Two T-38s down in Oklahoma

a reply to: glib2

I was thinking takeoff, with it happening that early. We usually didn't see them get to Dyess from Vance until around 10 to start their pattern work.

It was a formation landing with an instructor and student killed.

The Air Force has identified the two airmen killed in a training accident on Thursday as Lt. Col John "Matt" Kincade, 47, and 2nd Lt. Travis B. Wilkie, 23.

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a reply to: Zaphod58

Respects.
Don't they usually give the families a little longer before disclosing the fatalities?

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a reply to: Slichter

Names are usually released 24 hours after notification of the next of kin. Sometimes they wait longer, but that's the soonest they'll release them.

The Accident Investigation Board found that pilot error was the cause of the collision that killed both pilots in one aircraft. The Mishap Student Pilot(MSP1) of MA1(65-0395) was on the left wing of MA2, during a formation landing. After landing, MA1 briefly became airborne again, rolled right before touching down in a right bank, and entering a skid. The aircraft became airborne, and the right MLG impacted MA2, causing MA1 to roll onto its back before impacting the ground in an inverted position.

The student pilot performed an aerobraking maneuver as soon as the landing gear contacted the runway, which caused the aircraft to become airborne. He was focused on runway position, and input right rudder to steer away from the left edge of the runway, but since the aircraft was airborne, it caused a roll to the right, instead of steering the aircraft. The Mishap Instructor Pilot failed to take control of the situation, and was unable to correct the aircraft before impact with MA2.

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