What Is The Minimal Velocity For Stars To Appear as Blurs Of Light?

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Yes.
Of course the quality of the documentation would be of import.

a reply to: xuenchen

Thank-you! I thought that was one of the Star Trek TNG shows...but thanks to you, I see it was VOYAGER! Saw it once, many years ago. Will find/watch that episode again tomorrow. Thanks again!

a reply to: carewemust

You know that Trelane is Q, right?

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But the general consensus is you'd have to drop to sub-light speed to send a transmission back to Earth. Otherwise the transmission would never leave the broadcasting antenna, or something like that.

Unless quantum communication can be achieved.
Instant communication anywhere in the universe.

I suppose once humankind becomes that advanced, we can incorporate ourselves into a Quantum packet and go anywhere, instantly.

You would need a suitable environment to go to. We would need the quantum communication and ships to build a suitable environment to go to first. That would take a while to do.

NASA's having a tough time finding enough money to get mankind to the Moon again. So you're right. It will take at least "a while".

At least SpaceX is trying.

It's still very humbling to know that there's so much "out there" to explore, and yet we struggle to get to a ball of rock that only 230,000 miles away.

And disheartening to think maybe we were not meant to. Still to young as a species. If we cannot control our own emotions, as a species, how could we even begin to think we are ready for something more complex?

That's why advanced beings aren't interested in interacting with Earthlings. They just stop here for water, energy from our thunderstorms, and continue on their way.

a reply to: carewemust

Water is pretty much everywhere and thunderstorms don't pack all that much energy on interstellar scales.

originally posted by: Phage
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You know that Trelane is Q, right?

No. Trelane was later determined to be a YellowVest 🎱

originally posted by: Phage
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By making several observations to determine its proper motion and knowing its distance and thus being able to account for light lag.

Ah...so with a properly programmed computer, you could point to the sky and say, "See the Pleiades star cluster up there? Right at this moment, that cluster is over China, on the far side of the planet. Not over the United States, as it appears to our eyes."

Good stuff. Thanks!

a reply to: carewemust

"See the Pleiades star cluster up there? Right at this moment, that cluster is over China, on the far side of the planet. Not over the United States, as it appears to our eyes."

No. The Pleiades are not moving fast enough for there to be such a difference. Nor is any star, or planet for that matter.

originally posted by: Phage
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Science would probably first have to have evidence that consciousness can exist outside of our bodies.

Does "Science" have a leader who can order research into that?

originally posted by: highvein
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Maybe the ships computer could help?

Yeah...that's what Phage was implying. There would be initial calculations to get the ship started in the right direction, and mid-course corrections in flight. The fewer the better.

a reply to: carewemust

No. Science is a process, not an entity.

originally posted by: xuenchen

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originally posted by: Phage
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I don't trust transporter technology. Don't be disassembling me!

The safest route would be figuring out how to empower our "spirit body" to explore the universe. The human spirit is a tangible being, from what I've read. It's not constrained by the same laws our physical body are subject to.

Are you talking OBE's? Because that is what it is sounding like. I agree that we are more than what our avatar's contain.

Yeah...that's it. Out of Body travel. We should be able to trigger it voluntarily. No heart-attack needed. Something for the scientists to work on.

The JASON advisory group is still relevant 🥥

Is JASON an acronym for something? What does that half a coconut stand for?

originally posted by: Phage
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You know that Trelane is Q, right?

Didn't know that. A spoiled child Q.

originally posted by: Phage
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Water is pretty much everywhere and thunderstorms don't pack all that much energy on interstellar scales.

Why did scientists have an orgasm when they found a drop of water on Mars?

Every now and then I see UFO's slowly enter active Thunderheads. They get something out of it.

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Why did scientists have an orgasm when they found a drop of water on Mars?

I didn't know they did, either one. But water ice and water vapor are found just about everywhere.

Every now and then I see UFO's slowly enter active Thunderheads.

Just because you can't identify it, it doesn't mean it's unidentifiable.

originally posted by: Phage
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No. Science is a process, not an entity.

Still it takes a HUMAN to get specific studies started. I guess no human being in authority (like Donald Trump, Bill Gates, etc..) sees Spirit Travel as worthy of investigating. Maybe in a couple hundred years, we'll have leaders who think at a higher level.

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thunderstorms don't pack all that much energy on interstellar scales.

That would depend on the efficiency of their fuel cell.

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The process of science requires that something be measurable, and repeatable.

Woo doesn't cut it.

a reply to: highvein

Not really. A few hundred square kilometers of sunlight packs a lot more energy than a thunderstorm. Scoop hydrogen from a gas giant. A bit of anti-matter...

originally posted by: Phage
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Why did scientists have an orgasm when they found a drop of water on Mars?

I didn't know they did, either one. But water ice and water vapor are found just about everywhere.

You should have told NASA scientists about the prevalence of water in the universe.

At the press conference in 2016, they were thrilled when announcing Water on Mars.

Water on Mars: en.wikipedia.org...