What you missed while you were paying attention the mass shootings.

a reply to: cenpuppie

Don’t worry, the Farmers will get a bail out, and still have their subsidy checks coming, and their new F350 pick up trucks.

Might also have missed that the UN just published that NK stole 2 billion through hacking. Money they alledgedly have spent on advancing their nuclear tech.

originally posted by: 38181
a reply to: cenpuppie

Don’t worry, the Farmers will get a bail out, and still have their subsidy checks coming, and their new F350 pick up trucks.

Got to get those new air conditioned combines with surround sound and blue tooth

The far left would like our government to be more like China's. Lots of control, no more plastic straws, and soon they will have us all start eating with sticks.


I saw the stock market take a massive dive, but didn't see all the other nonsense going down. What a day

a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Well, it has definitely taken the spotlight off of the Jeffery Epstein investigation, and who all might be involved in Lolita-gate.

Isn't that curious!

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

China also just devalued it's currency which is sending world markets on a death spiral.

Which also leads credence to what Trump was saying, the Chinese seriously underestimate Trump.

While this isn't good for anybody, it only serves to prove that Trump was right about china all along.

You really don't think this move from China is in response to trump and his tariffs ?

I haven't seen any lack of coverage of what's going on in HK though.

The India thing is a development I didn't see, but that's been going on for decades.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Of course it is response and that's what OP was pointing out. They underestimated Trump's trade threats and now have to  devalue their currency to reduce their deficit because of trade imbalance. Classic Econ101.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: Identified
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

China also just devalued it's currency which is sending world markets on a death spiral.

Which also leads credence to what Trump was saying, the Chinese seriously underestimate Trump.

While this isn't good for anybody, it only serves to prove that Trump was right about china all along.

You really don't think this move from China is in response to trump and his tariffs ?

I don't think many people are surprised by this move from China. The timing is a bit of a surprise, but the move itself was never a secret. It was destined to happen sooner or later. So, no, this is not a direct response to Trump or his tariffs. Or, at the very most, it moved up the schedule for China. But you also have to remember, this is not a simple knee-jerk response. Things like this take time. The timing of the events would suggest that China had this planned before the latest round of tariff talk from Trump.

originally posted by: cenpuppie
ATS almost forgot the creme de la creme.

Currency War Begins: Chinese Yuan Crashes Past 7 To New Record Low; Global Markets Tumble After Beijing Suspends US Agri Imports

Why is that pause-worthy?

Update 1 - China is firing all the big guns tonight, because just an hour after Beijing effectively devalued the yuan, when it launched the latest currency war with the US, Bloomberg reported that the Chinese government has asked its state-owned enterprises "to suspend imports of U.S. agricultural products after President Donald Trump ratcheted up trade tensions with the Asian nation last week."

Combined with at least a 10% increase on consumer goods, specifically clothing, knick knacks, and electronics.

Yea, this weekend was poppin.

Just wait, Trump never loses.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

yeah i think it has more to do with china not being able to tolerate large dissent as if it gains momentum it will end up being what they have been really afraid of , a mass uprising of their people which if it happens Arab spring style would be a grave threat to the government of china

a reply to: LSU2018

China will NEVER suspend US agricultural imports!! They'd starve to death if they did!

This is one of the hardest things about the emport/export tariffs thing. China really wants to import raw production materials like iron ore, and many others. They want to export manufactured goods. The US has an abundance of agricultural exports. And, the crux of the tariff war is taxing China on imported manufactured goods and placing tariffs on exported manufacturing resources (without impacting the one thing China will ALWAYS import...agricultural goods).

China just simply doesn't have the capacity to produce anywhere near the agricultural products they need to support their population. Why do you think the US grows so much wheat and corn? There's no way we could consume it all! (unless every last citizen here ate 55 loaves of bread and had 25 boxes of cereal and pasta dinners every single day).

ETA - Many people base their understanding of import/export trade on what they see in the bias MSM. Probably less than 5% of that reporting is accurate. Most people are clueless to where agricultural products in this country go. I could even tell stories about our cattle, but that's another thread.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk
few sources on chinese food situation from varying sources and time periods
chinapower.csis.org...

China has historically striven for domestic food production self-sufficiency. In 1996, the government issued a White Paper on the Grain Issue that established a 95 percent self-sufficiency target for grains including rice, wheat, and corn. China’s domestic production has for the most part increased to meet the country’s growing demand. Over the past four decades, China’s grain consumption has more than doubled from 125 million tons in 1975 to 261 million tons in 2016. Considerable investments in agriculture have enabled China’s farmers to produce high volumes of staple crops, with China only importing a few million tons of rice and wheat per year. China often produces around the same amount of grain products as it consumes, resulting in a production-consumption ratio of roughly 1.0 since the mid-2000s. Similar production and consumption trends exist in India, although in recent years it has grown increasingly reliant on rice imports. Although a noteworthy achievement for both countries, a major grain exporter like the United States produces between 1.5 and 1.7 times more rice and wheat than it consumes. Despite Brazil’s growing domestic demand for wheat, it still manages to produce nearly twice the amount it consumes. This ratio is even more pronounced in Australia, which boasts the most arable land per capita in the world, and produces more than three times as much wheat as it consumes. With regard to meat products, China has witnessed an astronomical increase in consumption from a mere 7 million tons in 1975 to 75 million tons last year. China now consumes roughly 50 kilograms (kg) of meat per capita. This, combined with its massive population of 1.4 billion people, has made China the largest consumer of meat in the world. In terms of per capita meat consumption, China still falls behind countries like Australia and the United States (93 and 97 kg per capita, respectively), but well ahead of Japan’s 35.6 kg per capita. While domestic production has increased, meat imports have become an increasingly important component of China’s food security. China’s 3.6 million tons of meat imports in 2016 represents a several thousand percent increase from the mid-1970s.

that is only a small snippet in the grand scheme of that article mind you and only covers grain and meat

www.nationalgeographic.com... natgo article from 2018

www.motherjones.com... and mother jones from 2014 on how we were at least then their grocer and wine source

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

52% of our crops exported to China is Soybeans. They are trying or have another source of this. Have they found a solution so soon?

darn globalists

their 'ends'

justifies their means!

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

This is a great opportunity for Taiwan to declare independence. Then we can see if China is capable of fighting on multiple fronts.

You want China to throw nukes around? I certainly don't. Then again, it would be a pretty firework show if we're all going up...

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: AndyFromMichigan

Well, it has definitely taken the spotlight off of the Jeffery Epstein investigation, and who all might be involved in Lolita-gate.

Isn't that curious!

Good point.

You gotta hope it's a big old rug for all the stuff they're trying to brush under it...

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
I haven't seen any lack of coverage of what's going on in HK though.

The India thing is a development I didn't see, but that's been going on for decades.

It's funny the media make a point of how long the protests in Hong Kong have been going on but, at least in the UK, the protests in France have been going on much longer but have went largely ignored... strange.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: LSU2018

China will NEVER suspend US agricultural imports!! They'd starve to death if they did!

This is one of the hardest things about the emport/export tariffs thing. China really wants to import raw production materials like iron ore, and many others. They want to export manufactured goods. The US has an abundance of agricultural exports. And, the crux of the tariff war is taxing China on imported manufactured goods and placing tariffs on exported manufacturing resources (without impacting the one thing China will ALWAYS import...agricultural goods).

China just simply doesn't have the capacity to produce anywhere near the agricultural products they need to support their population. Why do you think the US grows so much wheat and corn? There's no way we could consume it all! (unless every last citizen here ate 55 loaves of bread and had 25 boxes of cereal and pasta dinners every single day).

ETA - Many people base their understanding of import/export trade on what they see in the bias MSM. Probably less than 5% of that reporting is accurate. Most people are clueless to where agricultural products in this country go. I could even tell stories about our cattle, but that's another thread.

Think about it a little more, if the people go through a famine the hierarchy doesn't. It would motivate the people against America due to the level of control already over the people of China, the social credit system really is Orwellian... no hyperbole.

a reply to: Mover3

Dont worry here in Québec we got news each week-end of ' les gilets jaunes ' i thinks it's more because it happen each week.

And the heat wave they got this summer take all the place in the news