Gate Honor....???

"If the gate is open...then leave it open.

But, if the gate is closed, then close it behind you when you pass through!

Now, how hard is that????

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

it depends

i have encontered open gates on multiple occassions - and used my own innitative to close them [ because it was obvious tat liestock were loose in feild - and gate opened to another property or a road ]

just because its open now - doesnt mean that its supposed to be left open

a reply to: ignorant_ape

No, actually, it doesn't "depend"

We leave gates open or closed for a reason....we don't expect others to understand.

Just know the rules.

I'd have to sit and think about how many gates we have on our land. Probably (100) or more. 1,700 acres is a big place, and we have a lot of pastures.

We move cattle from one pasture to another based on grazing pressure. We leave gates open for stragglers (usually momma's with calves). Someone shutting the gate can keep a momma and her calf off water, and that could kill them. In the pasture, it's too big to see all that, but we know what's going on. We're out there riding the pastures every day...you aren't!

I agree with this notion Claydisk but what If I see the cows are just about to get out?
Shouldn't I close the gate to cover someone elses short sightedness?

ok - if you CBA to read what i actually wrote -

how do i know " you " or the relevant authorised person " deliberatly left the gate open -- for a legitimate reason

i dont close gates on a whim - but like i said - when its opening onto a public highway - or another property

there are a lot of idiots about [ UK ] who just leave gates swinging

PS - now you have replied - read your response again - it makes zero sense

When you’re anywhere with livestock you need to remember one thing. Ranchers aren’t stupid they’ve got everything set up the way they want .

Unless the cows are on the highway leave everything alone .

I’d like to add one thing from personal experience. If you’re frog gigging at night and you come to a locked fence. Make sure there’s not a bull on the other side before you climb over and walk to the pond .

Speaking of gates .

There’s no handbrake on the truck and he can’t turn off the engine .

I laugh every time I watch this .

a reply to: Fallingdown

actually - i have encountered a lot of stupid farmers .

one is now banned " for life " from any stock management [ due to a 2 year farce of neglect and dead bodies ]

further - as i has already asked - how do you " know " that a farmer has deliberatly left a gate open ?

ignoring FCDs insane response - closing a open gate - is more likley to have a positive outcome than negative

my responses are UK specific - and based on a lifetimes outdour persuits - and some casual farm labouring jobs

and idiots frequently leave gates open - that SHOUL;D remain shut - linking adjacent farms or accessing public highways

when my neighbour moves his cows up the road without our knowledge and shuts our gate if we go out and the gates shut we always close it common courtesy just in case he hasn't gone past unspoken country rules a reply to: ignorant_ape

My brother in law lives next door, adjacent to the summer pasture for our horses.

He likes to pet the horses (which is fine, they love attention...). The problem, is that he will turn off the electric fence, and forget to turn it back on. One of our rescues is a Polish Arabian; he is an escape artist, and he will test that fence every time the brother in law visits. You see where this is going.

Two or three times a week, he calls us, frantic... because the horses are out.

I get it.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Fallingdown

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ignoring FCDs insane response - ...

Just don't come around here, okay?

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Who closed a gate who wasn't supposed to?!!

a reply to: Fallingdown

I love your non-grumpiness this evening.

a reply to: ignorant_ape

There’s plenty a stupid to go around in all occupations .

I guess I was referencing the first person that closed the gate when it was open or open the gate when it was closed .


If someone’s on a farm and don’t know what they’re doing.

Either ask someone or don’t do anything .

I’d be willing to bet people trying to be helpful do more damage than people leaving someone else’s business alone.

The gate you close might cut the cattle off from water and depending on the size of the ranch it could be a while before it is discovered .


And the gate open might lead to the family garden .

a reply to: KansasGirl

It was just a gate someone closed, probably someone trying to be nice. I understand, but they don't sometimes.

We manage pastures, and not all cattle move the same way. It's not like a "cattle drive" where you have a bunch of cowboys moving cattle, swinging ropes and whooping it up. Sometimes you just open the gate and let them move to the pasture with the better grass...and it takes a while. Especially with the calves, because sometimes (many times) they're just conked out sleeping. Little calves nap a LOT! They'll be walking along and just drop when they're newborns. They just conk out. I mean literally, you can walk up to them and you'd think they were dead! Just fast asleep, and like a 70lb bowl of jello! Of course Momma isn't going to let you poke the "Jello" that much before she stomps on you...but they sure are cute when they do that.

I've seen them when they're just so out of it, napping, when you could roll them over and do whatever you wanted with them. Momma will be coming from across the field so you have to be quick, but she's "stuffed" her calf somewhere where she knows it's safe and hidden...so she can go eat. All of a sudden they "come to" and will jump up and run off to Momma, but before that they're just a puddle of baby cow. Nothing is connected, all their bones are just limber. They're the most amazing animals, so fragile, but yet so resilient. Just the simple fact they can stand up and walk within two hours of being born is amazing! Yet they do. All of them. It's what we look for, that, and nursing on Momma.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
"If the gate is open...then leave it open.

But, if the gate is closed, then close it behind you when you pass through!

Now, how hard is that????

I once had a really cool girlfriend who said, "I'll leave it up for you. And you put it down for me." I'm such an idiot. I should have married that woman!!!!!

a reply to: [post=24552753]Flyingclaydisk[/post

Same rule applies to overhead/service doors, and woodstoves.

I'm a little relieved that I'm not the only one who has to explain this repeatedly to others.
I thought I was losing my mind.

Oh, its good to be back. Took a hiatus from here for awhile. New name, same crabby old Wisconsinite.
Hope you still have your Acd, i still laugh thinking about your furry missle thread about em.

a reply to: Notoneofyou

Ah yes, woodstoves. I left that one out. Same principle.

Yep, we've still got Cisco (the ACD) and he's just as zippy as ever. Though he was on injured reserve last week, he keeps breaking his toenails with his wildman maneuvers.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Good to hear you still have him, sounds like he's still a missile, lol.

Woodstove are fresh on my mind even though it's hot outside, were 2 months from snow here. That and i was cutting firewood and setting up more racks yesterday.

Oct. 28 is my prediction for my area. I have a birch that gets one VERY yellow cluster of leaves in dead of summer.
After years of watching it and scratching my head, i realized when that happens snow is 3 months away.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
"If the gate is open...then leave it open.

But, if the gate is closed, then close it behind you when you pass through!

Now, how hard is that????

The problem is that people nowadays are too self important to think signs like that apply to them. I would like to start seeing associated costs passed on to the idle and feckless. So, for example, if leaving said gate open leads to livestock escaping and causing an accident, they should be hit with all associated costs for all parties involved......it would soon stop such selfishness.....