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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth
"That is the point - not some resignation and press release now."
Seems like current news is the point. Actually.
originally posted by: EartOccupant
So Hunter Biden steps.. or falls down from his positions.
1. If nothing wrong? Why not stay?
2. Being fired? For not delivering the honeypot because Daddy and the Bitsc did not won?
3. If he was such valuable asset for the company... why is he not any more?
4. If it was moral in the first place... be a man!
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originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth
"That is the point - not some resignation and press release now."
Seems like current news is the point. Actually.
Nice side-step - you claim this is some kind of 'moral high road' move, ignoring the fact that Hunter took the job while his father was actually in office - more importantly. he only got the job because his daddy was VP.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: UKTruth
Are you sure?
It was ratified by the Senate in October 1999.
www.congress.gov...
Latest Senate Action
10/18/2000
Resolution of advice and consent to ratification agreed to in Senate by Division Vote.
In such a case, doesn't the president have to finalize the ratification? Did Clinton do so?
In any case, why the back channel? Shouldn't that sort of thing be handled by the DOJ? Instead of Trumps personal attorney?
Seems Giuliani's involvement would nullify actions under the treaty. It's specified that the authority lies only with the Attorney General or someone authorized by him.
Article 1(4) states explicitly that the Treaty is not intended to create rights in private parties to obtain, suppress, or exclude any evidence, or to impede the execution of a request.
Yes - I am sure. Agreed with Kiev by the Clinton administration and ratified by Congress.
There's no back channel. The DoJ have been invloved. The transcript specifically mentions Guilliani working with the DoJ.
You've got nothing , except an entrenchment in the Democrat scam.
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: missed_gear
You can't quote even a little bit of it which might be relevant?
Was the treaty ratified?
THis bit should be conclusive enough:
To the Senate of the United States:
With a view to receiving the advice and consent of the Senate to ratification, I transmit herewith the Treaty Between the United States of America and Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters with Annex, signed at Kiev on July 22, 1998.
I transmit also, for the information of the Senate, an exchange of notes which was signed on September 30, 1999, which provides for its provisional application, as well as the report of the Department of State with respect to the Treaty.
The Treaty is one of a series of modern mutual legal assistance treaties being negotiated by the United States in order to counter criminal activities more effectively. The Treaty should be an effective tool to assist in the prosecution of a wide variety of crimes, including drug trafficking offenses. The Treaty is self-executing. It provides for a broad range of cooperation in criminal matters. Mutual assistance available under the Treaty includes: taking of testimony or statements of persons; providing documents, records, and articles of evidence; serving documents; locating or identifying persons; transferring persons in custody for testimony or other purposes; executing requests for searches and seizures; assisting in proceedings related to restraint, confiscation, forfeiture of assets, restitution, and collection of fines; and any other form of assistance not prohibited by the laws of the requested state.
It was ratified by the Senate in October 1999.
So the sham impeachment enquiry you are cheering on is based on your President following an agreed treaty ratified by the Senate.
Gives more than a little to help you understand why there has been no floor vote and the House has decided to conduct secret and exclusive hearings, whilst cherry picking statements to the media. Its an election strategy, pure and simple. Democrats are hoping there are enough idiots who will buy it.
originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: IAMTAT
Yes. And it was a bad idea then, just as it would be a bad idea now.
originally posted by: Maroboduus
"Nice side-step - you claim this is some kind of 'moral high road' move, ignoring the fact that Hunter took the job while his father was actually in office - more importantly. he only got the job because his daddy was VP."
Too bad you dont have any self-awareness,
or you would realize just how incredibly stupid it is to complain about this while all of Trump's unqualified children now have government jobs
and security clearance in spite of them not being approved by the people who are normally in charge of such things.
You know, when our government actually functions as a democracy
rather than a dictatorship, as it currently does under Trump.