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originally posted by: Out6of9Balance
We must not be living the same earth.
All the flaws we see as humans in creation aren't meant to be.
What does it take to believe in a perfect god in this reality?
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Out6of9Balance
All the flaws we see as humans in creation aren't meant to be.
What does it take to believe in a perfect god in this reality?
The answer to both of these is to know and understand why God allowed humans and angels free will. It's our own free will that led to imperfection and corruption.
Unless you have omnipotent powers to decide what your choices are then you have no free-will.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Out6of9Balance
Where you see "can't", I see doesn't.
We are rebellious children who want to have our cake and eat it too. We want to walk our own way and do our own things, but at the same time, we want God to save us from all the consequences of that life.
It's like the idiots who want to live with all their libertine ways and vices and then want to government to pay for all the consequences when the free sex, drugs, etc., render them unfit to support themselves for various reasons - too many children, addictions, no education, etc.
So God gave us the freedom to walk our own way. If you fail to learn from that, it's not His fault. That's what is meant by spiritual education. That's what this life is. You learn that His way is the best way and walk with Him or you continue on your own way and life sucks.
originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: dfnj2015
Unless you have omnipotent powers to decide what your choices are then you have no free-will.
That's a cop out and deceitful statement.
Everyone will get to witness God some day, but they won't all be judged the same. There's no point in allowing free will if everyone is judged the same way and allowed to enter Heaven.
Just no, I don't need a personal closer connection to God, that wouldn't cure any of the many problems mankind is facing. He would make sure justice, the truth and good people would be winning, the opposite is true. Hate rules, exploitation and everything is a lie.
#NotMyGod