Leopard print apparel for young girls is wrong

a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses

I have never seen such a thing. Have you? To conjure up the image, it's just ridiculous.

www.google.com... AUIESgB&biw=1440&bih=7


Guess you can cross that off your bucket list.

a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses

This is only an issue for men who think women dress for them.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Most young girls dress to be noticed or to fit in. While the reason for their choice may be innocent, I can assure that I have collected more of those items of clothing then I ever wanted to. We don't live in a world were children are free to be children anymore. I applaud the OP for being aware and trying to protect his child, I have cared for way too many children were the parents don't.

I know that my job makes me a bit more sensitive to this subject than most, but I am not being overly critical nor am I overstating the concerns that we should all have as a society. Children have always been targets but this brave new world has taken the problem to a whole new level.

Just to make sure that it is not overlooked, there are times that the number of boys I have per month is greater than the number of girls. Boys are not safer than girls, just more likely "not" to tell anyone.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Some things send off signals too.

Show yourself off and you excite. Excite the wrong people in the wrong situations and you have your hands full. If you're lucky, that's all you have is your hands full fending off unwanted advances. Do it in a place where the really wrong kind of person lurks and you trigger a response you may not be able to handle.

That's exactly what a good friend told his 19 yr old daughter when she went out clubbing wearing next to nothing . They had a massive row and she went out like that anyway saying she would be 'fine' , as they do . I hate that word myself , it's THE epitomy of seriously poor appraisal skills . Anyway ,

she got exactly that , what she was told would happen , eyes and hands all over her at the club , and she gets annoyed , complains to the bouncers . At that the bouncers said "don't dress like such a tart then , or you're inviting them " and she was like 'f off ' the same as she said to her dad , and then they kicked her out ! And then she even comes back complaining that the bouncers won't do anything and had told her to leave , ruined her night , all that .

So with that in mind I don't think the op is wrong to stop , think , and make choices for his child , when that particular young lady was 7 she got whaaatever she wanted , and knew how to get it too . I don't think it's out of the question to just front up directly to the child what the issues of potential concern are anyway , not to scare her just to outline what the chances are .

That said I don't believe in repression , forcing kids to wear burkas is more wrong than letting them experiment . Keeping up with contemporaries might be the motive to branch out and of course girls are going to be interested in clothes of all kinds . It might reflect on you as parents what you do let them wear though leopard spots is not a problem unless the rest of the outfit is decked as a christmas tree , then you're into problems . Problems of stereotyping if nothing else . I remember a work mate and I seeing a girl similar age wearing a shiny pvc skirt and those knee high shiny boots , riding her bike round in the street . Both of us said , what are her parents thinking ? Is that ever a good idea , etc . But someone manufactured that kit , someone put it on sale and then someone bought it because their daughter wanted to wear it. Can't help feeling slightly sorry or ashamed for who paid for that , but in the meantime some girls are not entirely naive at that age , even though most people would blanket out that thought . It's a tricky one op but you've got the right intentions , and it's fair to say there's a lot of leering nasty little w**nkers in the world , not just a few . Even some of them are women , and even some mothers are not to be trusted even with their own daughters . Sorry to have to say that but it's true .

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

A person posed a question and you decided to grab your soapbox and, not a step of hesitation, not a stutter, just moan and bitch

Simple question asking for a simple answer, why not just offer up something nice, simple and precise

You are a control freak, you use moaning and bitching to control, sad really

Doesn’t work on me, I don’t need what you are selling, all you can do is try get in my face to control me, just like your post

Happy to break down your post and show you the control freak aspect of it if you like

Otherwise, go save a hippy or something

Well your opinion does not matter...... look how many stars she received.

Who cares if it doesn't work on you?

Is it just the posters name that provokes such a response.... and not the actual content of the post?

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Stop being a control freak woman...
I made no comment on what kids should wear, just your moaning and bitching a simple question

You are incredibly rude and arrogant, sick of people like you going on and on and on and on
Learn some decorum and stop picking fights you aren’t smart enough to win

I never made a comment about what children should or shouldn’t wear, just people moaning and ranting at others at simple questions

I won’t be controlled by a ranting feminist, scoot toots 🦄🌈😬

Yes you are totally off topic no mention of what kids should wear... .. 3 posts so far just bitching and moaning and trying to bully and control a particular poster.....

First, an admission. I don't have children, so my opinion is purely based on how I was raised (my instilled values).

I'm a 48 year old man. I was raised in the 70's and 80's. Growing up and going to school, I saw my fair share of risque attire on girls. As a boy, I remember being stirred by what girls wore. It's just human nature. What a girl wears matters, just as what a boy wears matters. I've seen many a girl swoon over a boy for the same reason.

What it really comes down to is the values and ideals a parent wants to instill in their children. It's not up to someone else to tell a parent what is the right or wrong way to raise their kids. OP decided to share his situation with the forum and people immediately started lecturing him and berating him for his desire to protect his child.

I am glad, in this day and age, that parents actually still care enough to set limits for their children, to protect them. After all, that's what parents are supposed to do.

Society has changed for the worse, I think. Traditional gender roles are demonized for the sake of equality, when in fact, these are the roles that men and women are most happy in. Now that's not to say men should be controlling womanizers or abusers. It's not to say that women shouldn't work. What I'm saying is there is validity in traditional gender roles (dare I say, Biblically assigned roles), which provide a strong foundation for children to be raised properly to become productive members of society; and good parents themselves. A good family structure instills values that you can't get otherwise.

People want you to believe that the old way of thinking is obsolete and the new way of thinking is the only one that's relevant (i.e. societal norms have changed, get with the times). Protecting your kids is always relevant.

I think we can all see the writing on the wall with the way society is going, but that's a whole other discussion.

My personal view is if a parent cares enough to do the right thing for their children, it's a good thing. What society thinks doesn't matter. What matters is what feels right and true and you know it in your gut, in your heart. I have no doubt I'd make the same decision OP did.

That's my humble opinion. I'm just a guy with some life experience.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

My opinion didn’t matter hence why I didn’t offer it, what, another moaning woman with a hormone imbalance, go wash some dishes or iron something

originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: TiredofControlFreaks
a reply to: Raggedyman

Oh and in case you have any further questions:

I don't usually get called "sweetie".....twice!

And I usually speak my mind whether some man likes it or not. Nobody pays my mortgage but me and I have earned the right. I didn't assume superiority just because of a dick between my legs.

I didn’t and still don’t have any questions for a hysterical gender of whatever sex with or without penis envy

Please and younare welcome to speak your mind, it’s not my business but
If you are going to rant like a banshee, expect blowback

As I said, I didn’t say you were wrong, just questioned your ranting and moaning

Toodles toots, had enough of you and your tantrums

Yes she is boring you and you have had enough of her......
so stop writing to her then!!!!

a reply to: Raggedyman
Why are you on this thread?
Obviously not because of the actual thread..... just come to bully people.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

originally posted by: Raggedyman
a reply to: TiredofControlFreaks

Stop being a control freak woman...
I made no comment on what kids should wear, just your moaning and bitching a simple question

You are incredibly rude and arrogant, sick of people like you going on and on and on and on
Learn some decorum and stop picking fights you aren’t smart enough to win

I never made a comment about what children should or shouldn’t wear, just people moaning and ranting at others at simple questions

I won’t be controlled by a ranting feminist, scoot toots 🦄🌈😬

Yes you are totally off topic no mention of what kids should wear... .. 3 posts so far just bitching and moaning and trying to bully and control a particular poster.....

It’s the parents decision not mine, your opinion is important too...to someone else, not me.

Two posts and you are just moaning and bitching at me
What is it with some women, calm down, you are pandering to feminist angst and stereotyping yourself into a pantomime parody character

Nothing wrong with leopard print tights as long as they are tastefully paired with 6" Perspex heels.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Raggedyman
Why are you on this thread?
Obviously not because of the actual thread..... just come to bully people.

And you and your moaning girlie crew are not

Shake it off poppet, grow up

a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses

Well, look at the bright side...at least she didn't want to dress up as a rabbit!

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk


You got a problem with Furries?

a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses

When I think of anything with leopard print I associate it with Peggy Bundy.*



* not sure if this is the name of the Married with Children mom.I haven't watched
that show in years.

Obviously this thread has served its purpose, but in my opinion, you are in the right. Really it shouldn't even be a big issue. I got a little frustrated with a few people in this thread who are really blowing this thing out of the water.

As an involved parent, you have the right to make specific decisions for your child based on your experiences and the events that go on in the world. That's called good parenting, a child is free to express their opinion and what they want, and of course should never really be put down for doing so. However up to a certain age, like you expressed, they just aren't fit to make the right decisions for themselves.

Obviously you need to exercise some flexibility and creativity as you continue down the road, and if you ever get into a fight with your daughter or wife over something like this, then you would just take that as a learning experience.

You seem pretty open minded, and a few of your responses gave me a nice chuckle, so I think you're gonna be fine. Use your best judgement and ride it out. Over-analyzing can easily lead to madness, it seems a touch of that madness has leaked into the minds of some in this thread.

Anyhow, have a good Sunday, and ride the wave my man.

Get a leopard printed backpack.

If she likes it fine.

Either way I see both sides.

Tough time to be a Dad.

Wow what a mine field this thread has become from a simple parental question.

I'm a woman and a mother and in my mind leopard skin is also associated with a certain sexual signal, unless, and that is very rare, it's used with cleverness. It's in most cases an example of poor taste.
As for children I guess it depends if is a tight, inappropriate outfit or just a playful shirt or something that kids like.
It's your decision after all.
As a parent you are absolutely within your rights to decide what is appropriate or not for your daughter to wear, as is our duty to also educate and protect our children from dangers they may not perceive yet. As an adult you may want also to pass on your values and your ideas of right and wrong, and it's funny how nobody talks about values anymore.

Even more so, as a man I would completely rely on your opinion about what is appropriate or not on a very young girl as you may be able to understand how other men perceive those things.
One thing you will discover as a parent is that everyone is doing the parenting thing in their own way, and there will always be someone to tell you how wrong you are doing it. But if you have something of value you received from your parents then pass it on to your kids and you will all be fine. And rest assured that the society will have the chance to do enough damage either you want it or not.

a reply to: DictionaryOfExcuses
Children are growing up in a pornified culture.
Watch this
Leopard print is the least of your worries, I am sorry to say.