Mattis Completely Roasts Trump

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
It definitely seems like Trump's move in Syria has started costing him support within the military.

Not the rank and file, only the MIC politicians.

Now with the newest updates in Syria, it's possible that Crenshaw will come back in to the fold.

Seeing as the newest updates are a temporary ceasefire and an agreement to end the hostilities permanently if the agreement terms are met, we will have to wait and see, but if this works out, Trumps support from the rank and file military will skyrocket.

In the case of Mattis however, Trump should've just let sleeping dogs lie. It'll be interesting to see if Mattis starts openly discussing his stories from his time in the Trump administration.

Much of anything that happened will likely be considered secret and he can't discuss it, at least no details.

But yeah, I kind of agree, Trump should have kept silent about Mattis - although who knows, maybe he had a reason...

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
I'm just enjoying seeing the Right starting to eat itself.

It isn't, it is just more of the same (flack from the RINOs and in this case, the MIC)...

I also think that Trump made a dumb move angering Mattis. He's pretty much been the only person removed from his post that hasn't publicly spoken out against Trump. Now that policy seems to be done and he's probably the one that can do the most damage to Trump's reputation.

No damage, and can't even disclose any details to try without disclosing classified information, which I'm sure he would never do, since he probably wants to stay out of jail.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: RazorV66

So then, if Mattis is so overrated and outdated, why did Trump give him the job in the first place? Why were all of Trump's supporters so happy about his appointment?

It was a good appointment at the time - they got the job done.

I thought Trump only hired the best people.

In this case I think he did. They got the job done, no?

originally posted by: LordAhriman
This is hilarious. All the righties were CREAMING themselves when Mattis got appointed. Now, orange man say he bad so he bad. LOL!

It's always fun to go through these old threads and see who you can find contridicting themselfs..

James Mattis Eyed As Trump's Possible Pick for Defense Secretary

Peace

Has he claimed it all to be just a parody yet ?

😃 🦉

a reply to: Xcalibur254

It definitely seems like Trump's move in Syria has started costing him support within the military

of course it is, its effecting their paycheck. no more wars means a smaller budget, less toys and no more excuses to murder people... i'm sure they are very upset about it. not to mention all their Halliburton stocks are probably at risk too.

doing the right thing usually pisses people off and a bunch of people in the middle east that have been fighting each other for 2000+ years are the LAST people i care about .... [offending] ....

has it ever occured to you that the military is our big hammer and when your a big hammer all you see is nails, of course they want to get to swinging again, they are bias.

a reply to: Shamrock6

"Y'all"? I have no mice in my pocket.

My problem is that we, as a nation, have devolved into discussing people and their one liners instead of ideas. You know that saying...small minds discuss people, large minds discuss ideas? We are seeing that on a national level, and led by elected "leaders" as well as media/journalism.

And its broken ideas down into small chunks. Mattis said far more than this one liner throughout his time in public life, but you hear little about it and even less about the ideas behind it. What we are left with are 2 sides that either have outrage or laugh at this nonsense, and the third side left looking on in pure disgust at what "political discourse" has become.

Laugh all you want. I suppose its better than the alternative.

a reply to: operation mindcrime

"Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds"

Ill be the first to say that my views change constantly, and have seen a dramatic shift in the last 4-5 months as I have sought out opposing viewpoints, considered what was being said, and uploaded into my own mental processing grid.

Right now...its all about automation, who owns the means of production, and how humans can turn this enormous investment into something that benefits us. It looks like socialism from the outside....but its something different. Its more like "post capitalism", if i were to put words to it.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

My problem is that we, as a nation, have devolved into discussing people and their one liners instead of ideas. You know that saying...small minds discuss people, large minds discuss ideas? We are seeing that on a national level, and led by elected "leaders" as well as media/journalism.

Do you see Donald Trump being responsible for the conversation devolving at all?

Or is that solely on other people?

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Ummm, here's where you may be a little confused.

Let me help.

The leftists support, endorse being in goose-step with each other and a certain ideological way of thinking. They applaud diversity except in thought.

So when they (you) see anyone to the right of Lenin disagree with each other, you automatically assume that it's a certain ideology that is eating itself.

I hope that clears things up.

You're welcome.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

My problem is that we, as a nation, have devolved into discussing people and their one liners instead of ideas. You know that saying...small minds discuss people, large minds discuss ideas? We are seeing that on a national level, and led by elected "leaders" as well as media/journalism.

Do you see Donald Trump being responsible for the conversation devolving at all?

Or is that solely on other people?

I see him as a willing pawn. The people who repealed Smith Mundt are responsible. The psyops is so thick in politics right now that you can cut it iwth a knife.

I don't focus on people...people come and go. Its systems that are intended to secure the future. And we have crippled the system by allowing the IC to run propaganda against the People. The People who were intended to actually run this country. How do we expect The People to make informed decisions about electing when all they get are lies fed to them?

ETA: Take the headline on this thread as an example. Its "newsworthy" nowadays to report on the most base aspects of public figures. I enjoy reading Ben Shapiro for a perspective....but have grown completely tired with his headlines that say someone "flattened" someone else. I respect Crenshaw, but wouuld prefer to see his comments couched in a less confrontational manner. Its like media wants to see us at each others throat rather than finding solutions.

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So is he responsible for the conversation devolving or not?

Simple yes or no question.

I agree that he's a willing pawn and is just a puppet. It seems very strange to me that a self described non-supporter can never call him out for the obvious role he plays in dividing this country and devolving the national conversation..

a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

ETA: Take the headline on this thread as an example. Its "newsworthy" nowadays to report on the most base aspects of public figures. I enjoy reading Ben Shapiro for a perspective....but have grown completely tired with his headlines that say someone "flattened" someone else. I respect Crenshaw, but wouuld prefer to see his comments couched in a less confrontational manner. Its like media wants to see us at each others throat rather than finding solutions.

Or maybe it's just the media reporting on someone who's called them all traitors and an enemy of the people..

You seem like you don't want to put any of the blame on Donald Trump.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
As OP's title suggests...it sounds like it was literally a 'Roast'...i.e. a banquet with good-hearted jokes and criticism.
Being generally humorless,...the Left tends to take all jokes as serious literal commentary.

Liberals really need signs of HOPE right now. Every trap set is falling apart.

BTW..Is James Mattis the General who Trump labeled as "overrated" at the Dallas rally this week?

a reply to: carewemust

BTW..Is James Mattis the General who Trump labeled as "overrated" at the Dallas rally this week?

If you actually took the time to read a thread instead of just looking for people that confirm your worldview, you would have the answer to your question in my OP.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Haha

Wow, you leftists are now the Worlds Biggest hypocrites. (I can't say Greatest, because there's nothing great about tyrannical authoritarianism.)

Suddenly supporting American imperialism and interventionism. Supporting generals and warhawks. Your TDS has become terminal.

sad

Trump could cure cancel and they leftist will then start complaining he is putting doctor's out of work...

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

ETA: Take the headline on this thread as an example. Its "newsworthy" nowadays to report on the most base aspects of public figures. I enjoy reading Ben Shapiro for a perspective....but have grown completely tired with his headlines that say someone "flattened" someone else. I respect Crenshaw, but wouuld prefer to see his comments couched in a less confrontational manner. Its like media wants to see us at each others throat rather than finding solutions.

Or maybe it's just the media reporting on someone who's called them all traitors and an enemy of the people..

You seem like you don't want to put any of the blame on Donald Trump.

Oh please. He called out media for reporting on the Dossier and its obvious lies. Media attacked him first. A media that used to love him.

He's a simple kind of guy that will respond to any kind of attack. Easily baited. And successfully baiting the president makes good headlines.

Prior to DJT, we all pretty much agreed that media was full of crap. Now, all of a sudden, we want to pretend they aren't and its all DJT's fault? No. I won't buy into this.

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

So is he responsible for the conversation devolving or not?

Simple yes or no question.

I agree that he's a willing pawn and is just a puppet. It seems very strange to me that a self described non-supporter can never call him out for the obvious role he plays in dividing this country and devolving the national conversation..

You answer your own question, now don't you? How can a "willing puppet" claim responsibility for playing a role?

Are we to be surprised at how a Soldier talks? At the end of the day, regardless of rank, we're all grunts and that comes with the territory, regardless of how quiet and private one is.

Mattis sounds like any other Soldier, he's just crossing that border publicly that most military officers would rather avoid, but he's an old dog and entitled to his opinions, he has earned them.

Same with Trump, he has gained the Presidency and if wants to call Mathis a blithering idiot, so be it, the world moves on and the Military continues to get funded.

This isn't a Roast, Mattis may be conservative, but he isn't into partisan politics publicly, he is just responding. The right isn't eating itself and we aren't claiming the left itself, they do eat themselves, all the time, just look at the DNC drama 😂

I think you foolishly jumped the gun in an attempt to snark at the right, it's cringy, embarrassing and you should feel bad 😐

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

originally posted by: underwerks
a reply to: bigfatfurrytexan

ETA: Take the headline on this thread as an example. Its "newsworthy" nowadays to report on the most base aspects of public figures. I enjoy reading Ben Shapiro for a perspective....but have grown completely tired with his headlines that say someone "flattened" someone else. I respect Crenshaw, but wouuld prefer to see his comments couched in a less confrontational manner. Its like media wants to see us at each others throat rather than finding solutions.

Or maybe it's just the media reporting on someone who's called them all traitors and an enemy of the people..

You seem like you don't want to put any of the blame on Donald Trump.

Oh please. He called out media for reporting on the Dossier and its obvious lies. Media attacked him first. A media that used to love him.

He's a simple kind of guy that will respond to any kind of attack. Easily baited. And successfully baiting the president makes good headlines.

Prior to DJT, we all pretty much agreed that media was full of crap. Now, all of a sudden, we want to pretend they aren't and its all DJT's fault? No. I won't buy into this.

I was just wondering if you were arguing in good faith or not. Obviously not. Thanks for making that known. No one is going to take anything you say seriously until you can hold Donald Trump the least bit accountable for his own behavior. Which you obviously can't. And that says it all.

Concern troll all you want.