Two T-38s down in Oklahoma

Vance AFB has announced that two T-38s were involved in a "mishap" while on a routine training flight and have gone down. There were four pilots on board between the two aircraft. Vance personnel are on scene to support recovery and any casualties.

This is a breaking story, more as it becomes available.

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a reply to: Zaphod58

Sounds like a collision, I will pray for the best for them.

Vance has confirmed that two pilots were killed.

a reply to: Zaphod58


Very sad.

RIP to the two airmen.

The T-7A can't get here fast enough. This makes 8 T-38s lost since November of 2017.

These two aircraft apparently collided on the runway. Pictures show one is upright off the pavement, and one is upside down in the grass next to the runway.

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a reply to: Zaphod58

Very sad news.....

Pure speculation on my part right now, but I would say based on this picture they were doing a formation takeoff or landing at the time of the incident.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It seems that way, I'm posting this picture for those that can't use the link,




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wow that's insane

What were weather conditions?Crosswind across the runway might push one across into the others path?
RIP..

a reply to: Blackfinger

That's what I'm wondering. There's currently a 21 mph wind.

Would certain weather conditions not allow a formation take off/landing ?

a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

You learn to compensate for crosswinds, and those conditions. Inexperience may play a role, if it was weather related, or it may have been a sudden wind gust that hit them.

The aircraft were performing a formation takeoff at the time. The right wing of the upright aircraft has damage to it, possibly from impacting the other aircraft during the takeoff roll.

Our thoughts are with the lost pilots

A news report this afternoon said that they were doing simultaneous touch and gos and the wings overlapped.

a reply to: ThePeaceMaker

15 knots crosswind component
The other factors don’t apply. Like rcr.

a reply to: Zaphod58

As in not in the same formation? I don’t think that’s a thing in formation. The instructor was a solid dude.

a reply to: glib2

That's just what the news is saying. I usually take it with a grain of salt, but sometimes they get it right. Based on where the aircraft wound up though, it appears pretty certain they were in formation. My first thought was formation takeoff, not a touch and go. With a 15 knot crosswind, formation anything could get interesting if they weren't careful.

a reply to: Zaphod58
Yeah the news is horrible with aviation. Pretty sure a form landing accident. We will wait and see.

No touch and go’s formation. Low approach is a thing and full stop. Him him.