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originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: celltypespecific
Why isn't there a technically sophisticated version of MUFON...? [...]
I would guess there's very little money in it. I would just like them to have a tightly monitored comment section where we could leave a quick message that says, "Hey, that's a lens flare because you're pointing your camera at a bright light source," or "That's the IR light from your security camera reflecting off a spider web," or whatever. Not to harass the photographers, but also to help them out so they know what to look for and maybe get a better photo next time.
Something does not add-up..
It would be nice to have a good, independent and impartial place to store and post and discuss UFOs that wouldn't involve digging through questionable hoax sites. (Nice try, ATS, but you know your limitations.) But I guess that's what disinformation is about. Hiding the goods in plain sight by surrounding it with obvious nonsense.
originally posted by: MichelleBearty
I saw the same thing in Panama city Florida around the same time period I have video and photos a reply to: Blue Shift
originally posted by: roadgravel
So it is video'd off a monitor that is digitally zoomed?
originally posted by: Blue Shift
Some activity in the Gulf near the Florida panhandle. Some guy got a decent video of something puzzling in the Panama City Beach area:
MTS format HD video (161MB - pretty big)
www.mufoncms.com...
The UFO shows up best in the second half of the video. Very sparkly. Seems to have a long tail of some kind (refueling line? triangular extended legs?) Not a bird or ordinary plane. Seems to be able to stay motionless, but then takes off very quickly at the end of the video. Curious. Here's his attempt to zoom in:
www.mufoncms.com...
Here's my attempt to get a still. It doesn't seem to be very big. Not representative of the sparkling / flashing:
originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Blue Shift
I'm always skeptical of these sightings when they occur near Air force bases.
I always wonder if they are working on something not known to the public yet.
originally posted by: vlawde
It could be reflections from the sun off the object I see, but I doubt it. The 'lights' appear to cycle in the same pattern over and over. If I had to guess, it's either a military craft or some type of drone
originally posted by: ufoorbhunter
a reply to: Blue Shift
Being honest and realistic it looks like a clustering group of white type ufo orbs in flight formation. Great find
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Blue Shift
Single engine fighter in afterburner. Draken International is standing up their Mirage F1, and Cheetah aircraft for the upcoming Commercial Red Air contracts for the DoD. One of the locations they're working on them is Lakeland, FL.
originally posted by: markymint
Very easy to say what it is for sure (thanks to your pic). It's a passenger/wide-body jet tilting a little to the left, glinting in the sunlight. Flashing areas are at the logical points of wing tips and the tail for that particular tilt. As seen in the pic by LookingAtMars. Pretty common sight tbf. Slow-mo version is misleading. Few moments at full speed when in focus but yeah that pic does the job perfectly
It does look a bit weird when planes do this shimmering, and there are some variables there like sun position and time of day I think, but keep an eye out, you'll see one shimmering like this sometime.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: markymint
Another very distinct possibility. It matches an aircraft almost perfectly, it's just a natter of type. Commercial or military design.
originally posted by: markymint
Ok check the pic again, looks like there is a 2 (or maybe a 7, or a blue right pointing arrow/dash like a logo) in a white circle on the back tail & a black written word on the underside of the right wing.
looks a bit like a paper aeroplane lol, that kind of clunky shape... some kind of advertising plane? panama city beach... in france it'd be a prop plane with a banner, this has that kind of vibe. Sighting date says 30th May 2019, maybe flight radar data doesn't go back that far... wings look to be right at the back which is a bit odd, doesn't quite match USAF thunderbirds though again a bit of a vibe.
originally posted by: markymint
Hmm yes true about the tail in the photo, the video looks/feels a bit different (on the whole). Looks Russian in that video frame capture someone took on the last page sure... But the pic above is a still photo (not a video frame capture) and appears to show it in much more detail. Looks to have forward swept wings in that photo to me. no idea what to attribute that to, google says Grumman X-29...! assuming the thing in the photo is the same thing in the video, sighting date of may 2019 is a bit suspect.
Got a slight suspicion the photo exists to justify a video of a shimmering passenger jet. what's going on in the photo does not seem to match the HQ video footage, where is the shimmer in the photo, and if no shimmer, where are the "glowing alien lights" from the video? not there. Photo - some other aeroplane (would like to say its a paper aeroplane but probably not...). Video - shimmering passenger jet. put them together and whadda ya get? fooled peeps.
Well, I can't see anything alien in either the photo or video myself. just planes, with wings, and tails, and maybe logos lol.
originally posted by: markymint
Interesting point! I'm thinking now then that the photo is a model airplane, the logos/writings are decals. looks like the kind the local model flying club would fly around. Model planes don't need to be ergonomic? And I imagine people fly forward swept winged ones (perhaps because they don't fly at full scale anymore as you say). Photo camera is Sony ILCE-6000 and checks out on the reported date of the sighting, video isn't giving much info, can't confirm if it's the same camera.
So I'm guessing some dude took a photo of a model plane at the local flying club or nearby in May 2019. they sure didn't upload their "photos and videos" for months after...but more recently captured a shimmering jet or sth (seen in the video) and decided that was the right time to play games and merge it with his model plane photo. MUFON database has some real "playas" on there.
either way thanks for the aviation ideas. I'll be moving on now
this one is pretty cool...wait for the closeup! (maybe a cloud? saw it whilst searching the recent Florida ones for ops report) www.mufoncms.com...
originally posted by: Blue Shift
originally posted by: gallop
a reply to: Blue Shift
How can you tell that? There is no context to it's movement. The camera moves, making it look like it moves, but no context.. Enlarging such a small image doesn't add detail to it, either.
There are some light clouds in the background you can use for reference. For something supposedly blasting an afterburner (at fairly high altitude), it sure doesn't appear to have a lot of movement. And in the last few frames of its appearance it accelerates extremely fast to the right. It's not a slow ramp up. It's like somebody shot it out of a slingshot. The larger HD file shows it best.
And I really tried to find an image of a Cheetah to match the angle and configuration, but couldn't do it. So, with that, and what I perceive as unusual flashing and movement, I will personally keep this in my "hmmm..." file, rather than just dump it, if you don't mind.
Not that you guys aren't right. But I'm not sure you proved your case. No harm, no foul.
originally posted by: celltypespecific
Why isn't there a technically sophisticated version of MUFON...?
We have ready access to high tech off the shelf equipment that can be used to accurate detect a UAP.
For example one can easily organize arrange a UAP/UFO guide/investigation off the coast of San Diego (were Nimtiz occurred) purchase high end drones or off-shelf weather balloons equipped with HD infar-red cameras.
There should be a way to build an off-the shelf radar system.
Its just astounding that after 70 YEARS there has been no crystal clear proof of a UAP/UFO.....
Remember with the gimbal/go fast event...the pilots reported seeing these UAPs almost DAILY....
Something does not add-up..