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Is a Smart Republican Too Much To Ask For?

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posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 09:50 PM
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originally posted by: JoseGarcia
a reply to: muzzleflash

I don't like some of his hyperbole.
I don't like some of his knee-jerk brashness.
I don't like that he's sometimes too sloppy & loose with his language in the wrong context.

In other words you don't like him for superficial reasons.

You don't have an issue with his policies, you just want someone nicer.

Just for clarification.



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 10:05 PM
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originally posted by: muzzleflash
Because no criticism is ever accepted I'm gonna have to say this is like a cult here worshipping a person.

I challenge any Trump supporter to point out one single thing they don't like about him - problem is you can't because he's beyond reproach now due to the Dem's witch hunts. So you feel obligated to protect the Admin at every last turn. This is how cult worship forms. Same thing happened to Obama's followers, they can't find it in them to criticize dear leader.... Ever.


You realize this same thing has been said many times on these forums and all it does is show you are completely out of touch with reality.

There is no cult of trump. Nobody thinks he is flawless and does no wrong. You would have to be deaf dumb and blind not to see he is flawed.

As I said before I vote based on actions, and track record, not someone’s style or ability to charm.
This is a good lesson for life by the way, people lie, Thier actions don’t.



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 10:28 PM
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originally posted by: booyakasha
it's all show.

I think we're going to see a world economic collapse soon.

Trump works for the bankers.

The Fed is printing trillions of dollars just to keep the illusion of a great economy so Trump can get reelected and put our country into even more debt.

nations of debt slaves.


What are you basing this accusation on?

It's so easy to make a statement like that. "So and So works for the elite" "So and So works for the bankers" "So and so is illuminati". What is harder to do, is to explain yourself. Why do you feel Trump "works" for the bankers? In what capacity? To what end?



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 10:53 PM
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a reply to: Admitted

So, let me get this straight.... I should vote for a Democrat so I can be robbed blind by taxes, lose my 401 K for a government social security 2 scheme, pay more to cover idiots who took out student loans for useless degrees, pay more to send idiots to overpriced college to get useless degrees, lose my firearms and right to self-defense, Pay more for energy due to some "green scheme" to make special people rich, become unable to speak my opinion without being prosecuted for hate speech (wrong think like saying there are men and women and that is a biological fact).

Robed of my prosperity, Robbed of my property, Robbed of free speech, and Robbed of my future.......

No thanks, I will vote Republican... Because I Have No Other Rational Choice.
edit on 25-1-2020 by infolurker because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 11:12 PM
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originally posted by: Admitted
Seems to be.

My political alliances are strongly on the Republican side. More Libertarian but...that's not a winner. The Democratic field this election year is garbage. Almost as bad as Hillary. I like Pete but he will never win. Bernie is ok but he is near to death. Amy Klobuchar is the best but she too, stands no chance.

I'm 90% certain Trump will win re-election. I can't understand why other than our much better 401k's. I feel he is great for our economy at the expense of ruining our democracy.

If Trump could do what he is doing without all the divisiveness. If he could just shut up and do what he is doing...I'd support him.

Is a smart Republican too much to ask for? Trump is no messiah. He isn't God. He isn't the chosen one.

I've voted red all my life until Trump. Now I vote out of spite. That's what he has gotten me, and a lot of our country.

I can't tolerate a liar and idiot representing me. I thought Bush was bad, and I voted for him, but I had no idea how bad it could be until Trump.

Can we not have an intelligent Republican? Someone who says what he means and does what he says? Someone who loves the country more than himself?

I guess not.


After trump won the first election I knew he would lose the next election. The democrats even being as stupid and childish as they are will win and here’s why. Trump barely won Florida he needs Florida to win hands down. That’s the game trump won’t get California or New York or Florida and that’s all folks. But if the Democrats run Biden they are basically handing the election to trump he’s as bad if not worse then Hillary. If Bernie Sanders runs on the dem ticket there are too many stupid socialist kids and young adults who would vote for him.

Ps Bernie wouldn’t get anything done and would basically be trump 2.0 Democrats version.



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 11:20 PM
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originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: JoseGarcia
a reply to: muzzleflash

I don't like some of his hyperbole.
I don't like some of his knee-jerk brashness.
I don't like that he's sometimes too sloppy & loose with his language in the wrong context.

In other words you don't like him for superficial reasons.

You don't have an issue with his policies, you just want someone nicer.

Just for clarification.


I think that's an accurate summary.

I've studied fathers & fathering all my life. He's made some big missteps. His spirituality has matured--evidently since Melania. They seem to have a great mutually bonded relationship. His kids think highly of him and love being with him, working with him.

In this age of epidemic Attachment Disorder, that's amazingly rare. And that carries a huge amount of weight, with me.

I don't consider him perfect, at all. But he's sure a lot closer than any other President I can think of.

I think highly of Franklin Graham. And deceased Chuck Missler. L.A. Marzulli.

And I like the commentary of folks like Sean H, Lou Dobbs, Tucker Carlson etc. And probably Lou Dobbs, I'd enjoy having a meal with.

But there just aren't many public figures that I highly respect & think they are top flight quality people in a list of key ways.

Trump IS one of them.

He walks his talk in a list of ways. He's about as real, congruent, down to earth, practical as I've seen in such a high level of leadership in any sphere.



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 11:23 PM
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originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: Admitted
Seems to be.

My political alliances are strongly on the Republican side. More Libertarian but...that's not a winner. The Democratic field this election year is garbage. Almost as bad as Hillary. I like Pete but he will never win. Bernie is ok but he is near to death. Amy Klobuchar is the best but she too, stands no chance.

I'm 90% certain Trump will win re-election. I can't understand why other than our much better 401k's. I feel he is great for our economy at the expense of ruining our democracy.

If Trump could do what he is doing without all the divisiveness. If he could just shut up and do what he is doing...I'd support him.

Is a smart Republican too much to ask for? Trump is no messiah. He isn't God. He isn't the chosen one.

I've voted red all my life until Trump. Now I vote out of spite. That's what he has gotten me, and a lot of our country.

I can't tolerate a liar and idiot representing me. I thought Bush was bad, and I voted for him, but I had no idea how bad it could be until Trump.

Can we not have an intelligent Republican? Someone who says what he means and does what he says? Someone who loves the country more than himself?

I guess not.


After trump won the first election I knew he would lose the next election. The democrats even being as stupid and childish as they are will win and here’s why. Trump barely won Florida he needs Florida to win hands down. That’s the game trump won’t get California or New York or Florida and that’s all folks. But if the Democrats run Biden they are basically handing the election to trump he’s as bad if not worse then Hillary. If Bernie Sanders runs on the dem ticket there are too many stupid socialist kids and young adults who would vote for him.

Ps Bernie wouldn’t get anything done and would basically be trump 2.0 Democrats version.


I don't recall reading many posts as irrational as this comes across to me.

And convoluted.

And preposterous.



posted on Jan, 25 2020 @ 11:42 PM
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originally posted by: proximo

originally posted by: muzzleflash
Because no criticism is ever accepted I'm gonna have to say this is like a cult here worshipping a person.

I challenge any Trump supporter to point out one single thing they don't like about him - problem is you can't because he's beyond reproach now due to the Dem's witch hunts. So you feel obligated to protect the Admin at every last turn. This is how cult worship forms. Same thing happened to Obama's followers, they can't find it in them to criticize dear leader.... Ever.


You realize this same thing has been said many times on these forums and all it does is show you are completely out of touch with reality.

There is no cult of trump. Nobody thinks he is flawless and does no wrong. You would have to be deaf dumb and blind not to see he is flawed.

This is one of the biggest mistakes the dems have made since Trump announced his running and HRC threw half of the country's voters in the "deplorable" body bag. There's a big difference between "support" and "worship". For reasons unknown, most of the real "smart" ones have yet to figure that out. Mentality like the OP and others in this thread do nothing but continue to alienate potential voters.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 12:16 AM
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the Fed gets more power the more debt they are owed. At this point Trump has printed more money than Obama during the bailouts. He is putting our country in even more debt with no end in sight to QE, bailouts, whatever you want to call it.

He is lying straight to everyones faces and everyone is buying it up. The democrats aren't even allowed to talk about our failing economy.

It's so insanely obvious at this point it hurts. We are going to keep printing money to keep the stock market propped up printing us into trillions more in debt inflating the US dollar and creating two tier society.

No more middle class, poor people, and super rich people, thats it.

It funny people think Presidents have power these days. Trump would be out of office so fast if he wasn't bending over for the bankers.

Here's a good speech from "Network One" that sums things up pretty well.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 12:19 AM
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a reply to: Admitted

All I can say here and be polite about it is, you're not thinking straight here fella.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 12:32 AM
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originally posted by: JoseGarcia

originally posted by: Veryolduser

originally posted by: Admitted
Seems to be.

My political alliances are strongly on the Republican side. More Libertarian but...that's not a winner. The Democratic field this election year is garbage. Almost as bad as Hillary. I like Pete but he will never win. Bernie is ok but he is near to death. Amy Klobuchar is the best but she too, stands no chance.

I'm 90% certain Trump will win re-election. I can't understand why other than our much better 401k's. I feel he is great for our economy at the expense of ruining our democracy.

If Trump could do what he is doing without all the divisiveness. If he could just shut up and do what he is doing...I'd support him.

Is a smart Republican too much to ask for? Trump is no messiah. He isn't God. He isn't the chosen one.

I've voted red all my life until Trump. Now I vote out of spite. That's what he has gotten me, and a lot of our country.

I can't tolerate a liar and idiot representing me. I thought Bush was bad, and I voted for him, but I had no idea how bad it could be until Trump.

Can we not have an intelligent Republican? Someone who says what he means and does what he says? Someone who loves the country more than himself?

I guess not.


After trump won the first election I knew he would lose the next election. The democrats even being as stupid and childish as they are will win and here’s why. Trump barely won Florida he needs Florida to win hands down. That’s the game trump won’t get California or New York or Florida and that’s all folks. But if the Democrats run Biden they are basically handing the election to trump he’s as bad if not worse then Hillary. If Bernie Sanders runs on the dem ticket there are too many stupid socialist kids and young adults who would vote for him.

Ps Bernie wouldn’t get anything done and would basically be trump 2.0 Democrats version.


I don't recall reading many posts as irrational as this comes across to me.

And convoluted.

And preposterous.


What’s irrational about it? That trump won’t win Florida? That Bernie Sanders isn’t liked by his own party and definitely not by republicans? Or that if Biden is the nominee that dems won’t show up for the polls in mass because he has no appeal?

There is nothing convoluted about everything I wrote it’s all pretty straightforward and nothing is preposterous.

The only preposterous thing might be that Bernie wouldn’t get anything done. Bernie can’t live up to his own standards regarding minimum wage with his own staffers.
By calling Bernie trump 2.0 I’m not making the assumption trump didn’t get anything done only that trump really isn’t that accepted by his own party and definitely not by dems. It would be the same for Bernie



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 12:33 AM
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a reply to: booyakasha

NOPE.

Trump has a meticulous plan to deal with the debt once & for all. In due course.

The Fed/oligarchy killed JFK. You'd like a repeat performance?

Trump is smarter than to telegraph his plan ahead of time more than he already has--which hasn't been much.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 01:06 AM
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a reply to: JoseGarcia

Yeah I'd love to believe that. It just seems like BS at the point.

Everything is a distraction to keep us from realizing that the economy is collapsing and life on earth will most likely drastically change because of it.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 01:21 AM
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originally posted by: booyakasha
a reply to: JoseGarcia

Yeah I'd love to believe that. It just seems like BS at the point.

Everything is a distraction to keep us from realizing that the economy is collapsing and life on earth will most likely drastically change because of it.


There are a number of conservative pundits who agree with you in part.

I don't.

One hint is Trump's executive order to confiscate the wealth of the child traffickers, traitors, big league criminals in one of his first executive orders.

It is said that ONE FAMILY of such has more than $400 TRILLION in wealth. The National Debt is considerably less than that.

Time will tell.

My money is on Trump being as effective on this issue as he has been on a long list of others. But there are a LOT of tasks that MUST be accomplished FIRST.

LOTS of ducks to get in a firm row.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 01:27 AM
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a reply to: JoseGarcia

I'll be the first to say, and have said many times, Trump is an arrogant asshat.

However, I'm able to put aside my personal feelings and look at the policies he represents and is enacting.

I'm glad you feel the same,
cheers mate



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 01:38 AM
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a reply to: [post=24894867]Admitted[/p unplug from Twitter and you will feel much better.



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 01:48 AM
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originally posted by: Vector99
a reply to: JoseGarcia

I'm glad you feel the same,
cheers mate


Thanks for your kind words.

However, I do not believe Trump is any level of asshat.

He is brash, sometimes obnoxious, hyperbolic, and brilliant at Sun Tzu strategies.

He could not succeed at soooo many wonderfully positive tasks, goals, projects if he was not so intensely dedicated to doing good for as many as possible & for the USA--particularly in the face of so much fierce 24/7/365 outrageous hostility from the MSM, academia, big corporations--e.g. Google, FB, Twitter, etc.;

He loves problem solving & is good at it. He loves making people's lives better and is good at it in a list of ways.

He loves cleaning out evil & evildoers in high places. That's taking longer but no surprise there. The Marxist globalist oligarchy has been in control & deeply entrenched for more than 100 years. Probably more than 150 years. Of course it will take considerable time to succeed at that.

I think few people pontificating have even read 1/4th of his accomplishments. Even GOP patriots can be ignorant or dismissive not realizing how extensive & substantive it is:



www.whitehouse.gov...



Almost 4 million jobs created since election.

More Americans are now employed than ever recorded before in our history.

We have created more than 400,000 manufacturing jobs since my election.

Manufacturing jobs growing at the fastest rate in more than THREE DECADES.

Economic growth last quarter hit 4.2 percent.

New unemployment claims recently hit a 49-year low.

Median household income has hit highest level ever recorded.

African-American unemployment has recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

Hispanic-American unemployment is at the lowest rate ever recorded.

Asian-American unemployment recently achieved the lowest rate ever recorded.

Women’s unemployment recently reached the lowest rate in 65 years.

Youth unemployment has recently hit the lowest rate in nearly half a century.

Lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma.

Under my Administration, veterans’ unemployment recently reached its lowest rate in nearly 20 years.

Almost 3.9 million Americans have been lifted off food stamps since the election.

The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans. We are committed to VOCATIONAL education.

95 percent of U.S. manufacturers are optimistic about the future—the highest ever.

Retail sales surged last month, up another 6 percent over last year.

Signed the biggest package of tax cuts and reforms in history. After tax cuts, over $300 billion poured back in to the U.S. in the first quarter alone.

As a result of our tax bill, small businesses will have the lowest top marginal tax rate in more than 80 years.

Helped win U.S. bid for the 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.

Helped win U.S.-Mexico-Canada’s united bid for 2026 World Cup.

Opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines.

Record number of regulations eliminated.

Enacted regulatory relief for community banks and credit unions.

Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE.

My Administration is providing more affordable healthcare options for Americans through association health plans and short-term duration plans.

Last month, the FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. And thanks to our efforts, many drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases.

We reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars this year alone.

Signed Right-To-Try legislation.

Secured $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic.

We have reduced high-dose opioid prescriptions by 16 percent during my first year in office.

Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act, expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care.

Increased our coal exports by 60 percent; U.S. oil production recently reached all-time high.

United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957.

Withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord.

Cancelled the illegal, anti-coal, so-called Clean Power Plan.

Secured record $700 billion in military funding; $716 billion next year.

NATO allies are spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016.

Process has begun to make the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces.

Confirmed more circuit court judges than any other new administration.

Confirmed Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh.

Withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal.

Moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem.

Protecting Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban,


Much Longer list:

www.magapill.com...


Below is an example of a ton of globalist evil goals that Trump is working hard to flush out & trash wholesale.

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Agenda 2030 Translator: How to Read the UN’s New Sustainable Development Goals
Aaron & Melissa Dykes

Aaron & Melissa Dykes Sep 25, 2015

It’s that time again: the United Nations is officially releasing the all new Agenda 2030 sustainable development plan, or what some have hailed as “the new Agenda 21 on steroids,” at the United Nations Sustainable Development Summit kicking off today in New York City.

a handy dandy translator on the> new Agenda 2030 goals below.

Goal 1: End poverty in all its forms everywhere
Translation: Centralized banks, IMF, World Bank, Fed to control all finances, digital one world currency in a cashless society

Goal 2: End hunger, achieve food security and improved nutrition and promote sustainable agriculture
Translation: GMO

Goal 3: Ensure healthy lives and promote well-being for all at all ages
Translation: Mass vaccination, Codex Alimentarius

Goal 4: Ensure inclusive and equitable quality education and promote lifelong learning opportunities for all
Translation: UN propaganda, brainwashing through compulsory education from cradle to grave

Goal 5: Achieve gender equality and empower all women and girls
Translation: Population control through forced “Family Planning”

Goal 6: Ensure availability and sustainable management of water and sanitation for all
Translation: Privatize all water sources, don’t forget to add fluoride

Goal 7: Ensure access to affordable, reliable, sustainable and modern energy for all
Translation: Smart grid with smart meters on everything, peak pricing

Goal 8: Promote sustained, inclusive and sustainable economic growth, full and productive employment and decent work for all

Translation: TPP, free trade zones that favor megacorporate interests

Goal 9: Build resilient infrastructure, promote inclusive and sustainable industrialization and foster innovation

Translation: Toll roads, push public transit, remove free travel, environmental restrictions...snip...

truthstreammedia.com...

edit on 2612020 by JoseGarcia because: addendum



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: Admitted


Yes , I to am waiting for Boys to MEN ..................(



posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 02:41 AM
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originally posted by: JoseGarcia
a reply to: muzzleflash

I don't like some of his hyperbole.
I don't like some of his knee-jerk brashness.
I don't like that he's sometimes too sloppy & loose with his language in the wrong context.

Then you most definitely would hate me.
I have a tendency to say exactly what is on my mind and exactly how it is.
No "punches" pulled.
And to hell with being "PC"

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posted on Jan, 26 2020 @ 04:33 AM
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Haha , not after the tea party/libertarian in name only took over. It screwed over my state hard. We lost Richard Lugar in the Senate and got Pence to wreck the state. 2010s opened my eyes to the bull the GOP are now. I had the unfortunate time of emailing the senator that now holds Richard Lugar’s seat and his email back was so full of lies and stupidity it would boggle the mid how he became a senator but then you remember the GOP party realignment in recent years. From his press briefs and twitter you would think his full time job is being the next RUDY instead of a senator from Indiana.



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