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Equality for all - Draft Everyone
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a reply to: JAGStorm
Did you start this thread due to the Selective Service (Military Draft) website going down today, due to so many people wanting to volunteer?
SS Website Crashes: abcnews.go.com...
Did you start this thread due to the Selective Service (Military Draft) website going down today, due to so many people wanting to volunteer?
SS Website Crashes: abcnews.go.com...
originally posted by: CthruU
originally posted by: silo13
originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: JAGStorm
Seriously, you have issues with no respect for human rights.
No one and i mean no one should be forced to kill if unwilling.
End of story.
Calm down Simba.
Just because you're drafted doesn't mean you have to fight.
LOTS of other jobs to do.
So all draftees don't learn weapons training and aren't expected to pick up arms if the need arises ?????
Please, get a idea.
Get an idea?
Ok - how about this one? Not everyone who is drafted will even leave the States much less go into hand to hand combat.
Of course all recruits will go through weapons training - and - if the US gets attacked on Her own soil? They'll be glad of it!
As for me? This goes much farther and I'll enlist - if I can get them to take me.
If Democrats are elected to run the government, there will be a drafting of citizens to the new "Disarmament" branch of service. They will be trained
to go door-to-door, confiscating all guns.
a reply to: JAGStorm
I don't agree, I am 42 years old with 1 year old twins, a 7 year old daughter, and 3 older kids. I don't think we need a draft just yet. I don't see this war going anywhere to the point where people have to be drafted. I don't agree with you on this.
I don't agree, I am 42 years old with 1 year old twins, a 7 year old daughter, and 3 older kids. I don't think we need a draft just yet. I don't see this war going anywhere to the point where people have to be drafted. I don't agree with you on this.
originally posted by: silo13
originally posted by: CthruU
originally posted by: silo13
originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: JAGStorm
Seriously, you have issues with no respect for human rights.
No one and i mean no one should be forced to kill if unwilling.
End of story.
Calm down Simba.
Just because you're drafted doesn't mean you have to fight.
LOTS of other jobs to do.
So all draftees don't learn weapons training and aren't expected to pick up arms if the need arises ?????
Please, get a idea.
Get an idea?
Ok - how about this one? Not everyone who is drafted will even leave the States much less go into hand to hand combat.
Of course all recruits will go through weapons training - and - if the US gets attacked on Her own soil? They'll be glad of it!
As for me? This goes much farther and I'll enlist - if I can get them to take me.
Very Nobel of you and its your right to do what you want to do.
But -
A draft robs the draftees of that very same right, does it not - just accept alot of people just won't kill. It doesn't sit right with them.
Desmond Doss - Hacksaw Ridge movie, this is how the people forced to enlist who won't kill are treated.
And fair enough not all draftees will leave the states but lets be clear the vast majority certainly will.
a reply to: JAGStorm
LMAO, isn't it hilarious how equality drumbeats, specifically feminism ones, go deathly silent when an across the board draft is brought up? Like they're kinda clearly saying, "Erm, we want equality, as in preferential treatment, all the ex's money and property, and the ability to sue our way into jobs, or sue our way into shopping money if someone looks at the boobs I have hanging out of my V-cut shirt, not equality in soldier work!"
As it stands, I'm all for letting people try their damnedest at unchanged equal tests in the military to get where they want/hope to go. I'm not pro-draft, though, there's no honor or respect in winning something with what is effectively unwilling slaves doing the dirty work.
LMAO, isn't it hilarious how equality drumbeats, specifically feminism ones, go deathly silent when an across the board draft is brought up? Like they're kinda clearly saying, "Erm, we want equality, as in preferential treatment, all the ex's money and property, and the ability to sue our way into jobs, or sue our way into shopping money if someone looks at the boobs I have hanging out of my V-cut shirt, not equality in soldier work!"
As it stands, I'm all for letting people try their damnedest at unchanged equal tests in the military to get where they want/hope to go. I'm not pro-draft, though, there's no honor or respect in winning something with what is effectively unwilling slaves doing the dirty work.
edit on
1/5/2020 by Nyiah because: (no reason given)
a reply to: JAGStorm
Israel has women in front line service.
They're bullet magnets. When a female soldier is under fire the men all go into big brotherfather figure mode and protect her even if she's in cover and they're out in the open. It's a natural instinct, and the people doing the shooting know it. So they double down.
Israel has women in front line service.
They're bullet magnets. When a female soldier is under fire the men all go into big brotherfather figure mode and protect her even if she's in cover and they're out in the open. It's a natural instinct, and the people doing the shooting know it. So they double down.
originally posted by: CthruU
originally posted by: Sookiechacha
originally posted by: JAGStorm
originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: JAGStorm
Seriously, you have issues with no respect for human rights.
No one and i mean no one should be forced to kill if unwilling.
End of story.
I have total respect for human rights. So much so, that I don't think it should just be young men that
have to do this!
All or nothing!
So...LGBTQ too?
Definitely not them - they'll spend to much time in the bunkers and trenches entertaining themselves.
But these days some like to add the 'P' for pedophile and for them yes draft em all and use them for landmine clearing.
I'm pretty sure that many of the die hard "heterosexuals" would be there. Dominating the trenches just like in prison
originally posted by: JAGStorm
I don't think I have ever seen so much comedic material as I have the last few days regarding what would
happen if the draft was issued.
I say if there is a war, EQUALITY for all. Everyone is suitable for the draft! Everyone... absolutely everyone.
I don't care what you call yourself, or don't, if you've got blood flowing, you're game. Yes that is for women too.
I say lift the age requirements too. Send some old folks in there too. Everyone wants equality right????... except when they don't!
If you are rich, too bad, you're going. Let's start with Lori Loughlin's kids, send them over.
Disabled, tough! If you got a good arm, or leg, or eyeball, surely there is something you can help with.
Need an emotional support animal? Bring em' along! Kids, they are game! Some of these munchkins can code better than adults. They can
be war corespondents!
Wonder if all the people who called Trump "bone spurs" will now be attempting to dodge the draft themselves?
a reply to: JAGStorm
I have noticed the biggest supporters of equality in our societies don't talk about or don't support National Service/Draft. Arguably, one of the greatest sources of inequality in the postwar period is the outsourcing of warfighting to less than 25% of Australia and New Zealand populations. I don't view this as a stand-alone argument for the return of National Service.
Do arguments exist for the return of voluntary National Service in Australia and New Zealand?
In Australia firefighting (combating bushfires and the effects of Climate change, adjusting the military to meet Australia's declining strategic outlook are reasons advanced by John Blaxland ).
In New Zealand: I support the introduction of voluntary National Service to rebuild the New Zealand Defence Force's drained personnel numbers. This leaves the question of people who are not medically eligible or unsuited for military service. Opportunities to serve in a Kiwi version of the PeaceCorps ensures inequalities in National Service are smoothed out.
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.
I have noticed the biggest supporters of equality in our societies don't talk about or don't support National Service/Draft. Arguably, one of the greatest sources of inequality in the postwar period is the outsourcing of warfighting to less than 25% of Australia and New Zealand populations. I don't view this as a stand-alone argument for the return of National Service.
Do arguments exist for the return of voluntary National Service in Australia and New Zealand?
In Australia firefighting (combating bushfires and the effects of Climate change, adjusting the military to meet Australia's declining strategic outlook are reasons advanced by John Blaxland ).
In New Zealand: I support the introduction of voluntary National Service to rebuild the New Zealand Defence Force's drained personnel numbers. This leaves the question of people who are not medically eligible or unsuited for military service. Opportunities to serve in a Kiwi version of the PeaceCorps ensures inequalities in National Service are smoothed out.
As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
edit on 7-1-2020 by xpert11 because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: carewemust
If Democrats are elected to run the government, there will be a drafting of citizens to the new "Disarmament" branch of service. They will be trained to go door-to-door, confiscating all guns.
The upside would be they would have to have some firearm safety training (do not look into the barrel while pulling the trigger mechanism to check if loaded)..The Democrats of old could/would fight in an international war; those in this day and age fight and win wars domestically through crippling and impoverishing people with hopelessness. Its insidious. Its a forced enslavement to a failed idea (socialism).
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
originally posted by: Lysergic
Does a ribald hilarious demeaning and universally understood Marine Corp joke even exist ? Why don't YOU tell one instead and distinguish yourself with the first one ever told on this forum?
originally posted by: Lysergic
Lysergic: Why can't we just send the droids or get some clones?
AaarghZombies: Insert Marine Corp joke here.
Does a ribald hilarious demeaning and universally understood Marine Corp joke even exist ? Why don't YOU tell one instead and distinguish yourself with the first one ever told on this forum?
edit on 7-1-2020 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)
remember how, not long ago, there was a whole furor about how trans people shouldn't be allowed in the military? all sorts of boneheaded allegations
about the quality and ability of lgbt people everywhere, all "the only perverts in the military should be hetersexual ones!" all over the place
how quickly the tune changes the moment there's some uncertainty and risk!
now it's suddenly about what those utter ingrates who dare ask for equal treatment can do for you and how you can turn people you hate into shields to hide behind.
how does it feel to be such ABJECT cowards?
how do you stop your heads spinning from that sort of hypocrisy?
how quickly the tune changes the moment there's some uncertainty and risk!
now it's suddenly about what those utter ingrates who dare ask for equal treatment can do for you and how you can turn people you hate into shields to hide behind.
how does it feel to be such ABJECT cowards?
how do you stop your heads spinning from that sort of hypocrisy?
Maybe only people whom vote should be drafted ?
Is voting not also supporting the political-MIC system, blood-for-oil, and the nation's foreign-policy ?
Is voting not also supporting the political-MIC system, blood-for-oil, and the nation's foreign-policy ?
People panicking over a draft. We are nowhere near the point of that occurring. As for it I agree should be everyone. Feel free to draft me, they
will not take me though. They turned me down due to lack of taping out when I was 18. No way I am taping out now that I am 40 lol.
originally posted by: Nothin
Maybe only people whom vote should be drafted ?
Is voting not also supporting the political-MIC system, blood-for-oil, and the nation's foreign-policy ?
Do not think that the act of 'voting' goes UNPUNISHED. By doing so you have put yourself into the endless harassment of the Jury Pool system of your county.
a reply to: vethumanbeing
Oh nooes !
Then one would have to potentially support the judicial system as well ?
So possibly responsible for imprisoning potential innocent people, as well as murdering innocent foreigners ?
Oh nooes !
Then one would have to potentially support the judicial system as well ?
So possibly responsible for imprisoning potential innocent people, as well as murdering innocent foreigners ?
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