Flatland And The Interdimensionals

originally posted by: kwakakev
Leaving one of the variables in an equation as undefined it is a risky slope into madness, garbage in garbage out kind of thing. Quantum mechanics has declared thing like top, down, spin and bottom to help define some structure and give the researcher something to hang onto diving into the gray zone. There are as many dimensions as what we can put a name to, trying to make sense out of it all and define the relationships in a reproducible manner is the tricky part.

As for interacting with any interdimensional entities, if we can see that sphere it is a start.

And as TheMadTitan alluded to perhaps intuition and synchronicity are another example of interaction across the dimensions.

Yes, Carl Sagan's discussion and visual example on Cosmos:
youtu.be...

Any creature living in a higher dimension would be made up of all the lower dimensions. There would really be no reason to visit our dimension to understand us as they could observe everything we do without being seen. As we could with any creatures that lived in the 2nd dimension. Also, flying ships through our atmosphere doesn't make sense since they would be escaping back to their own dimension not traveling through ours. So seeing ships zip around and away in our skies making an escape makes no logical sense. They should appear and disappear out of nowhere on a plane we couldn't understand, similar to the flatland example.

I think interdimensional aliens is the weaker of the arguments for those that believe (of which I'm not) we're being visited.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Sounds like you have a problem with the Red Lectroids from Planet 10 by way of the 8th dimension:

a reply to: TheMadTitan

Slightly off.

Work on it.

a reply to: sputniksteve

Welcome to the crew, when the super position eclipses, you'll be welcomed officially. Just saying hi. People like you always have the most fun on RDay.

Observation is a 4th dimensional sense.

To perceive higher dimensions, requires higher dimensional senses. You all are talking about "seeing" the sphere.

Nope. You have to redefine the sensory detection of the sphere. It may need to be unconscious perception. You wouldn't know, necessarily, unless you solved for multiple layers simultaneously, rather than one outer dimension's upper relativity comparators.

But what do I know? I'm just a loser that works in a barbershop.

How is this for a multidimensional convergence of augmented reality?

originally posted by: Ectoplasm8
Yes, Carl Sagan's discussion and visual example on Cosmos:
youtu.be...

Any creature living in a higher dimension would be made up of all the lower dimensions. There would really be no reason to visit our dimension to understand us as they could observe everything we do without being seen. As we could with any creatures that lived in the 2nd dimension. Also, flying ships through our atmosphere doesn't make sense since they would be escaping back to their own dimension not traveling through ours. So seeing ships zip around and away in our skies making an escape makes no logical sense. They should appear and disappear out of nowhere on a plane we couldn't understand, similar to the flatland example.

I think interdimensional aliens is the weaker of the arguments for those that believe (of which I'm not) we're being visited.

While it's correct that 4 dimensional people would have no need to fly around in our skies at tremendous speeds when they could simply pop in and out of our 3 dimensional world any where they want...but perhaps speeding around in the 4th dimension isn't quite the same sensation as in the 3 dimensional world and they do it just because they like it. That would explain the somewhat playful nature of their actions as they zoom up and down and play follow the leader with our Navy pilots.

originally posted by: Archivalist
Observation is a 4th dimensional sense.

To perceive higher dimensions, requires higher dimensional senses. You all are talking about "seeing" the sphere.

Nope. You have to redefine the sensory detection of the sphere. It may need to be unconscious perception. You wouldn't know, necessarily, unless you solved for multiple layers simultaneously, rather than one outer dimension's upper relativity comparators.

But what do I know? I'm just a loser that works in a barbershop.

A true sign of intelligence is being able to explain the most complex of matters in easy to understand terms. Just sayin'.
And we do have the ability to perceive the higher dimensions but we perceive them as "through a glass darkly".

This is a really fun discussion, I look forward to checking in tomorrow. See y'all on the flipside.

originally posted by: sputniksteve
This is a really fun discussion, I look forward to checking in tomorrow. See y'all on the flipside.

It is fun and I look forward to your return. Goodnight.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Sounds like you have a problem with the Red Lectroids from Planet 10 by way of the 8th dimension:

Alas...it is so.

a reply to: Ectoplasm8

I agree with your statement,

Any creature living in a higher dimension would be made up of all the lower dimensions.

Dimensions are measurements in a co-ordinate system used to describe things that exist in our reality. There are no beings that exclusively occupy a lower or upper set of dimensions, everything has all the dimensions by existing.

There are no beings from an alternate reality either. By definition, an alternate reality is outside of our own and doesn't exist here and now.

It is more likely that the entities that are described as "extra dimensional" could be better explained as beings from an inter-phasic space that can occasionally be perceived when a rift appears.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
Higher dimensions, lower dimensions, why put human descriptors in the mix when it is uncalled for.
The entities are extra dimensional and from a different reality but your wrong. It does exist here and now. Or if you want you find that you can't prove that just as I can't prove the other.
The Skinwalker phenomena, with the arrival of animals not of our dimension, proves the "other" dimension has the same properties as ours but with different flora and fauna.
All of our "strange" inaccuracies (UFOS, ghosts, big foot, dogmen, Skinwalker, animal and human mutilations, human abductions etc) can all be explained with a parallel dimension.
Now the ONLY way to prove this is to acquire the method of how to access this other existence, as it's quite obvious that "they" already know how to manipulate it to Their advantage.

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck
Higher dimensions, lower dimensions, why put human descriptors in the mix when it is uncalled for.
The entities are extra dimensional and from a different reality but your wrong. It does exist here and now. Or if you want you find that you can't prove that just as I can't prove the other.
The Skinwalker phenomena, with the arrival of animals not of our dimension, proves the "other" dimension has the same properties as ours but with different flora and fauna.
All of our "strange" inaccuracies (UFOS, ghosts, big foot, dogmen, Skinwalker, animal and human mutilations, human abductions etc) can all be explained with a parallel dimension.
Now the ONLY way to prove this is to acquire the method of how to access this other existence, as it's quite obvious that "they" already know how to manipulate it to Their advantage.

Just as we would be aware of a 2 dimensional world (Flatland) existing amongst us, people in a 4 (or more) dimensional existence would be aware of us....we would all occupy the same space. They would experience the same 3 dimensions as us but with an added dimension that we can't comprehend.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: MissSmartypants
There has been a lot of conjecture lately about whether our "visitors" are extraterrestrials or interdimensional beings....
and I suspect that many people are using the term 'dimension' to mean parallel universe or alternate plane of existence.
So just what is a dimension? Well, here in our 3 dimensional existence our 3 dimensions that we can perceive are simply height, width, and depth (the temporal dimension of time does not apply to this discussion so I'm leaving it out). Now let's say that within our 3 dimensional existence there exists a 2 dimensional world where the occupants can only perceive 2 dimensions...width and depth. Let's call this place Flatland.
Now, if one of us 3 dimensional beings, you perhaps, were to poke your finger through Flatland... what would a Flatlander see? They would see a circle (the circumference of your finger) that they had to maneuver around. They would be unable to perceive or even conceive of your finger, much less the body it's attached to.
Now let's say that there is also a 4 dimensional existence that our 3 dimensional world exists within.... with the 4 dimensions being height, width, depth, and ? (some spirit type thing?) Either way that 4th dimension would be something we do not have the ability to conceive of. And if a 3 dimensional finger pokeing through Flatland looks like a circle then it stands to reason that a 4 dimensional finger poking into our existence would appear as a sphere.
So what if all these orbs that people (myself included) are seeing is just some naughty little 4 dimensional child poking his chubby little fingers into our 3 dimensional existence?
Now that's just an over simplified example and maybe it's not fingers they're poking at us but whatever it is we just aren't constructed to be able to perceive any 4 dimensional objects as they really are.
What say you, ATS?

I say how about the dimensions are water air space earth.....and as yet to be soon others......and when we lose sight of them these Craft and occupants SLIP BETWEEN these dimensions into what will come to be known as a Neutral Dimension Zone or NDZ.

That's not what dimensions are.
If you've ever bought a piece of lumber, you buy it according to its dimensions. You might want a board that is 1"x4"x6'...with 1 inch being its height...4 inches being its width....and 6 feet being its depth. Height, width, and depth are our 3 dimensions. Water cannot be a dimension.

a reply to: MissSmartypants

Great thread!

I do think some U.F.O.'s are inter-dimensional.

If you think about it, if you were to stick a basketball into Flatland, they would see a bunch of 2 dimensional objects pop into and out of existence. This is because they can't perceive the full 3D basketball. So they would experience a sighting of multiple 2D U.F.O.'s.

It's the same thing with us. If a 4D object, passed through our 3D universe, we would see multiple 3D objects pop into and out of existence. This is because we couldn't perceive the 4D object in it's entirety. Here's a couple of sightings that match this:









This is exactly what you would expect to see if a 4D object passed through our 3D universe.

Who knows, it can be some inter-dimensional Aliens on their way to Quadrant 7 and there like, let's make the 3D beings freak out and they pass through our space.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: Ectoplasm8

I agree with your statement,

Any creature living in a higher dimension would be made up of all the lower dimensions.

Dimensions are measurements in a co-ordinate system used to describe things that exist in our reality. There are no beings that exclusively occupy a lower or upper set of dimensions, everything has all the dimensions by existing.

There are no beings from an alternate reality either. By definition, an alternate reality is outside of our own and doesn't exist here and now.

It is more likely that the entities that are described as "extra dimensional" could be better explained as beings from an inter-phasic space that can occasionally be perceived when a rift appears.

Unfortunately this is a phenomenon that we don't as of yet have the proper terminology for. That can make discussing it a bit difficult.

originally posted by: neoholographic
a reply to: MissSmartypants

Great thread!

I do think some U.F.O.'s are inter-dimensional.

If you think about it, if you were to stick a basketball into Flatland, they would see a bunch of 2 dimensional objects pop into and out of existence. This is because they can't perceive the full 3D basketball. So they would experience a sighting of multiple 2D U.F.O.'s.

It's the same thing with us. If a 4D object, passed through our 3D universe, we would see multiple 3D objects pop into and out of existence. This is because we couldn't perceive the 4D object in it's entirety. Here's a couple of sightings that match this:

This is exactly what you would expect to see if a 4D object passed through our 3D universe.

Who knows, it can be some inter-dimensional Aliens on their way to Quadrant 7 and there like, let's make the 3D beings freak out and they pass through our space.

As I mentioned earlier, the tic tac UFO and others seem to be behaving in a somewhat playful manner as they zoom up and down for no apparent reason. It may turn out that the infamous "Whoopee Cushion" was an invention from the 4 dimensional realm.