Autopsy Finds Broken Bones in Jeffrey Epstein’s Neck, Deepening Questions Around His Death

I dont know how much you guys know about suicide, but the old school noose and trap door to break the neck is not relevant.

What happens is you tie the "noose" around your neck and tighten it until it cuts the blood off in you two arteries, you head only needs to be high enough off the ground to stop it taking the weight off your body/skull. You can do it in practically 1 inch.

Once the blood cuts off you start to pass out quite peacefully, your body goes limp, the "noose" keeps the pressure on the arteries in your neck by hanging you head one side and enough of your body the other.

As you are unconscious and limp, eventually your brain is stared of oxygen and stops working, first thing that happens is your heart and breathing stops and you die quite peacefully.

CPR on the other hand needs to be brutal, broken ribs, potentially broke bones in your neck? I havnt heard of it but if you fooked up watching him, panicked like mad, one has the head tipped back to administer oxygen and someone is pounding the chest in panic maybe??

originally posted by: RexKramerPRT
a reply to: carewemust

Glad to read he is #ting himself.

The Duke and Duchess of York were on the way to their favourite Spanish hideaway Sotogrande, after The Sun revealed they planned to stay on their own at a secret retreat. Royal insiders have revealed Andrew, 59, is starting to “s*** himself” over renewed attention after Epstein’s death in a New York jail while awaiting trial for sex ­trafficking.

Sources insist Sarah Ferguson intends to show support for her ex-husband publicly — and wants to secure their renewed romantic relationship.

The insider explained: “The Duchess insisted she go on holiday with the Duke to look after him and show the world she stands by him. “The Duke has been fairly relaxed up to now, he’s starting to s*** himself.

“It’s become the biggest story in the world and he’s at the heart of the coverage.”

No smoke without fire , no # without guilt .

If it's true , something has changed - perhaps because the story in UK is starting to leak out to (tabloid) front page hard copies from behind the false walling .

It has to , really , and we want to know why this has been whitewashed off in the UK since it flared up last month .

If it's true , something has changed - maybe because the death has caused such a spike in interest , including that of Barr and Trump and FBI and SDNY and every intel crew in the world - meaning that he won't get away . As in will not .

If it's true - and the biggest story in the world bit is too , (there is the ccp vs hong kong of course) ,

then we can give ourselves* a pat on the back for once , put our feet up ( a bit) and watch the show unfold . A lot of legwork was done over the years here and other places . The unpaid work was not wasted either .

A person opinion is that certain intelligence gatherers have gotten to the bottom of this (Epstein saga - because he played a central role) years ago . They then designed a solution to it , which has played out in a protracted way since about 2009
You want the answers ? It all goes back to even before Nazi Germany , through Rockefeller and friends eg trilateral and cfr from America , and it's about the covert institution of global governance and corporate power . Using the idea that pedos always do what they're told if you supply them .

The solution of course , is one , get Clinton off of America , check . Two , get Britain off of the EU , check . Three , give the Saxe-Cobergs and everyone German something to think about , check , and then Four , clean house .

You want to know who ? It's the five eyes , and they are not messing about . There's every reason for the wronguns to # themselves , going all the way to the top , as they've been chased all the way back . They're justifications? Easy really - who in their right mind is going to just allow a bunch of pedophilios to rule the world's western governments , or a bunch of enablers to run the state ?
Or just go and roll with a corporate plot designed by nazis (psuedo- socialist international fascists) to enslave the nations ?
No one sensible , not the (true) Americans , the Canadians , the Australians , the New Zealanders , the Israelis , or the Brits . Nor even the French . Comprendez vous ?

It might well be sinking in to Andrew and all the others , that now , from this point in time right here , is a big bunch of too late . As in far far far too late . He was warned with the others at the time , that some boundaries you cross in live , you will never ever come back from , that's just the way God made the world , sorry about that .

Just sort of a side note / theory...

The theories that this sick F# is still alive don't really make a lot of sense. About the only plausible reason to keep him alive would be so he could testify in the future, and this would mean there are some people in power who actually want "justice" for the people versus these politicians and elites. I sincerely question / doubt whether there are such people in existence. Not at that level anyway.

Even as a DJT supporter, it seems to me the easiest thing for 'them' to do would have been to silence Epstein forever. All things considered.

a reply to: Sublimecraft

It might be, but strangulation breaks bones in the kneck as well..

Don’t know which bones and if these bones are the same, but obviously if your air is restricted enough to kill you, there are little bones in the neck that would likely break.

However his neck got broken it gave Trump and Barr a reason to wade in with the fbi . It gave the fbi a good good reason to investigate itself too

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Oh no, he is dead for sure..


The one part that I haven’t seen anyone mention is his lifestyle changes...


Homie went from literally owning an island and army of servants , to isolation in a 8x8 concrete box...


And he was likely to remain in solitary pretty close to forever due to his notoriety..


Assuming you know the rest of your life is those same 4 concrete walls. How long till you end it???


I’m not saying this wasn’t dirty for sure, but it isn’t illogical..

a reply to: carewemust

Denial is not just a river in Egypt is it?

There was no wiretap. trump is a paranoid fool. Just one more of his many nurosises.
The man is mentally broken. And the inmates are surely running the nut house now.

And he knows nothing about any Clinton involvement because all he does is parrot what he reads on conspiracy theory websites like this one.
His depth of knowledge on anything is a fingernail deep. I've known people like him working in retail for so many years. They learn a little to sound informed but if you question them they cant go any deeper because they just don't bother learning it all.
He runs the country in the same, maybe we will maybe we won't, we'll see what happens, kind of way. Making him constantly reactive instead of proactive. A man with no plan running around trying to pick up the pieces while a hurricane whips around him. Thats what the past two and a half years have been. Now we can watch while the world's economy collapses because no one knows what the hell he is going to do or say at any given time.
But thats your hero and so you are welcome to him.

a reply to: visitedbythem
Question... Wouldn't the same video that showed the guards did not check on him also show if anyone other than the guards had entered his cell?

a reply to: KKLOCO

But they did in fact investigate the video tapes. That is how they know the guards did not check on him.
So basically nothing to see. If there was a murder someone would have had to go into his cell to do it.
That would be on the videotape.
We do not have to use imaginations.

a reply to: carewemust

The lead Prosecutor of Epstein suddenly resigned in late July.

Are you referring to the prosecutor in Florida? Or did one of the NY prosecutors resign? And I'm assuming not Comey's daughter...

I saw that the Florida prosecutor resigned. I hadn't heard about another one resigning.

originally posted by: Tranceopticalinclined
a reply to: mtnshredder

How many bones can you possibly break from a height of a doorknob?

I can't possibly see any other leverage you could get, so 3 and a half feet, honestly? Hanging I can buy, but broken bones?

This wasn't a damned gallows!

^^^ this here is exactly what I was thinking. I'd love to hear the explanation for this.

Epstein didn't try to kill himself the first time he was incarcerated. And nobody tried to kill him.

Plus, that body isn't Epstein.

The Warren Commission just keeps on truckin'.

originally posted by: KansasGirl

Again- I'm not saying he wasn't murdered. But he certainly could have gotten the injuries from his method of killing himself, if he did.

I agree. If he died the way we've been told, then it sounds like the pressure would be on the throat -- by the Adam's apple -- so it could have happened that way.

And these are anonymous sources... from WaPo. We've known stories to be planted with WaPo before... just saying.

The NY Post article also makes me wonder. The only named source is the cellmate's attorney:

Epstein told his lawyers that “the cop roughed him up, and that’s why they got him off suicide watch,” the source familiar with Epstein’s case said.

Tartaglione’s lawyer, Bruce Barket, disputed that account, saying, “I spoke to his lawyers and they never hinted at that to me, but he must have said something to get off suicide watch.”

“I do know that Nick was not brought up on any charges at all in the institution, so they cleared him,” Barket said.

I suppose Epstein's attorneys could have said that just to get him off suicide watch. But I have to give more credit to the lawyer willing to go on the record, than to anonymous sources claiming something about something.

The news is saying that these broken bones are not odd in an elderly suicide.
He was 67.

a reply to: carewemust

And why did he need to do that from someplace else?
He could cooperate just fine from his jail cell if that was the case.

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

If you were under suicide watch and wanted them to stop watching you would act like everything was hunky dory too.
That was all an act. He wanted to be off suicide watch. He wanted to be able to do this.
He did not think he was going to beat these charges. He knew he was facing the rest of his life behind bars. Probably raped by big Bubba on a daily basis.

a reply to: Bigburgh

But aren't the bed sheets made of PAPER?

One would think they would break before a bone.

a reply to: RexKramerPRT

He didnt. The royals do not resign...
They retire and that would be a big announcement. Which of course we have not had.
Its bullschitte.

a reply to: Tranceopticalinclined

You perfectly addressed the question on my mind. Could the broken bones have resulted from the "jumping" with the makeshift noose. I think for stone reason I imagined it was somehow tied up to the top bunk or top of the cell bars where he'd have jumped.

But if it was as you suggest, then there's no way it caused all those broken bones. Also, interesting to note is the hyoid bone. If it is possible but uncommon in hanging suicides, then it seems improbable that this hanging suicide as you describe it would cause a broken hyoid bone. It stands to reason that the common cause, strangulation, would be of far greater interest to investigators.

a reply to: carewemust

Went on vacation... I guess left the country is another way to say that.

Bloviated but correct..

I went to Maryland last weekend. Guess if my relatives had called my house they would have heard that I left town.