Democrats are Tuning Out - Lackluster Interest in President Trump Impeachment Broadcasts.

November 15, 2019

The first day of public testimony in the House Impeachment Inquiry against President Donald Trump was a BUST for Democrats, in more ways than one.

When it came to viewing what CNN-ABC-CBS-NBC billed as a riveting day of testimony, that would "bring to life" the Quid-Quo-Pro, Extortion, Bribery and Abuse of Power wielded by President Trump, relatively few Democrats bothered to tune in.

In total audience, MSNBC had 2.7 million viewers, ABC had 2 million, and CBS was close behind with 1.9 million. CNN was in fourth place with 1.85 million, and NBC was last among the major news players with 1.7 million viewers.

Source: deadline.com...

Public Sentiment Overall...

Inside the Red Rock Casino Resort in west Las Vegas, only a couple of the dozens of television screens on the main floor were tuned to the hearing. Lonnie Spray, a bartender at the casino's sports bar, said he had not heard much interest in the event from patrons.

"People that I'm talking to don't want it on because they think it's a sham," said Spray, who works the graveyard shift.

Billy Koester, the bartender at a pub in South Orange, New Jersey, said he wasn't paying close attention. "I just put it on because it's happening," he said.

Meanwhile, a small handful of Twitter users complained that the network special reports had pre-empted the game show staples of daytime television, such as "The Price Is Right" and "Let's Make a Deal."

Big Hype - Little Interest: www.nbcnews.com...

Compared to recent big events, the opening day of Trump Impeachment drew a smaller audience than the S.C. Justice Brett Kavanaugh confirmation hearing in the Fall of 2018, and the James Comey testimony to Congress in July 2017.

Source: www.reuters.com... SKBN1XO2QC

The low viewership tells you that Democrats across the country are losing faith in, and even embarrassed by, their party leadership.

Also, most Democrats are doing better on a personal/family/financial level under Republican President Donald Trump, than they did when Democrat Barack Obama was President. They see Impeaching one of America's most successful Presidents as LUNACY. (Historians will too.)

-CareWeMust

Hardcore democrat supporters will be along shortly to say that they were too busy with their Crayolas and colouring books... or something like that...

Apparently...

Humour/off

Lags

a reply to: carewemust

the reason I believe falls into three categories.

one. they know or at very least heavily believe that the democrats will succeed in impeaching trump. So no need to watch it unfold... kinda like hillory supporters believing she was gonna win so no need for her to campaign / do appearances , or talk to the press very much.

two.... that no matter what the press will drive and promote trump impeachment full force. So actual viewership is irrelevant. On this they are quite correct .

three... that whatever happens (or irrationally believing) that the end result is (be impeachment or not) trump reputation will be so damaged him winning 2020 is impossible.

Hell these ideas have sustained them and drove them to continue attacks no matter how many gross failures they have had.

scrounger

originally posted by: Lagomorphe
Hardcore democrat supporters will be along shortly to say that they were too busy with their Crayolas and colouring books... or something like that...

Apparently...

Humour/off

Lags

What a load of crap, I finished all my colouring in yesterday.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Lagomorphe
Hardcore democrat supporters will be along shortly to say that they were too busy with their Crayolas and colouring books... or something like that...

Apparently...

Humour/off

Lags

What a load of crap, I finished all my colouring in yesterday.

Pffftttt...

I am sure you didn’t do the outlines correctly!? 🤪

Pics or it never happened...

Warmest

Lags

a reply to: carewemust
Says a lot about what people really think about this circus sideshow. Many Dem party members have realized this is a total waste of time and effort and sham that’s going absolutely nowhere in the end. Schiff is making a complete ass out of not only himself but the Party itself. They have the most fitting mascot ever.

a reply to: carewemust

thats over 10 million people

how many do you think " should " have watched ??

i assume its on during day - so most people @ work

< half country = democrats

10 million people having the fortitude to watch politicians sounds a lot to me

i note C-SPAN viewer figures are not listed - wonder why

so just for context - what are the " usual " viewer participations for political iciocy [ previous ] ???????????

a reply to: scrounger

But 25% of the attendees at President Trump's Louisiana rally last night were Democrats.

The Stats: twitter.com...

In New Mexico, it was 33%.

Democrat Congressman Green lamented that unless President Trump is removed from office before November 2020, he's a shoe-in for being re-elected. He hasn't been invited back to CNN or MSNBC since pointing out how THE REAL WORLD is operating.

a reply to: Lagomorphe

America is diverse. It would be boring if every ATS member agreed with every other ATS member.

originally posted by: mtnshredder
a reply to: carewemust
Says a lot about what people really think about this circus sideshow. Many Dem party members have realized this is a total waste of time and effort and sham that’s going absolutely nowhere in the end. Schiff is making a complete ass out of not only himself but the Party itself. They have the most fitting mascot ever.

Trump

“When you talk about innocent, I am truly not involved (in) any form of collusion with Russia. Believe me, that’s the last thing I can think of to be involved in.”

Nixon

“I welcome this kind of examination because people have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I am not a crook. I’ve earned everything I’ve got.”

Trump

“There was no obstruction. I mean, unless you call obstruction the fact that I fight back. I fight back. I really fight back. If you call that obstruction, that's fine. But there's no obstruction.”

Nixon

“I made my mistakes. But in all of my years of public life, I have never profited, never profited from public service. I’ve earned every cent. And in all of my years of public life, I have never obstructed justice.”

Trump

“Of the 34 people (charged with crimes), many of them were bloggers from Moscow or they were people that had nothing to do with me, had nothing to do with what they’re talking about, or they were people that got caught telling a fib or telling a lie.”

Nixon

“I first learned from news reports of the Watergate break-in. I was appalled at this senseless, illegal action. And I was shocked to learn that employees of the re-election committee were apparently among those guilty.”

Trump

“Mike Flynn is a fine person, and I asked for his resignation. He respectfully gave it … what he did wasn’t wrong.”

“(Manafort) happens to be a very good person. And I think it’s very sad what they’ve done to Paul Manafort.”

Nixon

“In one of the most difficult decisions of my presidency, I accepted the resignations of two of my closest associates in the White House -- Bob Haldeman, John Ehrlichman, two of the finest public servants it has been my privilege to know.”

The Final Report of the Select Committee castigated the conduct of the intelligence community in its domestic operations in no uncertain terms:

The Committee finds that the domestic activities of the intelligence community at times violated specific statutory prohibitions and infringed the constitutional rights of American citizens. The legal questions involved in intelligence programs were often not considered. On other occasions, they were intentionally disregarded in the belief that because the programs served the "national security" the law did not apply. While intelligence officers on occasion failed to disclose to their superiors programs which were illegal or of questionable legality, the Committee finds that the most serious breaches of duty were those of senior officials, who were responsible for controlling intelligence activities and generally failed to assure compliance with the law.

Many of the techniques used would be intolerable in a democratic society even if all of the targets had been involved in violent activity, but CO-INTEL-PRO & IN-Q-TEL went far beyond that ... the Bureau conducted a sophisticated vigilante operation aimed squarely at preventing the exercise of First Amendment rights of speech and association, on the theory that preventing the growth of dangerous groups and the propagation of dangerous ideas would protect the national security and deter violence.

Technological developments in this century have rendered the most private conversations of American citizens vulnerable to interception and monitoring by government agents. The electronic means by which the Government can extend its "antennae" are varied: microphones may be secretly planted in private locations or on mobile informants; so-called
"spike mikes" may be inserted into the wall of an adjoining room; and parabolic microphones may be directed at speakers far away to register the sound waves they emit.

Telephone conversations may be overheard without the necessity of attaching electronic devices to the telephone itself or to the lines connecting the telephone with the telephone company. An ordinary telephone may also be turned into an open microphone -- a "miketel" capable of intercepting all conversations within hearing range even when the telephone is
not in use.

Even more sophisticated technology permits the Government to intercept any telephone, telegram, or telex communication which is transmitted at least partially through the air, as most such communications now are. This type of interception is virtually undetectable and does not require the cooperation of private communications companies.

The very intrusiveness of these techniques implies the need for strict controls on their use, and the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable searches and seizures demands no less.

Without such controls, they may be directed against entirely innocent American citizens, and the Government may use the vast range of information exposed by electronic means for partisan political and other improper purposes. Yet in the past the controls on these techniques have not been effective; improper targets have been selected and politically useful information obtained through electronic surveillance has been provided to senior administration officials.

Enter "Computers & Communism - Stanford University"

It is intended for you the "Proletariat" (the People) to wire-tap your elected officials (the Bourgeois) to ascertain that they are not breaking the law or your civil rights under those amendments to the bill or rights.

TCP/IP = The Communist Parties / Intellectual Property! (Transmission Control Protocol Blah Blah = False!)

OpenBSD - CDE - Common Desktop Environment
Login Manager DTLogin - Real Name = Deception Toolkit Login
DTK - published by Fred Cohen = www.all.net...

Plan 9 from Bell Labs, that odd-looking research operating system from the same Bell Laboratories team that gave the world UNIX and was until recently associated with Nokia and the special service for interception of communications by southern bell telephone company for the FBI.

As you may already know, it was intended as a "do-over" of UNIX, as that older system's shortcomings were perceived by its creators as being too deep to fix with mere patches or upgrades, so they opted to start over from scratch.

The 1992 inaugural release of Plan 9 from Bell Labs was the result of that effort.

Prior release and download of the system in question resulted in it's users being wanted for "information warfare" against the FBI - See hollywood (holy-wood) movie "take down" aka: Hackers 3 with Kevin Mitnik

I want that Nokitel Code!

Tsutomu Shimomura

You dont understand what I did, in order to create the perfect weapon, I first had to create the perfect disease!

9front.org
Download install && Type:

/cat/lib/manifesto

read = manifesto of the communist party USA!

The Democrats should tune in it’s a barrel of laughs.

It’s like inquiry a parade of stupid and Schiff is the MC .

a reply to: carewemust

The first day of public testimony in the House Impeachment Inquiry against President Donald Trump was a BUST for Democrats, in more ways than one.

You must have been watching a different one from me.
It was a work day most folks are not in front of a TV at ten AM.
Same with comparing it to Kavanaugh and Comey, smaller but smaller than what? Those also were daytime work day events.
And you can be sure that the folks who didnt sit through it got all the coverage of the main points from their local nightly news. Everybody is interested in this.

"People that I'm talking to don't want it on because they think it's a sham," said Spray, who works the graveyard shift.

And that, lol, is the opinion of a bartender who works the graveyard shift in a Las Vegas bar that isn't even on the strip. Ho hum, who are his customers?

I disagree🤪

It's all for and about the elite having their day. Nothing for the average person. They know it's not going anywhere no matter how hard they want it to.

FOX News ratings are up because people are not sticking to a single source other than coming back to compare what everyone says.

a reply to: Sillyolme

ok PRECISELY what EVIDENCE did the witnesses present that COUNTERED OR PROVED WRONG the transcript of the ACTUAL PHONE CONVERSATION , the TESTIMONY (in multiple medias/outlets) from THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE stating there was NO quip pro quo , that ukraine got ALL the aid , and that NONE OF WHAT WAS ACCUSED to be demanded by trump didnt happen?

because their "opinion" and "recollection" does not rise to above even the HARD EVIDENCE of a transcript.


unless you can present that then your just repeating propaganda .

scrounger

I don’t know what you guys are SOOO scared of, but our ardent Trump supporters just continue to do everything to discredit the Constitutional process currently underway in the House. It’s almost ... rabid, like sticking your fingers in your ears and shrieking to drown out something you don’t want to hear.

Let the Dems have enough rope to hang themselves with. Your guy Trump has the Senate in his back pocket, right?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Your guy Trump has the Senate in his back pocket, right?

The same senate who's intelligence committee determined that it was Russia who hacked the DNC and interfered with the 2016 elections? Not Ukraine? That senate?

a reply to: Sillyolme

Comrade.

NBC News is much credible

NBC News (@NBCNews) Analysis: The first two witnesses called Wednesday testified to President Trump's scheme, but lacked the pizzazz necessary to capture public attention. nbcnews.to/2pfAayE

Nyet? Da?

a reply to: scrounger

Testimony. It's looking pretty bad right now.

Today Yovanovich gets to tell us how she was moved out of the way because she objected to the direction of Rudy Giuliani's negotiations.
How even though she did nothing wrong as reported by her superiors, she was being removed from her post.
How she 'the woman' was "going to go through some things"... He couldn't even bother learning her name... he just knew he needed her out of the way.
Perhaps a few more should tune in.

a reply to: Waterglass

You know what they say about opinions right?
and they all stink...
That doesnt mean that people are not interested. The reporting of the testimony was abbreviated and easily digested by most. Whereas the actually testimony got a bit wordy. I think most got the message about how much Ukraine depends on us and how much this move to strongarm them into some scandal put them on the spot.
Todays testimony may spark more interest.
But even if there isnt a great big audience doesn't mean people are not interested.