Trump's large union crowd at Shell

and now for the complete headline:

www.post-gazette.com... ance-pay-overtime/stories/201908160113

"Trump's large union crowd at Shell was given the option of not showing up — and not getting paid"

Fascism - the marriage of State and Business.

“Your attendance is not mandatory,” said the rules that one contractor relayed to employees, summarizing points from a memo that Shell sent to union leaders a day ahead of the visit to the $6 billion construction site.

But only those who showed up at 7 a.m., scanned their ID cards, and prepared to stand for hours — through lunch but without lunch — would be paid. “NO SCAN, NO PAY,” a supervisor for that contractor wrote.

The contractor's talking points, preparing his workers for the event read: “No yelling, shouting, protesting or anything viewed as resistance will be tolerated at the event. An underlying theme of the event is to promote good will from the unions. Your building trades leaders and jobs stewards have agreed to this.”

That is just the start. This rally was paid for by Taxpayers.

Trump's Pennsylvania event was funded by taxpayers, and thus legally not supposed to be a campaign-style rally—but the president wasted no time making it exactly that.

www.commondreams.org...

And finally, continuing a pattern of taking credit for things he had no part in....

President Donald Trump sought to take credit Tuesday for a major manufacturing complex in western Pennsylvania in his latest effort to reinvigorate the Rust Belt support that sent him to the White House.

He was cheered on by fluorescent-vest-clad workers who were paid to attend by Shell, their employer, which is building the facility.

Despite Trump’s claims, Shell announced its plans to build the complex in 2012, midway through President Barack Obama’s term in the White House.

The event was billed as an official White House event, but Trump turned much of it into a campaign-style rally, boasting of achievements he claims as president and assailing his would-be Democratic rivals for the 2020 election.

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I don't understand how people continue to support this man? But that's part of fascism as well - supporting the unsupportable.

I just don't get it.

And?

What's the problem here?

Why post from a hardcore leftist rag asking for handouts to keep afloat?

a reply to: FyreByrd

that's part of fascism as well - supporting the unsupportable

You mean how the left supports the Democratic Socialists?

The crowd that was told be there or be broke?
And dont speak out of turn.

I was a teamster and I do not remember them telling me anything like this and I did time on a picket line in NYC.

Anything viewed as resistance will not be tolerated.


got it....

America
America
God shed his grace on thee

So what?
They don't have to be there but if you want to attend you will get a day's pay.
And unless someone produces some evidence that thumps administration put out these stipulations I really don't see what this story has to do with him.

Ah someone else who doesn't understand what fascism is. Too many people do not get it.

And random websites. That's always nice.

I also want to point out that it is some of the Democratic candidates who seek to nationalize the healthcare and pharmaceutical industries. What is Trump nationalizing?

originally posted by: Arnie123
And?

What's the problem here?

Why post from a hardcore leftist rag asking for handouts to keep afloat?

If you are referring to the Post Gazette, you have that right.

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: Arnie123
And?

What's the problem here?

Why post from a hardcore leftist rag asking for handouts to keep afloat?

If you are referring to the Post Gazette, you have that right.

Correction, the Post Gazette is LEFT. Always has been....

Did they make the people smile and cheer too ?

Maybe they got time and a half 😎

I don't know if I'd call it "support", but the main reason many of the silent majority are still willing to plug their nose and cast a vote for Trump is because the opposition is offering nothing other than a larger, uncontained version of the same thing as Trump. They continually fail to comprehend that the how is equally as important as the why. It's how we ended up with Donald freaking Trump in the White House in the first place.

I don't know if I could ever bring myself to vote for Trump, but the only reason I am entertaining the notion is because I feel he will at least be checked.

The Republican party is a ghost at this point. If they had any real clout what-so-ever then Trump wouldn't have been able to run roughshod over their primaries leading up to 2016 with the help of the DNC and a complicit leftwing media. Thus the rightwing would be helpless in checking an ever increasingly authoritarian leftwing growing in response to one buffoon. Which, you may not be aware of yet, but is bad for everyone -- including the leftwing. It's zero-sum warfare.

To put it in Star Wars terms, I couldn't give a damn about your ideology at this point I'm just about restoring balance to the force. I don't want Americans maiming each other (or worse) over a bunch of largely made up and increasingly anachronistic ideological gobbledygook. Trump is an reactionary authoritarian and very scary, but I fail to understand how replacing him with an even scarier reactionary authoritarian regime with no real checks and balances is a viable solution to stamping out reactionary authoritarianism.

Is it really too much to ask that everyone not try to destroy everything you don't like in everyone else? All that mentality gets us is scorched earth.

a reply to: ManWhoWasThursday

Nothing Random about any of the sites quoted,

AP - Associated Press
Major Pittsburgh New Paper
Common Dreams

You don't have anything to say, so don't.

a reply to: Arnie123

I saw it on MSNBC.
They were told if they wanted to get paid for the day. (the plant was closed down for the day) they had to be there punch in stay all day and play nice.

and trump tried to turn it into a rally.
and he tried to take credit for the plant that was started when Obama was president and everyone there knew he was fos.

a reply to: Bluntone22

He only gets a crowd under duress that is the point LOL


Resistance is futile...

Wow, half a days pay for standing around for Trump. That was a great deal for the workers. I never had anything like that happen to me when I worked for others.

The Taxpayers did not pay those people to hang around, Shell did. I do not know if the OP purposely made that up or if he/she/it just parroted someone elses lies.

a reply to: ManWhoWasThursday

Its true it was on national news.

You know the kind the real world gets real information from????

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Arnie123

I saw it on MSNBC.
They were told if they wanted to get paid for the day. (the plant was closed down for the day) they had to be there punch in stay all day and play nice.

and trump tried to turn it into a rally.
and he tried to take credit for the plant that was started when Obama was president and everyone there knew he was fos.

Good for Trump.

Things are heating up and time to take action.

The Trump campaign operates like the US Military, in that they are engage in all apectra of the domains, from print to forums, from aeticles to stats, opinions and blogs, I sanction whatever Trump has to do agaisnt those that mean to take away our American dream and god given rights.

a reply to: xuenchen

Yes.
They were told no yelling, no shouting and that nothing that could be viewed as resistance would be tolerated.
So yeah

They were told not to boo.
And I was watching the crowd. Not everybody cheered and some clapping was half hearted but the cameras were rolling.

originally posted by: FyreByrd
a reply to: ManWhoWasThursday

Nothing Random about any of the sites quoted,

AP - Associated Press
Major Pittsburgh New Paper
Common Dreams

You don't have anything to say, so don't.

The PG is the same damn news paper that propped up Hillary Clinton for 2016 and tried to tell us how horrible of a person Trump was and still is. This also the same paper that propped up the current mayor of Pittsburgh Bill Paduto, and had nothing good to say about the conservative candidates running for mayor.

The PG has let employees go after years of hard work because they voiced their opinions on how the paper was not a neutral news source as it was decades ago.

The President Arrived at Pittsburgh International Airport and greeted the firefighters (before headed to the event) Firefighters who are forced to join the local 1038 Firefighters Union or not work for County/Airport Fire.
Why do hard working people like Firefighters, Nurses And Police need to join a union to work?
Either we sign on the line a swear to the TEAMSTERS, or not get hired. And we must pay our Union Rep every year or face TERMINATION.


These Shell employees got paid to show up if they wished to see Trump, and they did. The others opted to enjoy their day off, And some did. FYI... THE PLANT IS STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

I never had anything like that happen to me when I worked for others

a reply to: rickymouse

I think that was kind of the point.

Where does this happen?