Conjuring Demon Zozo with a Ouija Board

You know "zozo" (ZoSo) isn't a real thing, right? It was just something Page made up.

originally posted by: StallionDuck
You know "zozo" (ZoSo) isn't a real thing, right? It was just something Page made up.

Does it matter? Where does our "imagination" come from, after all? Oh, inside our heads? Well, that's where the demons live, right?

a reply to: noonebutme

Your take is reductionist and standard these days... and I shared them at one time, but it might be erroneous.

I've personally had a couple weird Ouija experiences.

The first wasn't very theatrical and admittedly some chemical use was present, but the chemicals weren't a explanation... only a factor.

Four of us were in High School and began using a board one rainy "ditch" day. It was unresponsive at first and boring, but then started "working."

It was fairly typical. It started answering with simple yes and no's and still did when we switched up users ... and then turned macabre, asking if we wanted to know when we'd die or get diseased ... then it turned deeply profane, to the point we had to look up some words for genitalia not used since the 1600's; and we all felt an odd, oppressive atmosphere.

It's hard to describe with words, but one aspect was a difference in light texture, colors were washed out like a faint blue-green filter was over one's eyes. There was also a very depressed, hopeless... just a wrong ambiance. One girl got so flustered she threw the board across the room and accused her little sister of manipulating the planchette due to resentment, but the sis swore she wasn't the one moving it... and to be fair, it moved with different people at the board and the two had a very good relationship, normally.

We nervously left the home to do something else, and we did not properly end the session like I've since heard is important, but there were a few odd things that happened after that that might've been caused by that stupid board. Things like a picture falling off the wall right when there was a pause in conversation, lightbulbs burning out , static on car radios, synchronicity... all pretty mundane, but clustered together after that afternoon.

It may well be coincidence, deceit and expectations... but it sure felt real.

Then later, the second was when a fairly large group of us decided to go to the nearby mountains one weekend evening, we were joined by a guy who was a friend of a friend. The guy was outgoing and soon told us he had been playing with a Ouija board earlier and reading from the Necronomicon , when all sorts of spooky phenomna had happened and he was chased out of the house by poltergeist activity. As the Necronomican is a fictional book, I laughed him off as an ignorant metal head trying to impress the new group with b.s.

Anyway, we were out at a local canyon, sitting on the rocks by a stream with an old stone dam looming above us, about 25 feet high, drinking and whatnot. Time passed until one of us called attention to these two red lights at the top of the dam, looking down at us like two luminous, red eyes.

I tried to figure out what they were... they were too bright and red for the usual animal "eyeshine" ...plus we were blocked from the distant city lights by hills and it was a cloudy, moonless night... so not enough light to reflect, anyway.

I had convinced myself it was two burning bbq coals someone had left up there, or a hiker with red penlights messing around, when the lights blinked and glanced quickly to it's left and then back to us.

The movement was way too organic and I knew it was a creature of some sort. A big one as I estimated the "eyes" were at least 3 inches apart and each seemed to be at least 2 inches across.

At this point we were all paying close attention ... and the new guy charged ahead, climbed the trail to the top of the dam to see what it was. I thought he was trying too hard, but stupidly brave.

He got to the top and slowly walked toward the "eyes" which were at the other side of the dam. He got almost halfway across the 50 foot dam and stopped, then shrieked and lept off the dam back towards us, falling and running at the same time, right down the steep stone incline and through cactus and thorny shrubs.

He shot past us and sprinted back towards the parking lot a half mile away. We all decided to join him... I don't know where the eyes went as I was running with everyone else. It seemed the correct thing to do.

Frustratingly, he would not tell us what he saw, though we tried to find out ... but the brash alpha guy was hyperventilating and softy crying the whole drive back. If it was an act, he was quite the actor.

I went back to that dam to investigate the next day. At the top of the dam where the eyes were, there was a muddy shore filled with bird and small critter prints, but no prints even approaching dog or coyote sized was found. I never saw that "new guy" again.

I've since tried to figure out what animal could have such radiant red eyes. I have no clue what it was. Though I'm not asserting woo, I suppose this could sound like a Halloween story, and it is since it's Halloween... but I pinky swear it's truth.

Indeed..ask Jimmy page

originally posted by: vlawde


I think the reason for the resurgence of this 'demon' is from one of the worst paranormal shows out there, Ghost Adventures. They investigated a house where some guy was saying he was in communication with "Zozo". Of course, the 3 Stooges of the paranormal ate it all up, exaggerated everything and ran around with the typical "OMG DUDE!"s

At any rate, to me the only thing Zozo brings to mind is Led Zeppelin 4

originally posted by: StallionDuck
You know "zozo" (ZoSo) isn't a real thing, right? It was just something Page made up.

Or did he?

(cue x-files music)

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: StallionDuck
You know "zozo" (ZoSo) isn't a real thing, right? It was just something Page made up.

Or did he?

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Considering it started with him and found nowhere else in history? That's my guess.

The symbol zozo.....well...I don't know.
....but he did buy Crowley's property and live there at one time so he did have in interest in such silly things....
The other 3 symbols of
each band member in led Zeppelin only two of them I know for sure were taken from actual existing symbols .Robert plant's symbol the circle with the feather I have not seen elsewhere Jimmy Page's symbol I have seen similar symbols but nothing exact and he never really has commented on its origin.

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: StallionDuck
You know "zozo" (ZoSo) isn't a real thing, right? It was just something Page made up.

Or did he?

(cue x-files music)

Some years back, my wife and I trekked down to Salt Lake City, to interview a German Genealogist named Renske. There were reports of a missing bank teller and I had also touched base on a dowser's forum about this case. I opined that I'd look into her location. When we got close to Little Cottonwood Canyon, things lit up. But working our way up through the canyon, which was the alpine part of the SLC Olympics of a few years previous, all we ran into was a Utah DOT crew mopping out an old 1954 model 105 Howitzer. I ragged on them using a field piece instead of the recoiless rifles, used farther North, and asked too many questions about caves and chains and such. My Aussie acquaintance had chimed in with some pretty weird accommodations, more like a circus wild animal act. As we worked up to Park City, at the mountain pass at the top of the Canyon, my rod got into a knife fight with me.
When I got back home I brought up Google Earth and looked to the S.E. of this mountain top town. There ain't much out in the canyons to the East of Park City. Then another dowser on that site hit pay dirt as the SLC law dogs found the teller's body in the Salt Lake City dump, wrapped up in Plastic, by her husband/killer. So I was disappointed, and dropped my search. It was a few months later that there was a solution to a serial killer, operating around Wichita, Ks. He actually lived in Park City, KS., which is a suburb of Wichita, and had cages and restraints he used as the local dog catcher. He had left clues to mark him as the BTK killer. That's Bind, Torture, Kill, for you who remember this case. Maybe if I hadn't been so focused on the missing bank teller, I might have map dowsed a lot farther to the S.E. of Park City, UT. to find that bad guy in Park City, KS. Part of this was that I really weirded out those UDOT kids, and I wasn't sure if they may have reported someone asking too many questions about empty underground magazines in the Little Cottonwood Canyon area, east of SLC. Long story short, psychic disturbances can be sympathetic, say like agitation at Park City, UT. for dastardly murders in Wichita, KS., hundreds of miles away. BTK lived and worked in Park City, KS., but did his crimes in and around, neighboring Wichita. But there never was any Wichita, Utah, so the unsettled spirits were haunting the city with the same name as the one where he laid down his head to sleep. Sort of like a short wave radio signal, skipping around the Earth's surface.
Happy Halloween, anyway!

A curious quote I found about the history of the ouija board.

According to Murch’s interviews with the descendants of the Ouija founders and the original Ouija patent file itself, which he’s seen, the story of the board’s patent request was true: Knowing that if they couldn’t prove that the board worked, they wouldn’t get their patent, Bond brought the indispensible Peters to the patent office in Washington with him when he filed his application. There, the chief patent officer demanded a demonstration—if the board could accurately spell out his name, which was supposed to be unknown to Bond and Peters, he’d allow the patent application to proceed. They all sat down, communed with the spirits, and the planchette faithfully spelled out the patent officer’s name. Whether or not it was mystical spirits or the fact that Bond, as a patent attorney, may have just known the man’s name, well, that’s unclear, Murch says. But on February 10, 1891, a white-faced and visibly shaken patent officer awarded Bond a patent for his new “toy or game.”

Source

In other words, this novelty adult toy gained its credibility as a tool for conjuring the spirit world, simply because a patent attorney happened to know the name of the chief patient officer, who freaked out and claimed it as legit.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: Blue Shift
Hahaha....he better change name. Too funny to scare. I picture him like a Pokemon.
Zo, zo funny.

It (he) apparently goes by other names, but "Zozo" or some variant is most common. But I know what you mean.

"I'm the demon of pain and blood and through me you will first lose your mind before dying in agonizing torment!"
"Oh, what is your name, foul demon?"
"Jim!"

That sounds like an ex-wife about to sue you.

a reply to: Blue Shift

The only time I ever contacted anyone with an Ouija board was some miner named Jack who got kicked by his mule and died.

lol

Whether real or subconscious Ouija brings out some weird stuff...

a reply to: Blue Shift Once again more nonsense here,this is quite embarrassing,how they make a child's game into some channeling tool,blindfold everyone,see what happens.. nothing,all in someones weak imagination,wish someone would post something of interest and truth

a reply to: Oldtimer2

,wish someone would post something of interest and truth

Oh tempus fugit . Seems to me that's a word so true. have given up along time ago. Greatness fading away. All what is left here it seams zozo the croseyed and nearsighted demon and friend. Wish there was something more something deeper. Real investigations with results.

...but he did buy Crowley's property and live there at one time so he did have in interest in such silly things....

a reply to: Faeded


Well considering it burned down in 2015 and had been owned by Jimmy Page in the 70s and a list of all the families that have owned it in between them are recorded

Please do tell us who you are and from when you owned it

Your history of the symbols seems to be pretty far off for someone that was intimately involved

a reply to: dfnj2015

Sure it might be real. But so far there is zero evidence to say it is and lots to say it isn’t.

For example, i played around with it with friends many years ago. At first i was shocked at how it answered, how the pointed seemed to move without me pushing it, etc.

I then asked my ‘grandmother’ (who was the connected spirit) questions only i knew and weirdly it was right.

Then, when I took my finger off it and asked other questions, she didn’t get anything right. Weird.

So then I asked if she was in the room and sure enough the pointer said yes. I then asked how many fingers i was holding up behind my back. SHe got it wrong. We did this like, 4 times. Always wrong. How could she get it wrong if she was in the room and could see us? (We had already asked questions about visuals and things the group could see, oddly she got right).

The point is, it was all bullsh*t. It is purely down to the individuals using the pointer. Consciously or subsconsciously.

Now, if NO ONE touched the pointer and it still did all that — hell, ok. I’d be be impressed!

a reply to: Baddogma

And at any point was the Ouija board pointer moving WITHOUT any of you touching it?

Because you will answer, ‘No, we were touching it’ then I would dismiss all of the results of the pointer/Ouija board as personal un/conscious volition. Nothing more.

As for the red eyes thingy — *if* you saw what you saw (you said in your post you have been drinking and whatnot) then i chalk it up as your own faculties deceiving you. I haven’t heard of any animal with glow in the dark red eyes unless you get that light reflecting off the back of their eyes phenomena.

And again, there is zero evidence of demons, ghouls, zombies and other Satanicky nasties. Only what Hollywood or the religious tell us.

originally posted by: noonebutme
a reply to: Blue Shift

Don't worry about it -- it's all a sham. It isn't real. It's based purely on the people touching the pointer.

I wouldn't waste your time.

Would you be prepared to do an experiment involving live camera? Two cameras in your bedroom live 24/7 for one week? You would be a YouTube artist?

If you and others here at ATS do not believe in evil spirits than lets do an experiment, what do you say? I will show you how to connect to the spirit world and call out certain spirits who will show up and visit with you. Only one string attached: I cannot be held responsible for anything that happens.

Offer is open to anyone here at ATS.

a reply to: DeathSlayer

My wife might have something to say about having a camera in our bedroom 24/7. O_o

WHy do I need a camera? Tell me how to connect to the spirit world and let me see for myself? I have no one to convince but myself. If it works, I’ll happily report back my erroneous prior beliefs. I have nothing to lose.

And I certainly would not hold you responsible for anything that’s happens... well, apart from me wasting my time

So please — PM me the means and methods to connect to the spirit world and I’ll give it a go.

a reply to: noonebutme

Do you have children?

Do you have pets?

Often pets die from this type of experiment and rare but it has been said children as well.

originally posted by: StallionDuck

originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: StallionDuck
You know "zozo" (ZoSo) isn't a real thing, right? It was just something Page made up.

Or did he?

(cue x-files music)

Considering it started with him and found nowhere else in history? That's my guess.

This is from Jerome Cardan's De rerum varietate, 1557. I think there was a slightly earlier image of it too, in a different book.