Use this weekend wisely

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: burntheships

Spread through the eyes ... as in you touch something contaminated and rub your eyes?

I read that info coming from the expert Dr. in China...

Chinese expert who came down with Wuhan coronavirus after saying it was controllable thinks he was infected through his eyes

Peking University respiratory specialist Wang Guangfa contracted illness after visiting the city and believes lack of eye protection may have been the cause

He defends his earlier comments that disease can be kept under control, but admits stronger measures may be needed

www.scmp.com...

a reply to: DougHole64

I’ve got the survival mask and spine growing covered .

I’m going with the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy advice .

Don’t panic and bring a towel (which I’ll pee on if need be ) .

BTW I would prefer not to have anything British in me . Lol

Except Douglas Adam’s sense of humor of course . 😎

a reply to: burntheships

It doesn't say what he was doing.

Was he seeing patients? So was he in close contact with them? If so, then he may have been coughed or sneezed on. The lachrymal duct carries tears from your eye to your nasal passage which is why you don't rub your eyes if you want to avoid any virus that infect your mucus membranes.

Eye protection and hygiene. Disposable gloves and sanitizer. If you must shop during the plague, I'd disinfect what you bring back too just to cover contaminated surfaces - so Clorox wipes.

a reply to: ketsuko

Wang said he had been trying to work out how he became infected after visiting fever clinics and temporary isolation wards in Wuhan.

“At that time we were highly vigilant and wore N95 masks,” he said. “But then I suddenly realised that we didn’t wear protective glasses.”

He said that after he returned to Beijing, his left eye developed conjunctivitis and two to three hours later he started to come down with a fever

I bought some glasses in case, since nearby health departments
are testing 10 or more people in my area.

a reply to: loam

Hi Loam.
Agreed that this one feels different.
Info had dried-up, and the numbers hadn't changed much for about 12 hours.
Just now the numbers have jumped-up again.
BNO News: Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline.-

There may be an information problem, either on purpose, or not.

They don't quarantine mega-cities, and block the roads with sand-piles and concrete blocks, for regular seasonal influenza...

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Yes absolutely my mojo is going off, this one will be a game changer. Think Wuhan, next city next city and so on. Modern society is flawed with regards to this type of disease. It cant take much disruption anyway, that's why it operates within tight restrictions with regards to laws, policing, traffic flow etc. A lot of us had an ominous feeling. if a controlled society like China cant stop it we will be in the same boat in a few weeks.

a reply to: anonentity

Get organized NOW imo
wear disposable gloves or Clean your hands and vehicle controls when you go out,avoid hand contact with your face
Get gas
Hope for the best,prepare for the worst.

a reply to: anonentity

if a controlled society like China cant stop it we will be in the same boat in a few weeks.

With the virus having a two week incubation period with little to no symptoms, some of us here at ATS may already be infected for all we know.

a reply to: FredT

Thank you. Yes. I saw your thread yesterday and subscribed to it. Great and convenient information in there. Thanks for that. It's a really good punch list.



Regarding the pretext, it's a hell of a pretext. To me, it seems his government is freaking out. That all by itself is reason for concern. He's made some remarkable admissions over the last 24 hours.

Regardless, the global impact is going to be major, even if no substantial new cases materialize outside of China. But I think it's wishful thinking that this is already over outside China's boarders.

As I've said, when the world's second largest economy takes this kind of acute hit, Europe and the US will definitely feel the pain.

Monday will be a very interesting day to watch closely.

a reply to: butcherguy

Hi BGee.
Have a gander at this map:
Don't knowthenameofthesite.

Look at the graphic in the lower left, to see the exponential rise in cases.
On the center map: zoom-in on China, to see how much this virus has spread-out from Wuhan, in just a few short days.
But what you're looking-at is the declared cases. They must have become infected 5-14 days ago.
So the original fanning-out of the virus, which is unknowable to us, must have spread-out at a similar rate, 5-14 days ago.
Figure-out how long it would have taken to go around the world, and it seems rather likely that is is everywhere by now.
Just a matter of time until we hear about it.

BTW: this map hasn't been updated in 9 hours.
The map in my post earlier on this page, has been updated to 56 deaths now. But it also went quiet for 8-9 hours today.

Stay healthy as possible, use some immune boosters and anti-virals.
Avoid exhaustion and dehydration.

This may sound silly after that post: but we should not let fear get the better of us.
Fear is natural, but too much upsets our body chemistry.
It is the way it is, and the world is full of potential dangers, yet we don't live in a state of panic.
So keep your spirits up.

a reply to: butcherguy

I keep seeing the nay sayers drawing a comparison to influenza and malaria. But malaria has minimal impact in the developed world and influenza has an R0 on the top side of 1.6.

It seems clear, this coronavirus has an R0 of at least 2.6 and some estimates predict much, much higher. The 1918 Spanish Flu was somewhere between 1.4 and 2.8.

That's pretty concerning.

Again, even if no substantial illness materializes outside China, what is happening there has the potential to affect nearly everyone in the developed world.

It's a waiting game now. Time will tell.

Im not believing the low death numbers China is spouting, not with the huge measures they are taking and a big hospital they just POPPED up.

Not for one second

And lets not forget this whole last year we had a rash of contaminated food FROM china making people sick.

a reply to: Nothin

Legacy media has been useless.

And I agree, the flow of social media info from China has definitely diminished in the past 18 or so hours. Just not sure if that's because of the Chinese government or a combination of people dealing with their personal issues and of course needing to sleep.

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
Are masks really going to help...unless you are the one who is sick and wearing it...in which case stay the hell at home.
abcnews.go.com...

N95's do with some caveats and I was willing to bet on them when we had the ebola scare and they trained us for transport purposes. The cheap crap is mainly to make you feel good

a reply to: FredT

Curious because I don't have a reasonable answer for this, but at what moment would you hunker down and not leave your home should it be clear a very real risk of exposure exists?

What tells would you look for?

Another key thing to think about.

They are building in a frenzy multiple thousand bed medical units, and quarantied 65 million people over 26 deaths?

Does that not compute to anyone else?

That would be like quarantining ALL of south Africa, THE WHOLE THING, when the Ebola outbreak happened, we didnt and there were VASTLY more deaths.

Were being lied to

a reply to: SailorJerry

People in China commenting those are really being built as makeshift morgues.

a reply to: loam

We are kinda due for a catastrophic world changer....

a reply to: Vasa Croe

Yes we are. I have often said from a historical perspective that our generation has been one of the luckiest in history.

Eventually, the odds sort themselves out.

originally posted by: loam
a reply to: FredT

Curious because I don't have a reasonable answer for this, but at what moment would you hunker down and not leave your home should it be clear a very real risk of exposure exists?

What tells would you look for?

I think by the time people start taking precautions, it will be too late.