Corona Virus Updates

How we getting on regarding that prediction chart posted a while back?

Anyone?
Thanks 👍🏻

originally posted by: ketsuko

So far, we've not heard of any transmission beyond that case of human to human in the US. That can and likely will change. But we've also not heard of serious illnesses or critical ones either in any of the domestic cases.

You know, I have heard that quite a few people across the USA have been battling with a lingering flu for quite a while now. Before I ever heard of and started following this particular coronavirus. Maybe this new virus has already been floating around in the USA for quite a while, and with it not being as severe as it has been in China, no one is really paying much attention to it. It's flu season, they are thinking, so what? Many people with it are just staying home, toughing it out, but some have gone to the doctor's office. Unless someone is tested specifically for this particular coronavirus, how would anyone know? Why would a test be run without the attending physician thinking there was a reason to do so?

So the USA might already be having it's epidemic from this. But no one has been paying attention to it. Have people suffering flu-like symptoms with no history of being in China or not having contact with anyone else who has, been tested?

Oh, almost forgot. Has there been any evidence to suggest that this coronavirus can be infectious directly through skin contact without secondary contact to mucus membranes? Any studies done to prove that it cannot? Might help explain the long incubation period while the virus cells migrate to the preferred areas of the body when they can multiply more readily and become symptomatic.

IMHO.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: khnum

I see your confusion on this. I looked into it and you are concerned about the oxygen absorption at 60 ghz. This has nothing to do with humans and is about the absorption of energy at this frequency by oxygen in the atmosphere.

This absorption makes the signals only able to travel a short range in air and has less interference from other devices in the same band. As this band is not able to penetrate the human body to any amount past the surface of the skin, I don’t see how warming up some nearby oxygen atoms in the air has to do with this possible pandemic.

"Deep penetration into the body

Another important fact about radiation from phased array antennas is this: it penetrates much deeper into the human body and the assumptions that the FCC’s exposure limits are based on do not apply. This was brought to everyone’s attention by Dr. Richard Albanese of Brooks Air Force Base in connection with PAVE PAWS and was reported on in Microwave News in 2002.[12] When an ordinary electromagnetic field enters the body, it causes charges to move and currents to flow. But when extremely short electromagnetic pulses enter the body, something else happens: the moving charges themselves become little antennas that re-radiate the electromagnetic field and send it deeper into the body. These re-radiated waves are called Brillouin precursors.[13] They become significant when either the power or the phase of the waves changes rapidly enough.[14] 5G will probably satisfy both requirements. This means that the reassurance we are being given—that these millimeter waves are too short to penetrate far into the body—is not true."

deep



5G


I am starting to think there are gatekeepers here at work.....such a BS comments about 5G safety....

Mass panic breaks out in Hong Kong over coronavirus outbreak

Over the weekend in Hong Kong, hundreds of people queued for hours to buy masks and immune-boosting products such as vitamin C.

At a major supermarket in the bustling Wan Chai district, counters selling chilled meat and seafood were empty by mid-morning on Friday and over the weekend, with stocks of fresh vegetables dwindling.

“Everybody is really worried. I think everyone is afraid of what is going to happen in the next few days. Prices are also going to rise,” said Cindy, a retail executive who was buying dry food and soap.

Dozens of mask-wearing shoppers pushed trolleys down empty aisles showing sold-out signs for hand wash and antiseptic liquids. Others tried to stock up on remaining bags of rice and packaged noodles.

The rush to buy food and cleaning products comes as some shoppers said they were concerned that a potential shutdown of the border would impact the supply of products.

The Hong Kong government has closed some border crossings, including the high-speed rail, but has stopped short of a complete shutdown, despite growing calls from medical workers, who plan a strike on Monday to demand action.

Another random thought.

I recall about a month or so ago on ATS, there was a thread to which several people contributed.

The theme was one that those who consider themselves psychically adept -- had a strong sensation that bad events were imminent. Wish I could find that thread now.

The other thread that pops to mind was the person who had a dream in which they were on the streets and people were dead all over, having died from a new disease.

ETA. Here are the ATS threads I mentioned.

Something Big

Dream about disease

Cheers

www.scmp.com...
Coronavirus: Thailand has apparent treatment success with antiviral drug cocktail

A Chinese woman infected with the new coronavirus showed a dramatic improvement after she was treated with a cocktail of antivirals used to treat flu and HIV, Thailand
’s health ministry said on Sunday.

The 71-year-old patient tested negative for the virus 48 hours after Thai doctors administered the combination, doctor Kriengsak Attipornwanich during the ministry’s daily press briefing.

“The lab result of positive on the coronavirus turned negative in 48 hours,” Kriengsak said.

“From being exhausted before, she could sit up in bed 12 hours later.”

a reply to: Kenzo

Basically what you are saying is that a beam antenna or an array has a stronger signal along the actual beam than a point source of radiation. That is why beam and array antennas are used. Nothing new there.

You are mostly water. Water is in part oxygen. There is more oxygen in your skin to shield you from the evil 60 GHz rays than in the air.

Can we get back to the actual discussion about the world wide problem developing here?

a reply to: FinallyAwake

im tracking it and its way off what was predicted but this is probably due to the fact that china is only reporting 2000 ish infections and 50 deaths per day.
my gut is that both a higher. I dont believe the virus is deadlier than say the flu. but I think its way more contagious so therefor will kill more

a reply to: Kenzo
Could you please start a new thread based upon this article?
www.edn.com...

originally posted by: FinallyAwake
How we getting on regarding that prediction chart posted a while back?

Anyone?
Thanks 👍🏻

Looks like this thing roughly doubles every 3 days in infection rate and deaths. Even if it just keeps on doing that prognosis is not good long-term at all.. I expect with the quarantine measures this should start to tail off soon.

originally posted by: kwakakev
Mass panic breaks out in Hong Kong over coronavirus outbreak

Over the weekend in Hong Kong, hundreds of people queued for hours to buy masks and immune-boosting products such as vitamin C.

At a major supermarket in the bustling Wan Chai district, counters selling chilled meat and seafood were empty by mid-morning on Friday and over the weekend, with stocks of fresh vegetables dwindling.

“Everybody is really worried. I think everyone is afraid of what is going to happen in the next few days. Prices are also going to rise,” said Cindy, a retail executive who was buying dry food and soap.

Dozens of mask-wearing shoppers pushed trolleys down empty aisles showing sold-out signs for hand wash and antiseptic liquids. Others tried to stock up on remaining bags of rice and packaged noodles.

The rush to buy food and cleaning products comes as some shoppers said they were concerned that a potential shutdown of the border would impact the supply of products.

The Hong Kong government has closed some border crossings, including the high-speed rail, but has stopped short of a complete shutdown, despite growing calls from medical workers, who plan a strike on Monday to demand action.

Hmm, I've mention my friend lives their with his Chinese wife on a thread here today. Nothing is happening as far as a panic situation goes. Yes, some border crossings are being closed, but from what I've been told, some people are being through. It's Monday here evening time and the airport there are flying out, but not to mainland China.

originally posted by: tarifa37

originally posted by: FinallyAwake
How we getting on regarding that prediction chart posted a while back?

Anyone?
Thanks 👍🏻

Looks like this thing roughly doubles every 3 days in infection rate and deaths. Even if it just keeps on doing that prognosis is not good long-term at all.. I expect with the quarantine measures this should start to tail off soon.

Let’s hope so. Personally I think the horse has bolted. But it’s good to remain positive. Dunno what the Chinese are panicking about really, it’s only the flu

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Yeah, welcome to the non-stop "I sense something bad is about to happen" carnival barker "psychic" acts. There are always people who claim every couple of months they dreamt of an earthquake or plague... it's considered poor form to rub their noses in the lengthy track records of utterly failed prophesies, so in that vein I say it is equally poor form to pimp them when they are lucky enough to stumble into the correct time frame. After all, a broken clock is right twice a day... that doesn't mean its worth anything, it's just a coincidental fact that plays off one of nature's many predictable cyclical events.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Maybe. But I understand your take on that subject.

Cheers

More to the virus than just getting sick and maybe dying !!
www.theepochtimes.com...
Virus Worries Wipe $420 Billion Off China’s Stock Market

SHANGHAI/HONG KONG—Investors erased $420 billion from China’s benchmark stock index on Monday, sold the yuan and dumped commodities as fears about the spreading coronavirus and its economic impact drove selling on the first day of trade in China since the Lunar New Year.

The market slide came even as the central bank poured cash in to the financial system despite apparent regulatory moves to curb selling.

By lunchtime, the benchmark Shanghai Composite index sat 8 percent lower near an almost one-year trough and poised to post its worst day in more than four years.

The yuan opened at its weakest level in 2020 and slid almost 1.2 percent, past the symbolic 7-per-dollar level, as the falls soured the mood in markets throughout Asia.

the 'chart' says we should be up at 50,000 today around 70,000 infected by tomorrow night. with a 1000 or so deaths.


the numbers don't really mean anything anymore because its beyond any doubt the numbers are completely disconnected from the reality on the ground. There's so many people quarantined in Wuhan, that are infected and are/were showing symptoms 10 days ago. They were sick, they were turned away and not tested, they went home and they died or survived... and infected others!

1000's of them...

The only thing that matters any more is the date. Every day that passes and there isn't a sudden half dozen random cases detected in our countries.. is a good thing. If random suburban types start rocking up with the virus, who have never been to China, then we've got a very big problem. That's the dooms day scenario!

Here's a 14 day chart from the 1st day of infection for the international arrivals.. if you clear the date and another week after that, id say we dodged a bullet.. somehow!


Nearly all of these, with the exception of Germany.. are Wuhan related. Nearly everyone of them flew on a plane too..

originally posted by: myselfaswell
a reply to: KindraLaBelle

I have yet to see a single report anywhere identifying anybody as anything, other than Citizenship and the fact they are humans.

I suspect all of the reported cases are Han Chinese.

If there is anything out there that I've missed, please let me know, thanks.

Let me copy/paste this from page 246. I was looking for the footage of the quarantined people, to confirm if they were Caucasian. Mateo96 said the footage was widespread, though I hadn't seen it anywhere popping up before... links below

originally posted by: KindraLaBelle

Links originally posted by: Mateo96
Oh, that's easy to find, it has been widely reported, they're indeed sunbathing and playing cards while the days go by.

www.canarias7.es...

www.youtube.com...


Thanks so much

Some ppl close to me keep saying that there is no proof of infections in other then Asian people. The one in the footage that is being quarantined alone is clearly white!
Glad that is the end of that debate!

Tests are negative for the European people who were evacuated by plane. First rumors were that 20 to 39 of them showed symptoms. This mornings press releases say they are not infected and probably just have flu or a cold

www.scmp.com...


(not sure if this was mentioned here before.... this treath is becoming chaotic, with same info and disinfo being posted several times!)

a reply to: Agit8dChop

I`m giving it about another week and if not significant increase in non China infections I`d say at least we have dodged the bullet.

And if a vaccine is made, I`m thinking long and hard on getting it. (I`m over half way wrinkly, on my way to a fossil.)

The gear mongering when it comes to this virus is getting pretty extreme. People to tell us that it's worse than what we are being told, and it has the potential to be worse than the Spanish flu!

Indications so far, is it is nowhere near as bad as that, and most healthy people clear it. I think this will be old news in a few months. I hope any way.