from her doctor, but he does not take medicare, you have to bill everything yourself. Medicare does cover many of the tests and half of the doctor bill. I would actually like to have my doctor look into this somewhat, but he is an employee of the hospital, they do not do these tests here, and they do not want doctors to go out of their system.

I spent two hundred bucks at the doctor and copay on medicines last year. I spent no money for two years before that for doctors or medicines. The only reason I went last year is to actually have a doctor, someone to send the records to if I go to the outpatient clinic for an injury or problem.

I research to try to figure out what causes my problems, and eliminate the problematic chemistry from my diet or at least reduce and moderate it. It takes lots of research and paying attention and I am very particular, I want to know what interactions are happening, I take the random out of things.

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I had really nice insurance plan before the ACA. $100 deductible $10 dollar copays $15 for meds cost me 165 a month.

After ACA went live my insurance company wanted over 400 a month with 10k deductible.


I hate aca want it all to go back like it was before Obama!

a reply to: dfnj2015

I can't really relate to this thread at all, but I gave you your star and flag. I live in a first world country, so I don't really understand this whole paying to go to the doctors or hospital nonsense.

a reply to: acparker7

It can't be fixed in a day. It's not just something like the ACA or one comprehensive bill. It branches out all over the place with trade deal details, campaign contributions, religious issues like abortion, birth control. It touches everything. Even State tax laws. They all tax things different.

The main problem though is not even costs. There are not enough Doctors and medical staff to treat everyone which is what nobody wants to discuss. Go ahead and get the prices down. The lines will get much longer for care. The demand will go sky high. It would take decades to ramp that up.

Wow, something we agree on.

Even health insurance is terrible. My employer's plan is almost $400/month, not including the amount my employer would have to pay. Then add a $7,000 deductible that has to be met to be able to use the insurance I'd be paying $400/month.

I just denied health insurance for the 2nd year in a row and now just put that money into an account in hopes I don't have to access it. Another thing I don't like is about health insurance is if the mother and father are no longer together. Single plans are about 75% the cost of a family plan and then the difference I'd pay to their mother on her insurance brings my total over the amount I'd pay if I just bought another family plan.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Healthcare is such a scam. It sucks so bad I just can't stand it. Hospital bill, surgeon's bill, anesthesiologists bill. Eff em all!!!!

yeah!
why should doctors be paid
why should hospitals be paid
why should surgeons be paid
why should anesthesiologists be paid

they should do all that for free because they like you, right?

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
There is a condition in it directly tied to high drug prices in the US. Democrats wanted to keep those prices high. They want high drug prices because big Pharma will keep giving them campaign dollars.

Anyone who thinks that only one party is beholden to corporate interests, particularly the pharmaceutical varieties, has been spending too much time ingesting their stronger psychotropic products.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Do you have a link that shows most of the pharma shills are Democrats?

Pelosi is a big Democrat and she pushed a bill to lower 250 drug prescriptions which was supported by trump.
www.washingtonpost.com... ml

Just a hunch hunch, but i figured pharmaceutical sellout politicians existed on all sides of the political party spectrum.

politifact investigates the viral Democrat pharma image
Maybe that is what you meant?

Also, look at how many R's voted against it.
www.senate.gov...

But it appears the amendment wasn't that great anyway from what i read..

Seems like nearly everyone gets money from big pharma. Including mainstream news networks. Not sure what the awnser is to lower prices.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
There is a condition in it directly tied to high drug prices in the US. Democrats wanted to keep those prices high. They want high drug prices because big Pharma will keep giving them campaign dollars.

Anyone who thinks that only one party is beholden to corporate interests, particularly the pharmaceutical varieties, has been spending too much time ingesting their stronger psychotropic products.

And not sharing, which is a party foul.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I know it's not one party, just giving the most recent example I know about. They don't want it fixed and can't fix it. If they fixed it big Pharma will start donating to a new candidate to raise costs all over again. Fixing it is a death sentence to a politician. Where are they going to get money from to run these gas gusling campaigns.

a reply to: shooterbrody

I think the point OP is trying to make is that other countries have cheaper and better healthcare than us. Especially when the US is a wealthy country.
www.internationalinsurance.com...

Is it because we allow pharmaceutical companies to influence our national and local politics and government?

I wonder if it should be illegal for big corporations to lobby politicians and doctors (getting them to push certain products)?

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
I know it's not one party, just giving the most recent example I know about.

Your example sucks and is disingenuous, which you already know.

Your pals the Republicans suck as much pharma ass as the Democrats.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: dfnj2015
Healthcare is such a scam. It sucks so bad I just can't stand it. Hospital bill, surgeon's bill, anesthesiologists bill. Eff em all!!!!

yeah!
why should doctors be paid
why should hospitals be paid
why should surgeons be paid
why should anesthesiologists be paid

they should do all that for free because they like you, right?

Aw bless, how on earth are they doing it here in the UK where healthcare is FREE and all those people are still getting paid?
It must be a miracle.
Or it's being paid via taxes, and it's really not a lot. People moan about it but I am really proud of the NHS.
I can go to the dentist and the doctor whenever I or anyone else who happens to walk around in the UK has a problem.

Our GP's salary here in the couyntrysde is £85K a year. In London it's over £100K, any more and it will be greed.
Is that enough payment for you?
I also get my medication for free!!!!!!