It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel
The point of "dead to the law" is that we and the law are separated. Paul begins Romans ch7 with the analogy of marriage- once one partner (either partner) is dead, they are no longer married.
originally posted by: bally001
a reply to: ScatteredThirdAngel
I have always had trouble rendering the scriptures with regards the sexes. An example is what was contained in the video. Have a slow look at the video again. The laws are aimed at men. They make women look like the temptresses batting their eyelids. Do not covert them.
Men, "Don't behave badly." Thou shalt not covert thy neighbors wife. How about, in the interests of today's sexuality there is, "Thou shalt not covert thy neighbors partner."
The scriptures were written in the days of men, sure. Time to adjust. Either rewrite the commandments to include women or then Christianity is lost. Makes out that men are the evil doers and women are their temptation. That's my thoughts.
originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: GBP/JPY
When religion started it helped establish the rules of the culture, don't kill and stuff. Now we have the government drawing the line between right and wrong.
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
All of what I am not sure if I am getting it across, but all the ten commandments but Sabbath observance was taught by Paul. There is now a place where we can do those laws without any sin and death that normally came by the law. We are free from the result of observing law of Moses, which is the recognition of sin and ts resulting in death. For the Christian it is life.
Romans 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.