Sadly, Trump is in danger of being removed from Office

The only thing the whole phone call has is support from the left. If they don't formally impeach he can't defend himself from their one sided attack. So no impeachment just constant investigation and no opportunity for defense.

Leaks ,leaks and more leaks

Nothing



Seems like marketing at work not a government. Block the competition.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: UKTruth
There would be nothing you could do about it - except withdraw and introduce sanctions.
Nothing at all.
So, regardless of how you word it, your answer is the correct one. You'd withdraw.

Would I? I think not. Turkey is an enemy and you deal with enemies directly. Erdogan is a bully and when you stand up to bullies they back down.

So you call them out and leave the troops there, they get bombed, you then have a bigger decision to make. War with Turkey - a conflict that the US would have zero chance of winning and would cost the lives of tens of thousands of Americans in the process.
Thank heavens you're not making decisions. Risking so many of your countrymens lives on the hope that Turkey won't pull the trigger on the air raid they have pre warned you about. Meanwhile, the families of the dead Americans from the initial raid are asking questions about why you ignored the warning and left them to die.
Good job.

Fortunately, cooler heads have prevailed. Sanctions over war.

originally posted by: UKTruth
So you call them out and leave the troops there, they get bombed, you then have a bigger decision to make. War with Turkey - a conflict that the US would have zero chance of winning and would cost the lives of tens of thousands of Americans in the process.
Thank heavens you're not making decisions. Risking so many of your countrymens lives on the hope that Turkey won't pull the trigger on the air raid they have pre warned you about. Meanwhile, the families of the dead Americans from the initial raid are asking questions about why you ignored the warning and left them to die.
Good job.

Fortunately, cooler heads have prevailed. Sanctions over war.

I would most certainly leave them there since the sanctions have not stopped Turkey from advancing. While we shouldn't have been in Syria to begin with the United States isn't here to be bullied with. People like him cannot afford a conflict, he has enough internecine strife as it is without them getting smacked around militarily. Let other countries act like pussies around bullies, we shouldn't.

Why do the evangelicals and Israel backers need Trump anyway? Trump has done his job and caused the libs to go insane (and look as crazy as they are). Now they could easily sell a Jeb Bush or a Mike Pence as president. Those two look positively clean next to Trump.

Double post

originally posted by: neoholographic
Ukraine probe: John Bolton was so alarmed by Rudy Giuliani’s ‘drug deal’ he asked aide to alert White House lawyers

www.scmp.com...

Ummm... I didn't see anything in that linked article about a 'drug deal'...

What 'drug deal'?

Congress gets around to doing very little. This is probably deemed as too much effort to accomplish. It will be hot air for a while and fade away.

The logic of ridding the US, of a president, that actually cares for his country and citizens and chooses their needs over what another foreign country needs, is mind boggling.

He hasnt left the kurds in the lurch, He may have forced them into a situation that many dont like, but certainly hasnt hung them out to dry. You can bet, a plethora of weapons were supplied (at some point) to help in their fight, and theyve had enough time and US protection to get themselves re-established. Why shouldnt neighbouring countries pick up the slack at this point.

Its witch hunt after witch hunt regarding trump, wether people like him or not, hes doing his job very well IMO.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: UKTruth
So you call them out and leave the troops there, they get bombed, you then have a bigger decision to make. War with Turkey - a conflict that the US would have zero chance of winning and would cost the lives of tens of thousands of Americans in the process.
Thank heavens you're not making decisions. Risking so many of your countrymens lives on the hope that Turkey won't pull the trigger on the air raid they have pre warned you about. Meanwhile, the families of the dead Americans from the initial raid are asking questions about why you ignored the warning and left them to die.
Good job.

Fortunately, cooler heads have prevailed. Sanctions over war.

I would most certainly leave them there since the sanctions have not stopped Turkey from advancing. While we shouldn't have been in Syria to begin with the United States isn't here to be bullied with. People like him cannot afford a conflict, he has enough internecine strife as it is without them getting smacked around militarily. Let other countries act like pussies around bullies, we shouldn't.

The problem is that the US would stand no chance against Turkey militarily. It would be a very quick one sided fight, unless the US mobilised a much much bigger force to the ME than they have right now.

originally posted by: UKTruth
The problem is that the US would stand no chance against Turkey militarily. It would be a very quick one sided fight, unless the US mobilised a much much bigger force to the ME than they have right now.

There wouldn't be a fight, Erdogan is a loudmouth bully, he wouldn't do ****.

originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Trump has done the math. Americans don't want us there by and large. I'm a 20 year Veteran and totally applaud getting us out of these forever wars we can't win.

How's that "getting us out of there" coming along?

Trump says US troops in Syria to be withdrawn, redeployed in region

President Trump announced on Monday that U.S. troops in northeastern Syria will be withdrawn from the country as planned, and redeployed “in the region to monitor the situation and prevent a repeat of 2014,” when the Islamic State made major territorial gains.

Oh, and then there's Saudi Arabia.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: UKTruth
The problem is that the US would stand no chance against Turkey militarily. It would be a very quick one sided fight, unless the US mobilised a much much bigger force to the ME than they have right now.

There wouldn't be a fight, Erdogan is a loudmouth bully, he wouldn't do ****.

Nonsense. The Turks shot down a Russian fighter and Russia were smart enough not to escalate.
The US are far from the primary power in the ME.
No one is going to war with Turkey and any leader mad enough to contemplate it would soon regret it.
I do agree that Erdogan is a POS by the way, I am just being realistic. The US doesn't have the capabilty to take them on without a full scale mobilisation and Erdogan knows that is never going to happen, hence he holds the upper hand and why I think he forced Trump to stand down.

a reply to: neoholographic

I just don't understand why everyone is pushing for war. The US can't defend the kurds alone we need international support and 1000 troops won't save them from turkey and russia. Our military presence will only escalate the situation.

Turkey is currently a NATO member*. If they were ejected from NATO because of their aggression against Syria, it wouldn't likely be only the US they'd be facing. Furthermore, Syria is a Russian ally. What happens if Assad asks for help from the Bear?

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Turkey is currently a NATO member*. If they were ejected from NATO because of their aggression against Syria, it wouldn't likely be only the US they'd be facing. Furthermore, Syria is a Russian ally. What happens if Assad asks for help from the Bear?

The Bear won't take on Turkey. They're actually getting closer, with Turkey having already taken delivery of a missile defence system from Russia.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Turkey is currently a NATO member*. If they were ejected from NATO because of their aggression against Syria, it wouldn't likely be only the US they'd be facing. Furthermore, Syria is a Russian ally. What happens if Assad asks for help from the Bear?

The Bear won't take on Turkey. They're actually getting closer, with Turkey having already taken delivery of a missile defence system from Russia.

Perhaps.

Russia has said it will not allow clashes between Turkish and Syrian forces, as Turkey's military offensive in northern Syria continues. "This would simply be unacceptable... and therefore we will not allow it, of course," said Moscow's special envoy for Syria, Alexander Lavrentyev. The withdrawal of US troops from the region, announced last week, gave Turkey a "green light", critics say. Russia is a key military ally of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

BBC

originally posted by: Gryphon66

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Turkey is currently a NATO member*. If they were ejected from NATO because of their aggression against Syria, it wouldn't likely be only the US they'd be facing. Furthermore, Syria is a Russian ally. What happens if Assad asks for help from the Bear?

The Bear won't take on Turkey. They're actually getting closer, with Turkey having already taken delivery of a missile defence system from Russia.

Perhaps.

Russia has said it will not allow clashes between Turkish and Syrian forces, as Turkey's military offensive in northern Syria continues. "This would simply be unacceptable... and therefore we will not allow it, of course," said Moscow's special envoy for Syria, Alexander Lavrentyev. The withdrawal of US troops from the region, announced last week, gave Turkey a "green light", critics say. Russia is a key military ally of Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad.

BBC

If that is true, then Trump may have just achieved the most brilliant foreign policy manoeuvre in modern history.
He pulls out of Syria, forcing the Kurds to align with Assad, which Russia have just brokered.
Russia underwrites Syrian forces, now protecting the Kurds.
Turkey backs off.

We'll see how it plays out, but the result could be less conflict in Syria, the Kurds protected, Turkey held back, ISIS regeneration blocked, Russia doing the heavy lifting, US troops safe.

a reply to: UKTruth

Erdogan is a loudmouth who will back down if confronted. He needs to hold power.

A question for the Free Mason types here, are you ALL on board with the "great game" to isolate Russia as the last piece of the pie to form a giant English speaking hegemony? Are all of you Cecil Rhodes acolytes?

That would leave only China as a sore in your side (practically).

A personal side: I have no real problem with free mason's, it just seems they get

originally posted by: UKTruth

If that is true, then Trump may have just achieved the most brilliant foreign policy manoeuvre in modern history.

Maybe, let's see how this ages.