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Trump is going to lose the election

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posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 08:39 AM
a reply to: shooterbrody

Everyone is owned shooterbrody, to one extent or the other, even the mighty USA, no perhaps about that fact.

We built and populated a significant proportion of your nation.

All that from a tiny island.

No Man is an island shooterbrody, nor nation that stands alone nether.

And a lot of the banking houses that hail from this "tiny island" own your federal reserve.

It's not predominantly about the size of your military penis anymore.

Economics Trump's substantial conflict in most first-world nations in this day of age.

World fist, America in her place, which for the time being is at the helm.
edit on 23-8-2019 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 08:40 AM
a reply to: Serdgiam

It's not even about wanting the best for everyone, but about sharply disagreeing on how best to achieve that.

I can't think of many people who don't want the best for everyone, but wanting the best doesn't necessarily mean just giving everything to someone.

To me and to a lot of folks, the best means sincerely making an effort to fix the things going wrong in a person's life that leads them to living at a substandard level compared to others.

When we see homeless people on the streets, for example, there were real and present decisions and choices that very often led to that state on the part of the people themselves or there are very real and present conditions that hamper them. Simply taking them off the streets and attempting to give them means, things won't correct or address those issues or thought processes that brought them so low.

Unless you uncover and address those root issues that are going wrong with the person, you won't fix their problem and material goods aren't going to do that, but most of the solutions we see tossed around always, always center on taking more stuff and giving more stuff as if stuff itself (money mainly) is the only problem.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 08:41 AM
a reply to: andy06shake
no thanks
I disagree
and I get to vote
good thing you globalists don't

give us a call when you need bailed out again
we will answer
until then america first

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 08:45 AM
a reply to: shooterbrody

We gave you a call before Peril Harbor and look how that worked out? x

Your nation is simply a cog in the wheel, part and parcel of a larger entity.

Stop being so xenophobic.

We might give you a bell once Trumps dead or gone, same with the rest of the planet.

Until then good luck.

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posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 08:53 AM
a reply to: andy06shake

Ah, the old cog in the wheel thing ... sounds all grand until you're the cog needs replacing and you get discarded and tossed aside into the garbage. Nations are cogs, but the people so much less so, especially when there are billions of them.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 09:08 AM
a reply to: andy06shake

Stop being so xenophobic.

lol nice try globalist
wanting your own nation to be successful is in no way xenophobic
no matter how much you want it to be
I wish no ill will toward the rest of the world, I just refuse to pay for its socialist bs anymore

sad that you keep with the dead trump posts
funny to see you speak for the entire planet

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:06 AM
True Republicans will want to lose the next election, the economy is wrecked thanks to trump, only blinkered trump fanboi types ignore or don't understand it and, Republicans will hope the next recession hits the other team rather than their own.
That would mean an easy election win next cycle.
The only thing that could keep trump in power is a war but, with boltons lies failing to hit home over Iran the rhetoric of some fanciful war at home against some shadowy 'left' is the only one going.
I get it that some crackpots and wingnuts believe, well anything but, to the wider and real electorate they need to see bombs falling. ben shapiro and the like shouting left and chanting socialism is here only plays to those who have zero understanding of real politics or the real world, and they already have maga hats.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:08 AM
a reply to: shooterbrody

LoL nice try xenophobic separatist

I wish our nations all to come together for the correct reasons and not the bankers and financial institutions reason nor agenda.

So we can better our entire species and address the multitude of real problems that are upon us.

American can never be successful without others down to the way our global economy functions.

Plain and simpler really.

What's sad is that you refuse to see the forest for the trees.

I don't speak for the entire planet any more than you do for the American people, something to consider. x

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:13 AM
a reply to: ketsuko

And those people are all over the globe, billions of them that is.

327.2 million in America or around that number.

All striving and competing for the same goals.

People are essentially owned and a commodity of our respective governments, make no mistake about that.

Hence the reason we all get a number to go with our name, well we do in the first world variety anyway.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:16 AM
a reply to: andy06shake
america first is xenophobic separatist
label much?
wanting your own nations success is neither
nice try tho
shaming doesn't work here anymore
you lot have worn it out
i am not embarrassed to want my nation to be successful, and i will no longer fund others at our expense
america is best when self sufficient and has proven so in the past

funny you lot giving directions when you cant even untangle yourselves from the eu
and you wonder why we dont take you seriously

some "entire planet" strategy that is eh?

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:21 AM
a reply to: shooterbrody

People first.

Your POTUS is a xenophobic separatist.

And i think you may find you started with the labels aka calling people "Globalists"

Labels are important, take the warning ones away, and watch the world fall apart at the seams.

There is no shame in unity shooterbrody, after all we are a social animal.

And in the end, we will either come together out of necessity or perish fighting over whats left of our diminishing resources.

Who is this "We"? LoL

You don't have to take anyone seriously, but it won't make our shared problems miraculously disappear nether.
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posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:29 AM
a reply to: andy06shake

People first.

american people
seeing how it is an american election
sell your globalist crap elsewhere

Your POTUS is a xenophobic separatist.

sadly you are mistaken
perhaps intentionally

either way it wont stop his reelection
the kooks who are spouting your nonsense wont even make it past the dnc primary

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:38 AM
a reply to: shooterbrody

American people are people also. LoL

I'm not selling you anything other than common sense.

Again, we live on a glope, or to be more precise an oblate spheroid called Earth, not America.

Sadly Trump causes mass shootings, pain, strife, and confusion, with his mad rhetoric, and luckily that's the racist rock on which he will perish once the majority of your people see the fool for what he is.

Ether way humanity will indeed come together with or without the likes of Trump simply down to necessity, and i think that scares the life out of you.

I can only imagine thats because you share similar xenophobic views to your POTUS.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:39 AM
a reply to: andy06shake

Pleas explain how our POTUS is a xenophobic separatist. Try to use your own words and not talking points.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 10:49 AM
a reply to: andy06shake

Again, we live on a glope, or to be more precise an oblate spheroid called Earth, not America.

this thread is about the upcoming us presidential election, of which trump will win
it appears it has been attempted to have effect similar to the foreign national social media campaign revealed in the 2016 election investigation

Sadly Trump causes mass shootings, pain, strife, and confusion, with his mad rhetoric, and luckily that's the racist rock on which he will perish once the majority of your people see the fool for what he is.

social media from foreign nationals attempting to influence the outcome?
hmm russia much?

wont stop trump 2020

you should look up the definition for xenophobia
I dont think you know what it means

america first entails no ill will toward anyone

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 11:50 AM

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: andy06shake

Ah, the old cog in the wheel thing ... sounds all grand until you're the cog needs replacing and you get discarded and tossed aside into the garbage. Nations are cogs, but the people so much less so, especially when there are billions of them.

Which is why I generally feel that demographics and technology development are both far more important to a person's life than politics. A politician can't stop the Baby Boomers in the US from being old and dying, and politics is mostly about fighting over what to do with their money. As for technology, from what I can see the younger people who were born with computers have a very different attitude toward interpersonal relationships, as well as who they consider to be "one of them." When you're playing video games with some Japanese kid and some Brazilian kid and some Australian kid and you consider them to be something like a friend, your attitudes towards borders and immigrants and even employment are going to be different that those of the old people.

Nothing will replace the job lost to the robots. It'll be a rough time as that notion of a man working at a steel mill to support his wife and kids slowly dies away. But stopping it is impossible. The only thing to do is adapt, or die.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 12:04 PM
a reply to: ketsuko

I dont necessarily disagree.. But, I do know with certainty that there are plenty in this new religion that want the world to burn. I dont mean in the "cleansing" sense that some other religions talk about either. I feel like, for a reasonable person, that sort of thing would be a red flag that maybe your movement is.. Flawed.

I also believe that we can design assistance programs that, by their very nature, discerns between those who need it and those who abuse it. But, also done in ways that fundamentally strengthen our nation.

Instead of currency, we would provide a fully automated aquaponics system. Thats the sort of thing I had designed, though I hadnt worked out the harvesting automation.

Actually, I had designed a full suite of technology that achieves self-sufficiency through automation.. even for someone in my position. Everything from HVAC to water treatment to home theater

So, the idea was to create one time investments that enabled full independence of the recipient. The funding for the "free" systems would be generated by the sale of the systems in the typical market. Its not perfect, but conceptually, I feel its significantly less flawed than "assistance" programs that directly encourage dependency. I have little reason to give it much thought at this point though.

As someone on disability, I am not allowed to use the money I receive to get ahead. Its worded differently, of course, but at its core is the idea that using the money I receive to generate more money will result in me losing my benefits. Its a paltry amount, to be sure, but no matter what I do.. There isnt going to be something that addresses my personal problems. If I wasnt blessed with the family I have, I would most likely be homeless myself. Even with benefits..

I hear plenty state that if basic needs were met instrinsically through society.. why would anyone work? Well, Ill tell you from experience.. That first year or two of being disabled is refreshing in a sense, but then it changes. Ive heard similar from retirees. Its not so much about "work," but doing something everyday that provides interaction, and even meaning, within society. This gets coupled with boredom in a pretty nasty mix.

My personal problems aside, I see a time coming where we will absolutely need to reexamine some of these societal structures, and its not far off. I feel like candidates such as Yang are bringing up critically important topics, but at the same time.. I STRONGLY feel that a UBI will be a destructive policy. So, Im torn on it.. Now, when people talk about it, that will be how things are framed. Its just more of the same; These people bring up issues I hold dear and important and obfuscate them into absurdity and zealotry. Admittedly, the UBI isnt as bad as some others.. Maybe I should run (ha!)

However, I do feel that we can use automation on small scales and in the home, instead of only automating large scale manufacturing, etc. and then asking "whatll we do when automation takes over? Give erryone moneh!"

Im a big fan of decentralization and self-sufficiency though, which again, you can probably imagine how many on the left feel about that!. Can you imagine how strong this nation would become, if in addition to a gun behind every blade of grass, there was no meaningful way to disrupt our food supply, power, or other infrastructure? At the same time, we would spend significantly less and meet the supposed standards of government assistance at a level that is currently impossible. Thats the ideal anyway. The actual implementation would determine its success, and thats where I feel the conservative minded folk shine. But if that sort of thing truly succeeds, we might even be able to have realistic discussions about things like universal healthcare, higher education, etc.

Hell though, whats the point when we have one "side" doing things like proclaiming medical benefits for anyone who sets foot in our nation (without having it figured out for citizens yet!), calling folks who disagree on ANY level nazis, phobes, and cists, and everyone else is just trying to scramble to make sure these folks dont destroy our nation or, dare I say, western civilization..

I guess its hard for me to stop carrying that torch, especially when I see the establishment "leaders" in the US shaping the narrative according to UN directives (like agenda 21/30). I feel like.. If we dont introduce ideas and concepts that directly compete, rather than simply resist this inevitable change on the horizon, those horrific policies will eventually win on the wings of modern propaganda, media, identitarianism, authoritarianism, and religious zealotry.

Getting a bit esoteric and even more verbose, I think we are feeling the event horizon of a crisis in our Cultural Story that is echoing back through time. It will challenge our society and nation(s) in a way we havent seen since the Neolithic Revolution. But if we dont introduce competing ideas, we will continue to slip into neo-feudalism. We need to introduce concepts that, in helping the lowly among us (such as myself), also benefit our society, culture, and nation. I dont believe its ever really been possible before, but it will be very, very soon. And, the absolute last thing "TPTB" want is for us to build a world that renders their methods of influence impotent. A deeply interconnected world of self-sufficient, independent, sovereign nations is the antithesis of what they want to create. Instead, they push "globalism" as we know and "love" it; no borders, horrifically centralized power and authority, and ever deepening dependency.

There is no competing alternative ideology there, its all or nothing, acceptance or rejection. So, with these inevitable changes on the horizon that instrinsically pull us towards a global society, it will shape the world right into that narrative whether we like it or not.

We are writing a story that very, very few of us are going to like. And, those that will enjoy it, also happen to be in the positions to make it happen both overtly and subversively. They simply dont know any better, and dont know how to do anything else.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 12:29 PM
a reply to: shooterbrody

The world will have their opinion shooterbrody like it or lump it I'm afraid.

I don't think I'm mistaken in the slightest, you see suggesting sending coloured people home when they are already American citizens amounts to racism in spades, nevermind sheer stupidity considering they are home.

Trumps the one who is intentionally racist.

If you're looking for kooks spouting nonsense look no further than your current POTUS he's champion at that sport as unfortunate as the case may be.

Anyhoo pub time, enjoy your evening.

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 01:02 PM

enjoy your evening

you as well

posted on Aug, 23 2019 @ 02:41 PM

Trump is going to lose the election

Of course he will.

originally posted by: SailorJerry

I honestly think we are going to lose this next election, I dont want us to , but I think its fixed, hear me out

Who is "we"?

We have seen the rhinos come out of the closet , and are no longer rhinos but leftists, we have seen who we thought were progresive, go full on communism or what they call , democratic socialist.........

You mean sane people?

We know for a fact that the left will accept nothing now but the utter destruction of our republic.

Hmmm..Sorry for what you have going on.

Trump will be one of the first to not get a second term in decades, not because he doesnt deserve it, but because the nation can not HANDLE another Trump presidency and still go socialist........

He was tolerated because business interests could exploit his dull intelligence and ego-disability.
With the economy turning, even that segment of his support has evaporated.

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