DOJ Moves To Block Democrats Hypothetical Removal Proceedings Impeachment Fakery

This is breaking late on Friday evening that the DOJ has filed a
brief to block the Democrats fake Impeachment probe.

BREAKING: DOJ has filed a 40-page brief arguing that the Judiciary Committee's "impeachment investigation" really isn't one. Cites Pelosi and Hoyer's statements form *yesterday* as evidence.

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From the looks of this filing, which cites the Pelosi's own words
as proof that there is no impeachment happening, the Dem's
have been delivered a death blow.

No official judicial hearings; no recognition or authority.

This means that the Dems are not going to get the
unredacted Mueller report, or transcripts.

Nice move from the DOJ to preserve the rule of law!

The department argues that impeachment proceedings in Congress "including hypothetical removal proceedings in the Senate -- are not 'judicial proceedings' under the plain and ordinary meaning of that term."

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Frankly speaking, I have no idea why the Dems would want to further
embarrass and humiliate themselves with more of the Mueller report.

But it is fun watching them twist and turn in the wind.

ETA:
DOJ Filing

DOJ Moves To Block Democrats Hypothetical Removal Proceedings Impeachment Fakery

You mean DOJ tries to prevent Congress from exercising its Constitutional right, granted to it by the Constitution of the United States of America?

That should concern every American, but apparently some think it's just fine.

Nice move from the DOJ to preserve the rule of law!

You mean subvert the rule of law and Congress's Constitutional right of checks and balances against the executive branch?

a reply to: Liquesence

Check how? They are just going to rehash what Mueller spent all those long months digging through with a fine tooth comb. Are you now saying Mueller was incompetent at his job?

How many times do you allow someone to be investigated for the same thing before you decide that enough is enough? Special Counsel investigations are supposed to be the toughest and best.

a reply to: Liquesence

Do you not understand that Congress, neither The House
nor The Senate has approved an impeachment proceeding?

The Democrats must follow the rule of law, they can
not just make things up as they go, like they did in
the FISA abuse C O U P.

originally posted by: Liquesence

DOJ Moves To Block Democrats Hypothetical Removal Proceedings Impeachment Fakery

You mean DOJ tries to prevent Congress from exercising its Constitutional right, granted to it by the Constitution of the United States of America?

That should concern every American, but apparently some think it's just fine.

Nice move from the DOJ to preserve the rule of law!

You mean subvert the rule of law and Congress's Constitutional right of checks and balances against the executive branch?

You have it all BACKWARDS, except for the "It's fine". You got that part right, it is very fine.

originally posted by: Liquesence

DOJ Moves To Block Democrats Hypothetical Removal Proceedings Impeachment Fakery

You mean DOJ tries to prevent Congress from exercising its Constitutional right, granted to it by the Constitution of the United States of America?

That should concern every American, but apparently some think it's just fine.

Nice move from the DOJ to preserve the rule of law!

You mean subvert the rule of law and Congress's Constitutional right of checks and balances against the executive branch?

Perhaps you don't really understand.

If they wanted an Impeachment inquiry, they simply need to bring it before the House and vote on it.

NOT have Nadless attempt to do the same from a subcommittee.

Now, the reason that will never happen is that there are a lot of Democrats in the House that are from Trump districts and there is no damn way they would vote for impeachment proceedings because that would mean they wouldn't have a job next election cycle.

HOWEVER.

Nadler is facing an election where an AOC type is threatening his position... he's going to get primaried unless he does something grand.

So he's making something that he CALLS an "Impeachment Whatever" that actually isn't at all.

The DOJ is correct here and you are 100% wrong.

a reply to: Liquesence

checks and balances against the executive branch

It's been checked and its now completely out of balance..

Democrats demanded an investigation based on fake evidence, when they didn't get the guilty response they wanted, they simply rehashed it and tried again...

There's nothing new to warrant a new investigation..

Its designed to waste the Presidents time & the governments time and to flood the airwaves with ''Trump bad'' hysteria..

on.. and on.. and on.. all the way to the election!..

hang traitors from the lamp posts so it sends a warning to others!

a reply to: burntheships

Cites Pelosi and Hoyer's statements form *yesterday* as evidence.

I don't know, there might be merit behind the DOJ filing. But, politicians lie to the press and the American people all day long and that has never been evidence of anything. I think what really matters is the wording of the resolution they voted on.

I can't find that though. Does anyone have the text of the rules for this impeachment investigation that the committee voted on?

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Liquesence

Do you not understand that Congress, neither The House
nor The Senate has approved an impeachment proceeding?

The Democrats must follow the rule of law, they can
not just make things up as they go, like they did in
the FISA abuse C O U P.

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The house, not the DOJ, not the Supreme court, not ANY ONE ELSE, can say what is and is not an impeachment proceeding.

originally posted by: Pyle

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Liquesence

Do you not understand that Congress, neither The House
nor The Senate has approved an impeachment proceeding?

The Democrats must follow the rule of law, they can
not just make things up as they go, like they did in
the FISA abuse C O U P.

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

The house, not the DOJ, not the Supreme court, not ANY ONE ELSE, can say what is and is not an impeachment proceeding.

Exactly correct.

The House of Representatives defines it.

A subcommittee in the House does not.

They need to take it to a vote before the House.

I seriously hope they do!!!

The ramifications for the Dems would be... staggering, politically.

Jerry Nadler should carry a houseplant with him at all times, to replace the oxygen he wastes.

He is living in his own little world, and the Attorney General has refused to play make-believe...

I think he is terrified at what Trump's DOJ may be inclined to look into, further on down the road...

originally posted by: burntheships
a reply to: Liquesence

Do you not understand that Congress, neither The House
nor The Senate has approved an impeachment proceeding?

The Democrats must follow the rule of law, they can
not just make things up as they go, like they did in
the FISA abuse C O U P.

The senate has nothing to do with impeachment until there is a trial.

The House sets up its own rules on how to bring impeachment charges to the Senate for trial.

Nixon's likely impeachment was started in the House Judiciary Committee not the full house.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

They can vote on a measure, but that does not give
them an actual legal basis to request privileged
documents through the courts.

Here is the actual DOJ filing.
www.politico.com...

originally posted by: Liquesence

DOJ Moves To Block Democrats Hypothetical Removal Proceedings Impeachment Fakery

You mean DOJ tries to prevent Congress from exercising its Constitutional right, granted to it by the Constitution of the United States of America?

That should concern every American, but apparently some think it's just fine.

Nice move from the DOJ to preserve the rule of law!

You mean subvert the rule of law and Congress's Constitutional right of checks and balances against the executive branch?

If you believe in gun control and hate speech? You don't have a right to bring up the Constitution only when it conveniences your political ideology!
It's sickening to listen to people who support a political agenda to take away our rights bring up the Constitution in the ways the left do while ignoring every damn thing about it that threatens their power to control every thing us little people do.

a reply to: Pyle

Again, The House did not vote to approve impeachment proceedings.

What about this is so difficult to understand?

So they have no power of a judicial probe, because they
are not authorized to do so. And yes, tough as it is
for them there are laws that must be followed.

The House tabled the vote, here is video of
that happening.

a reply to: burntheships

Thanks. But I'm looking for the wording that the Judiciary Committees adopted for the rules of this "impeachment investigation", that they voted on yesterday.

a reply to: Liquesence

You mean You then Support the Subversion of the Rule of Law and Congress's Constitutional Duty to have a Truthful Discourse when it comes to the Slandering of a Fellow America Citizens Good Name with Vicious Unsubstantiated Accusations , and then without Suffering the Consequences if Proven to be an Error in Judgement ? Better go Check your Little Red Book again Son , that Dawg Don't Hunt .............

a reply to: Sookiechacha

If you do find it, I would be interested to see the wording.
Although, it is just a committee, and at that level
they really do not have any authority.

This isn't like a month or so ago when Pelosi walked out
of a hearing, and the chair abandoned his post.

That's all the Dem's are capable of at this point
is creating chaos. Someone has to stop this
nonsense!

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: burntheships

Thanks. But I'm looking for the wording that the Judiciary Committees adopted for the rules of this "impeachment investigation", that they voted on yesterday.

The Reader's Digest condensed version...

We still need to keep fishing for something (ANYTHING!!!) we can use against Trump because we can't win elections with a good economy and Americans doing better under Orange Man. RRhheeeeee!!!!

Hope that helped.

a reply to: burntheships

It seems like to DOJ's major objection involves the definition of "judicial proceedings". So, it would be helpful to see the wording of the Judicial Committee's "rules" for this "so called" investigation, to see how Nadler applies the term, if he does.


ETA: I found this: judiciary.house.gov...

It's the House Judiciary Committee application for "certain grand jury materials.