Cultural Enrichment strikes again. But it’s right wing extremists to blame?

a reply to: oloufo

so what is going on in germany?

Political gridlock? Is that why these practically useless GroKo governments are formed, apparently forever?

Cheers

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Do you believe that migrant rape and violence is more of a problem in Europe than right wing extremism?

Or are they on an equal par?

Please no gymnastics. Are they an equally pressing issue or is one more pressing than the other?
Is shouting racist words or harassing colored people just as ‘bad’ as organised rape gangs and murdering people in public, at Christmas, in front of their wife and kids? Or is it worse?

Can you even name a single ‘right wing extremist’ crime that occurred in any month of last year in Europe?
Can you name hundreds and hundreds of incidents of ‘right wing extremism’ over the same period?

Poor migrants. They just want to integrate and be productive members of society. We shouldn’t be pointing the finger at them. Merkel deserves respect.

Its far more complicated than that, migrant crime is certainly increasing in Europe and is a problem no doubt, however all crime is an issue and goverment needs to deal with it.

Profiling people because of the way they look is a sure fire to dystopia.

Even though there is almost NO ‘right wing extremist’ crime in Germany. It’s an issue they need to be dealing with.

Before they tackle islamic rape and murder epidemics they need to get rid of people who shout racist remarks at strangers.

Or people with black jack boots and shaved heads? Or is that profiling?


The way they look is meaningless
It’s what the BELIEVE that matters.
And every Muslim BELIEVES the quran and the words of mohammed.

If nazism is banned, why is islam not also banned?
A hateful intolerant ideology is a hateful intolerant ideology.

google NSU. right wing extremists are still murdering people. last year a politican was shoot by an neonazi.

Oh.

So not dozens of murders, hundreds and hundreds of violent incidents and attacks and thousands of rapes?

Exactly what I’ve been saying.

When the specific issue of migrant crime, a very very pressing issue in Germany, was raised. Why THE HELL???? would one respond by saying ‘we have set up groups to combat right wing extremism’???

When, according to the google results of NSU, right wing extremism PALES in comparison to islamic and migrant rape and violent crime epidemics.

Merkel is disgusting

The fricken NSU. Yeah what a massive threat.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

It’s very very minor when compared to the real issues they face, which you personally have claimed not to exist at all in Europe.

The rise in islamic migrants is directly relatable to the rise in rapes, murders and violence in Europe over the last four years. That’s undeniable.

But, let’s focus on right wing extremism. Because that’s the real problem!

And you told us this in such broad terms that they are undeniable, because they are unverfieable.

Which country? Which year? Data!

Because I tell you this, in the same unferred, serious and determined way: There is no evidence of a rise in rape, murder or violence in Europe correlated to an increase in moslemic citizens or fugitives or refuges or immigrants! And I live in Europe.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Breakthestreak

She clearly stated her governments job is to curb all forms of violence. Are you saying right wing extremism doesn't exist or isn't important ?

She was asked a question about migrant violence, and responded saying she wants to curb all violence and then focused on right wing extremism and did not address the actual question at all.

Imagine if when Puerto Rico was hit by the hurricane and someone asked Trump what he would do to help, he said he wanted to help everyone and then went on to talk about how he is focused on helping Alaskans. Everyone would attack him, and rightfully so. You and the liberals would never ever say "Well Trump wants to help everyone, question answered, move on."

a reply to: ManFromEurope

Sweden has seen a surge in these crimes. Most of the people convicted are foreign born.

About 58% of men convicted in Sweden of rape and attempted rape over the past five years were born abroad, according to data from Swedish national TV.

www.bbc.com...

That means 14% of the population is doing almost 60% of the raping. But no, you are right, they are not tied together at all.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Do you believe that migrant rape and violence is more of a problem in Europe than right wing extremism?

Or are they on an equal par?

Please no gymnastics. Are they an equally pressing issue or is one more pressing than the other?
Is shouting racist words or harassing colored people just as ‘bad’ as organised rape gangs and murdering people in public, at Christmas, in front of their wife and kids? Or is it worse?

Can you even name a single ‘right wing extremist’ crime that occurred in any month of last year in Europe?
Can you name hundreds and hundreds of incidents of ‘right wing extremism’ over the same period?

Poor migrants. They just want to integrate and be productive members of society. We shouldn’t be pointing the finger at them. Merkel deserves respect.

Its far more complicated than that, migrant crime is certainly increasing in Europe and is a problem no doubt, however all crime is an issue and goverment needs to deal with it.

Profiling people because of the way they look is a sure fire to dystopia.

Even though there is almost NO ‘right wing extremist’ crime in Germany. It’s an issue they need to be dealing with.

Before they tackle islamic rape and murder epidemics they need to get rid of people who shout racist remarks at strangers.

Or people with black jack boots and shaved heads? Or is that profiling?


The way they look is meaningless
It’s what the BELIEVE that matters.
And every Muslim BELIEVES the quran and the words of mohammed.

If nazism is banned, why is islam not also banned?
A hateful intolerant ideology is a hateful intolerant ideology.

google NSU. right wing extremists are still murdering people. last year a politican was shoot by an neonazi.

Oh.

So not dozens of murders, hundreds and hundreds of violent incidents and attacks and thousands of rapes?

Exactly what I’ve been saying.

When the specific issue of migrant crime, a very very pressing issue in Germany, was raised. Why THE HELL???? would one respond by saying ‘we have set up groups to combat right wing extremism’???

When, according to the google results of NSU, right wing extremism PALES in comparison to islamic and migrant rape and violent crime epidemics.

Merkel is disgusting

The fricken NSU. Yeah what a massive threat.

i would like to understand why some people talk down right-wing terror? in germany there are daily attacks of right-wing radicals against people who oppose right-wing extremism. the murder rate in germany is lower than 20 years ago. we hate nazis. and the 6% of muslims are normal citizens. there is no question that there are islamic radicals - unfortunately there are extremists on all sides.

a reply to: oloufo

I don't see anyone talking anything down other than migrant/muslim crime. They are 2 different subjects, when the question is what are you doing about migrant crime, the answer should never be about right wing crime.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Breakthestreak

Well, to be fair. Muslim extremists are right wing extremists.

I actually agree with what you said here. They are very right wing based on their teachings of the Muslim societies they came from.

% Muslims in Germany = approximately 5.5%
% German prisoners Muslim = approximately 20%

% Muslims in UK = approximately 5%
% UK prisoners Muslim = approximately 15%

% Muslim in France = approximately 12%
% French prisoners Muslim = approximately 60%

% Muslims in Belgium = approximately 6%
% Belgian prisoners Muslim = approximately 45%

% Muslims in The Netherlands = approximately 5.5%
% Dutch prisoners Muslim = approximately 20%

Obviously these figures vary slightly according to source but they are all around about the same level regardless of source.

Just for the record;

% Muslims in USA =approximately 0.8%
% US prisoners Muslim = approximately 9%

Coincidence?

a reply to: rickymouse

Not sure if Islam could be considered 'Right-Wing' or 'Left-Wing' - don't get the American obsession with political labels but that's another issue - but it certainly is authoritarian and is diametrically opposed to ideas such as democracy, free speech, freedom of opinion or religious belief.
It is the antithesis of liberty.

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Do you believe that migrant rape and violence is more of a problem in Europe than right wing extremism?

Or are they on an equal par?

Please no gymnastics. Are they an equally pressing issue or is one more pressing than the other?
Is shouting racist words or harassing colored people just as ‘bad’ as organised rape gangs and murdering people in public, at Christmas, in front of their wife and kids? Or is it worse?

Can you even name a single ‘right wing extremist’ crime that occurred in any month of last year in Europe?
Can you name hundreds and hundreds of incidents of ‘right wing extremism’ over the same period?

Poor migrants. They just want to integrate and be productive members of society. We shouldn’t be pointing the finger at them. Merkel deserves respect.

Its far more complicated than that, migrant crime is certainly increasing in Europe and is a problem no doubt, however all crime is an issue and goverment needs to deal with it.

Profiling people because of the way they look is a sure fire to dystopia.

Even though there is almost NO ‘right wing extremist’ crime in Germany. It’s an issue they need to be dealing with.

Before they tackle islamic rape and murder epidemics they need to get rid of people who shout racist remarks at strangers.

Or people with black jack boots and shaved heads? Or is that profiling?


The way they look is meaningless
It’s what the BELIEVE that matters.
And every Muslim BELIEVES the quran and the words of mohammed.

If nazism is banned, why is islam not also banned?
A hateful intolerant ideology is a hateful intolerant ideology.

google NSU. right wing extremists are still murdering people. last year a politican was shoot by an neonazi.

Oh.

So not dozens of murders, hundreds and hundreds of violent incidents and attacks and thousands of rapes?

Exactly what I’ve been saying.

When the specific issue of migrant crime, a very very pressing issue in Germany, was raised. Why THE HELL???? would one respond by saying ‘we have set up groups to combat right wing extremism’???

When, according to the google results of NSU, right wing extremism PALES in comparison to islamic and migrant rape and violent crime epidemics.

Merkel is disgusting

The fricken NSU. Yeah what a massive threat.

At this point if you're not living in Europe just kick back and watch the fall, and remember that they asked for it.

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Do you believe that migrant rape and violence is more of a problem in Europe than right wing extremism?

Or are they on an equal par?

Please no gymnastics. Are they an equally pressing issue or is one more pressing than the other?
Is shouting racist words or harassing colored people just as ‘bad’ as organised rape gangs and murdering people in public, at Christmas, in front of their wife and kids? Or is it worse?

Can you even name a single ‘right wing extremist’ crime that occurred in any month of last year in Europe?
Can you name hundreds and hundreds of incidents of ‘right wing extremism’ over the same period?

Poor migrants. They just want to integrate and be productive members of society. We shouldn’t be pointing the finger at them. Merkel deserves respect.

Its far more complicated than that, migrant crime is certainly increasing in Europe and is a problem no doubt, however all crime is an issue and goverment needs to deal with it.

Profiling people because of the way they look is a sure fire to dystopia.

Even though there is almost NO ‘right wing extremist’ crime in Germany. It’s an issue they need to be dealing with.

Before they tackle islamic rape and murder epidemics they need to get rid of people who shout racist remarks at strangers.

Or people with black jack boots and shaved heads? Or is that profiling?


The way they look is meaningless
It’s what the BELIEVE that matters.
And every Muslim BELIEVES the quran and the words of mohammed.

If nazism is banned, why is islam not also banned?
A hateful intolerant ideology is a hateful intolerant ideology.

google NSU. right wing extremists are still murdering people. last year a politican was shoot by an neonazi.

Oh.

So not dozens of murders, hundreds and hundreds of violent incidents and attacks and thousands of rapes?

Exactly what I’ve been saying.

When the specific issue of migrant crime, a very very pressing issue in Germany, was raised. Why THE HELL???? would one respond by saying ‘we have set up groups to combat right wing extremism’???

When, according to the google results of NSU, right wing extremism PALES in comparison to islamic and migrant rape and violent crime epidemics.

Merkel is disgusting

The fricken NSU. Yeah what a massive threat.

i would like to understand why some people talk down right-wing terror? in germany there are daily attacks of right-wing radicals against people who oppose right-wing extremism. the murder rate in germany is lower than 20 years ago. we hate nazis. and the 6% of muslims are normal citizens. there is no question that there are islamic radicals - unfortunately there are extremists on all sides.

Can you link some info on these daily attacks? Just link some info to the last 5-6 that happened in the past week. According to you there's been 7 right wing extremist attacks since last Wednesday so it shouldn't be hard

originally posted by: madmac5150

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: madmac5150
Europe's cultural identity is at stake. Every European nation, is suffering the consequences of unchecked Islamic immigration. (Unchecked, and un-vetted)

That is fact.

The news reports don't lie. Extremist Islamic migrants are importing violence all over Europe... the Brits are smart, for Brexit... because, they get it...

No rise in rapes in Poland.

Funny that.

They mustn’t have ‘right wing extremists’ there.

or... far fewer Islamic immigrants...

You just don't get it. The rise in Migrants has NOTHING to do with the rise in crime. It's all the Native Germans Fault for being in the way of Progress.

Honestly, how does Merkel stay in power? Is there no opposition.

originally posted by: madmac5150
Europe's cultural identity is at stake. Every European nation, is suffering the consequences of unchecked Islamic immigration. (Unchecked, and un-vetted)

That is fact.

The news reports don't lie. Extremist Islamic migrants are importing violence all over Europe... the Brits are smart for Brexit... because, they get it...

The thing is that most people that i know that voted for Brexit didn't do it because of migration - it was simply to take back control of our own laws and sovereignty. We joined an economic community and next thing we knew (in Britain specifically, not the rest of Europe) we were in a socio-economic-political club, not what we had voted to join initially.

Immigration is a big issue in Britain, true. However, it is isn't solely about where migrants come from. It is far more to do with us being a small island nation with already creaking resources.

Wahhabism is an issue for Europe but Islam itself, not so much. You have to bear in mind that Europe has been dealing directly with Islam since the 7th Century AD and, even during the Crusades, there were friendly relations with various Islamic states.

a reply to: Tekner

Depends who you mean by "They'.

Because if you look around at the poles and shifting tide you will see that "they" the public did not actually ask for any of it and are voting against it.

Maybe when you say "they" you mean media or governments??

originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Tekner

Depends who you mean by "They'.

Because if you look around at the poles and shifting tide you will see that "they" the public did not actually ask for any of it and are voting against it.

Maybe when you say "they" you mean media or governments??

Well there's real life citizens of European countries right in this thread defending or deflecting against migrant crime and I doubt they are the only ones. I'm just waiting until there's enough migrants to start voting for islam in their host countries, then we can see how actual sharia law zones work for them.

originally posted by: Tekner

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Do you believe that migrant rape and violence is more of a problem in Europe than right wing extremism?

Or are they on an equal par?

Please no gymnastics. Are they an equally pressing issue or is one more pressing than the other?
Is shouting racist words or harassing colored people just as ‘bad’ as organised rape gangs and murdering people in public, at Christmas, in front of their wife and kids? Or is it worse?

Can you even name a single ‘right wing extremist’ crime that occurred in any month of last year in Europe?
Can you name hundreds and hundreds of incidents of ‘right wing extremism’ over the same period?

Poor migrants. They just want to integrate and be productive members of society. We shouldn’t be pointing the finger at them. Merkel deserves respect.

Its far more complicated than that, migrant crime is certainly increasing in Europe and is a problem no doubt, however all crime is an issue and goverment needs to deal with it.

Profiling people because of the way they look is a sure fire to dystopia.

Even though there is almost NO ‘right wing extremist’ crime in Germany. It’s an issue they need to be dealing with.

Before they tackle islamic rape and murder epidemics they need to get rid of people who shout racist remarks at strangers.

Or people with black jack boots and shaved heads? Or is that profiling?


The way they look is meaningless
It’s what the BELIEVE that matters.
And every Muslim BELIEVES the quran and the words of mohammed.

If nazism is banned, why is islam not also banned?
A hateful intolerant ideology is a hateful intolerant ideology.

google NSU. right wing extremists are still murdering people. last year a politican was shoot by an neonazi.

Oh.

So not dozens of murders, hundreds and hundreds of violent incidents and attacks and thousands of rapes?

Exactly what I’ve been saying.

When the specific issue of migrant crime, a very very pressing issue in Germany, was raised. Why THE HELL???? would one respond by saying ‘we have set up groups to combat right wing extremism’???

When, according to the google results of NSU, right wing extremism PALES in comparison to islamic and migrant rape and violent crime epidemics.

Merkel is disgusting

The fricken NSU. Yeah what a massive threat.

i would like to understand why some people talk down right-wing terror? in germany there are daily attacks of right-wing radicals against people who oppose right-wing extremism. the murder rate in germany is lower than 20 years ago. we hate nazis. and the 6% of muslims are normal citizens. there is no question that there are islamic radicals - unfortunately there are extremists on all sides.

Can you link some info on these daily attacks? Just link some info to the last 5-6 that happened in the past week. According to you there's been 7 right wing extremist attacks since last Wednesday so it shouldn't be hard

In the first half of the year 2018, the authorities recorded 8605 right-wing extremist crimes nationwide, including 363 violent crimes. According to the ministry, 179 people were injured. Thus, the number of criminal offences has increased by 900 cases in the comparison period, but the reported violent offences remained at almost the same level.

tagesschau.de

a reply to: oloufo

And you’re saying that right wing extremism is MORE pressing than migrant/islamic rape epidemic and violence??????


So much so that when a SPECIFIC question is asked about migrant crime, the answer must be “we are combatting right wing extremism” ?????

No wonder “the left” is failing

originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: oloufo

And you’re saying that right wing extremism is MORE pressing than migrant/islamic rape epidemic and violence??????


So much so that when a SPECIFIC question is asked about migrant crime, the answer must be “we are combatting right wing extremism” ?????

No wonder “the left” is failing

According to the report for 2019 there were 10,511 suspects with the status of "international/national beneficiaries of protection and asylum". Since there are 550,411 recognized asylum seekers in Germany, this corresponds to a percentage of 1.9%. The overall average, however, is 2.57%.

BKA Statistik

a reply to: oloufo

Overall this group was 15% of the total 2,971 suspects linked to these crimes in Germany last year.

Overall crime in Germany has fallen to the lowest level since 1992, but there has been an increase in migrant crime.

Since 2014, the proportion of non-German suspects in the crime statistics has increased from 24% to just over 30% (when we take out crimes related to immigration and asylum irregularities).

Breaking that down even further, in 2017 those classified as "asylum applicants or civil war refugees or illegal immigrants" represented a total of 8.5% of all suspects.

This is despite their population representing just 2% of Germany as a whole.

www.bbc.com...
Immigrants are 2% of the population, 15% of suspects linked to violent crimes.


Good thing she changed the subject, nothing to see here.