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A question the left won't answer?

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posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 11:40 AM
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Not for nothing, but all I did was try to make you FOCUS on a single point before jumping all over the place.

And something as simple as that, makes the LEft lose their collective #.

the Left has the intellect and temperament of a 2 yr old. and behave accordingly.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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a reply to: toolgal462

No worries tool, I’m not angry or tantruming. Just talking. Not surprising you can’t tell the difference, you’re just so busy trying to get a rise. I expect eliciting emotional responses from others is how you make yourself feel good. At any rate, good luck with your judgments, assumptions and your Blind devotion to a man who exhibits some serious pathology. Honestly, I preferred him over Clinton too. But I went into it with few illusions of how he would be, and I don’t feel the need to make excuses for all his shortcomings.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 11:48 AM
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a reply to: pexx421

Don't know who you are talking about but since I never said, nor even implied any of those things I do believe you have just proven yourself to be a LIAR.

now find someone else to harass, you are boring me because I cannot discuss a topic with someone who makes things up out of thin air.

aka someone who lies



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 11:50 AM
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originally posted by: toolgal462
a reply to: pexx421

You need to get hold of yourself.

Your anger and superiority complex are showing.

That's why most people hate the Left.

All anger and temper tantrums and not a lick of common sense or self awareness.

Now go and clench your little fists and stomp your little feet and scream REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE at the sky and you will feel much better.


Come again? Wow.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 01:14 PM
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From 1955.

The Pseudo-Conservative Revolt

This is the modern day Trump supporter.

Its a long piece so I've just posted parts of it.



The pseudo-conservative, Adorno writes, shows “conventionality and authoritarian submissiveness” in his conscious thinking and “violence, anarchic impulses, and chaotic destructiveness in the unconscious sphere. . . . The pseudo conservative is a man who, in the name of upholding traditional American values and institutions and defending them against more or less fictitious dangers, consciously or unconsciously aims at their abolition.

Who is the pseudo-conservative, and what does he want? It is impossible to identify him by class, for the pseudo-conservative impulse can be found in practically all classes in society, although its power probably rests largely upon its appeal to the less educated members of the middle classes. The ideology of pseudo-conservatism can be characterized but not defined, because the pseudo-conservative tends to be more than ordinarily incoherent about politics. The lady who, when General Eisenhower’s victory over Senator Taft had finally become official, stalked out of the Hilton Hotel declaiming, “This means eight more years of socialism” was probably a fairly good representative of the pseudo-conservative mentality.

The restlessness, suspicion and fear manifested in various phases of the pseudo-conservative revolt give evidence of the real suffering which the pseudo-conservative experiences in his capacity as a citizen. He believes himself to be living in a world in which he is spied upon, plotted against, betrayed, and very likely destined for total ruin. He feels that his liberties have been arbitrarily and outrageously invaded. He is opposed to almost everything that has happened in American politics for the past twenty years. He hates the very thought of Franklin D. Roosevelt. He is disturbed deeply by American participation in the United Nations, which he can see only as a sinister organization. He sees his own country as being so weak that it is constantly about to fall victim to subversion; and yet he feels that it is so all-powerful that any failure it may experience in getting its way in the world — for instance, in the Orient — cannot possibly be due to its limitations but must be attributed to its having been betrayed.3 He is the most bitter of all our citizens about our involvement in the wars of the past, but seems the least concerned about avoiding the next one. While he naturally does not like Soviet communism, what distinguishes him from the rest of us who also dislike it is that he shows little interest in, is often indeed bitterly hostile to such realistic measures as might actually strengthen the United States vis-à-vis Russia. He wants to have nothing to do with the democratic nations of Western Europe, which seem to draw more of his ire than the Soviet Communists, and he is opposed to all “give-away programs” designed to aid and strengthen these nations. Indeed, he is likely to be antagonistic to most of the operations of our federal government except Congressional investigations, and to almost all of its expenditures.

I am aware, for instance, that wealthy reactionaries try to use pseudo-conservative organizers, spokesmen and groups to propagate their notions of public policy, and that some organizers of pseudo-conservative and “patriotic” groups often find in this work a means of making a living — thus turning a tendency toward paranoia into a vocational asset, probably one of the most perverse forms of occupational therapy known to man.

For there are among them a considerable number of the shabby genteel, of those who for one reason or another have lost their old objective positions in the life of business and politics and the professions, and who therefore cling with exceptional desperation to such remnants of their prestige as they can muster from their ancestors. These people, although very often quite well-to-do,feel that they have been pushed out of their rightful place in American life, even out of their neighborhoods. Most of them have been traditional Republicans by family inheritance, and they have felt themselves edged aside by the immigrants, the trade unions, and the urban machines in the past thirty years. When the immigrants were weak, these native elements used to indulge themselves in ethnic and religious snobberies at their expense.9 Now the immigrant groups have developed ample means, political and economic, of self-defense, and the second and third generations have become considerably more capable of looking out for themselves.Some of the old-family Americans have turned to find new objects for their resentment among liberals, left-wingers, intellectuals and the like — for in true pseudo-conservative fashion they relish weak victims and shrink from asserting themselves against the strong.

For pseudo-conservatism is among other things a disorder in relation to authority, characterized by an inability to find other modes for human relationship than those of more or less complete domination or submission. The pseudo-conservative always imagines himself to be dominated and imposed upon because he feels that he is not dominant and knows of no other way of interpreting his position.

Conformity is a way of guaranteeing and manifesting respectability among those who are not sure that they are respectable enough. The nonconformity of others appears to such persons as a frivolous challenge to the whole order of things they are trying so hard to become part of. Naturally it is resented, and the demand for conformity in public becomes at once an expression of such resentment and a means of displaying one’s own soundness. This habit has a tendency to spread from politics into intellectual and social spheres, where it can be made to challenge almost anyone whose pattern of life is different and who is imagined to enjoy a superior social position — notably, as one agitator put it, to the “parlors of the sophisticated, the intellectuals, the so-called academic minds.”

Thirdly, the long tenure in power of the liberal elements to which the pseudo-conservatives are most opposed and the wide variety of changes that have been introduced into our social, economic and administrative life have intensified the sense of powerlessness and victimization among the opponents of these changes and have widened the area of social issues over which they feel discontent. There has been, among other things, the emergence of a wholly new struggle: the conflict between businessmen of certain types and the New Deal bureaucracy, which has spilled over into a resentment of intellectuals and experts.

However, in a populistic culture like ours, which seems to lack a responsible elite with political and moral autonomy, and in which it is possible to exploit the wildest currents of public sentiment for private purposes, it is at least conceivable that a highly organized, vocal, active and well-financed minority could create a political climate in which the rational pursuit of our well-being and safety would become impossible.

edit on 29-1-2020 by Oblique9043 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 01:37 PM
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a reply to: Oblique9043

Leaves me out. Not a man. Not a conservative.

and nothing in that opinion piece has a damn thing to do with the subject matter.

ho hum....



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

What does the gender have to do with it? And the Pseudo Conservative isn't really a conservative either. So there goes those arguments.




As Dunning, a psychology professor at the University of Michigan, says, "If you're incompetent, you can't know you're incompetent... the skills you need to produce the right answer are the very same skills you need to recognize the right answer."

As Bertrand Russell said, "One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."

Or as my grandfather said, "The dumber you are, the more you think you know."

We all know people who do the same. They take a position and then proclaim and bluster and pontificate while totally disregarding differing opinions or points of view. They know they're right -- and they want you to know they're right.


This more accurate?



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 02:16 PM
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a reply to: network dude

“Leftist” here. I say take down the Biden’s, the trumps, the Clintons and the Obamas and Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence and Chuck Schumer and every other neoliberal shill doing NOTHING for the middle class.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: pneumatikoi
a reply to: network dude

“Leftist” here. I say take down the Biden’s, the trumps, the Clintons and the Obamas and Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell and Mike Pence and Chuck Schumer and every other neoliberal shill doing NOTHING for the middle class.



Okay, who is left? as in, what candidate do you like?

Bernie?

lol Ask him about Old Town News and get back to us.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

Sure I’ll speed-dial Bernie as soon as I’m off the phone with George Soros lol



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

wait wait wait are you talking about the “rape fantasy” article he wrote decades ago?

Got anything other than that? Your man Trump has over 30 actual rape accusers. Don’t pretend you care about that “rape fantasy” article if that’s the only point you’re gonna bring up.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 02:47 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

wait wait wait are you talking about the “rape fantasy” article he wrote decades ago?

Got anything other than that? Your man Trump has over 30 actual rape accusers. Don’t pretend you care about that “rape fantasy” article if that’s the only point you’re gonna bring up.



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: toolgal462

Everyone lies occasionally but Trump lies consistently .
www.politifact.com...

Sad his supporters don't see the problem with that.


The definition of an honest politician is that he tells you he lies all the time.




posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 03:21 PM
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originally posted by: pneumatikoi
a reply to: toolgal462

wait wait wait are you talking about the “rape fantasy” article he wrote decades ago?

Got anything other than that? Your man Trump has over 30 actual rape accusers. Don’t pretend you care about that “rape fantasy” article if that’s the only point you’re gonna bring up.


Why do I need to respond or bring up anything as you seem to be having a conversation all by yourself. I'll just leave you to that.

eta: you people are bats
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posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 03:28 PM
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a reply to: toolgal462

If this was a convo by myself you wouldn’t be responding. Also, what “people” are you looping me into as “bats”?



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 03:35 PM
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I wouldn’t bother. She just talks around circles constantly, never making points, denying things she’s said, being intentionally vague. I think she’s just a troll or something. And 75% of her texts are just vague general name calling of leftists. She joined the convo a page or two back and every other post is “leftists are like this... blah blah blah, everybody hates leftists blah blah. “



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: pneumatikoi

You "lefties" of which you self proclaimed.

And you sure as hell have been having a conversation with yourself

I mention Old Town News. And you go and talk to yourself about some rape fantasy.

again, you people are bats
edit on 29-1-2020 by toolgal462 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: pexx421

that's right, you lefties have a nice conversation with each other. Maybe go outside and have a nice, shared "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" at the sky!!



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 04:01 PM
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😆 I should know better than to feed the trolls!



posted on Jan, 29 2020 @ 05:45 PM
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a reply to: pneumatikoi

Who are obvious bandwagon hoppers with sick rape fantasy deviations themselves. Trump's accusers are deviants, especially that Julie whatever disgrace. No evidence offered, decades later, limelight chasers, etc

The rape fantasy writing is just that. Does the sick and gross nature of these types know no bounds?

All the same.




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