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originally posted by: proximo
originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: proximo
Can you give an example of a modern purely capitalist economy that is successful?
The United States.
Now I suppose you are going to tell me it is not purely capitalist - and that is probably true.
I don't think pure capitalism is for the best. I am for some government regulations - but they should be very limited.
There needs to be checks and balances for every system - as our founders knew. Why? Again because people are selfish and power corrupts, power does need to be distributed to keep any one group from getting out of control.
originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: dfnj2015
You lost me on the first two sentences. After three years of being called a racist, nazi, bigot, whatever-phobe, hater, warmonger, deplorable just because I am conservative you lost that argument before you ever started. Then a few lines later you refer to conservatives as "Trump cultists". Hypocrite.
I want closed borders with sensible immigration policy, I want the attacks on our Constitution to end, I want career politicians(criminals) to be held accountable for their crimes, I want an end to sanctuary cities, I want an end to all this nonsense about socialism being the answer, and I want democrats to do something with their time other than try to disrupt and ultimately remove a sitting POTUS just because they are sore losers.
originally posted by: iMnotHigh
Rofls...dude the Left Constantly labeled anyone that supported Trump.
I was mostly a Democrat, and just thought Trump was a better Candidate than Hillary.
And you #ed up sick #ty people, called me a Nazi, Rapist, Racist, and other #ty words.
So # you, and # all the Liberals, you people started this bull#.
originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist
Also....
What is up with all the victim pity parties...
“Oh somebody called me a name!! “
I watch conservatives give speeches about snowflakes.. then snowflake in exactly the same sentence..
originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: dfnj2015
You try to project this opened mindedness coming from a place of reason and logic. You probably dont even recognize your intentional jabs at the Right even as being such. You, on the left, want to regulate things to your preference... and you will try to pretend (maybe you even believe) it comes from a place of intellectual superiority. You seem to suggest that the vast majority of wealth resides on the right. There is no tolerance for ideas that differ from your own, I must be a bad person or just a stupid person if I dont agree with your reasoning and pseudo truths.
I think you should join a commune or a Eutopian type society... dont start your own, join someone else's. I expect that you would quickly begin to understand where the right comes from, but it would depend on your actual intelligence as to how quick you gained understanding.
I am sure that you have grandiose ideas of a perfect society, but until you gain understanding of your own self serving societal drive, you will find a way to blame that which you dont understand
originally posted by: SouthernForkway26
a reply to: dfnj2015
All forms of government are corrupt. The government should operate as close to anarchy as possible. The strength of our country comes from our citizens, not our government.
The economic efficiency of government vs. private corporations favors the private corporations every time in every single industry. Even space and military.
The people in government control the single largest entity on the planet. They often get drunk on more power they could ever have earn in the private sector. That unearned power is what leads to corruption foremost.
Economic inequality isn't a bad thing, unless you're the type who likes to keep up with the Jones's. Our government should treat us as equals under the law, not make us economic equals. Reality is that not everybody is equal. Some people are more intelligent, more educated, or a harder worker, etc. We shouldn't use the government to force us to be economically equal.
Government programs like Section 8 provide dependency. We are to the point where these programs do more harm than good. Once someone becomes dependent on these subsidies they rarely become independent and free ever again.
The most unrelatable thoughts I have with liberals is that they seem to have given up on the idea they can ever become wealthy, or even moderately successful themselves. I was raised in lower middle class but have done well so far, and my future prospects look good. I want to reap the benefits of risking it all on myself, or else why would put I put it on the line?
The “right” of today agree with literally anything Trump does regardless of their values.
what has he really done that everyone agrees with????
You can’t expect for liberals to congratulate him for passing some conservative policy that only conservatives like..
originally posted by: Variable2027
a reply to: Gryphon66
I didn’t make the claim nore did I say it was wrong, I asked for proof, aren’t you supposed to be able to back a claim with proof?
Now, we must take the next step forward and guarantee every man, woman and child in our country basic economic rights – the right to quality health care, the right to as much education as one needs to succeed in our society, the right to a good job that pays a living wage, the right to affordable housing, the right to a secure retirement, and the right to live in a clean environment. We must recognize that in the 21st century, in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, economic rights are human rights. That is what I mean by democratic socialism.
Ocasio-Cortez has likened her view of democratic socialism to Scandinavian social democracy. The congresswoman's progressive platform consists of a single-payer health care system that covers all forms of health care.
"We're talking about single-payer health care that has already been successful in many different models, from Finland to Canada to the UK,” she said.
Ocasio-Cortez, who is still paying off her student loans, also believes in tuition-free public colleges and universities. Her platform includes guaranteeing Americans a living wage that maintains "basic levels of dignity so that no person in America is too poor to live," Ocasio-Cortez said. "That's what democratic socialism means in 2018, and not this kind of McCarthyism Red Scare of a past era.”
The economic efficiency of government vs. private corporations favors the private corporations every time in every single industry.
Arguing to adopt a new equity statement for the city of Oak Park, Buchanan lost her marbles and started telling the white men on the board they have no right to an opinion.
"I don't want to hear what you have to say!" she yelled. "Why do you have an opinion on equity? You have been white from birth...why are you arguing 'what is a system of oppression?' You've never experienced one. Just stop Dan. Stop Dino. You are not oppressed...You stop it. You are a white male."
Then she turned to a non-white male of Middle Eastern descent, Mayor Anan Abu-Taleb and said, "Your skin is white enough."
originally posted by: onthedownlow
a reply to: dfnj2015
You try to project this opened mindedness coming from a place of reason and logic. You probably dont even recognize your intentional jabs at the Right even as being such.