"White Males and Mass Shootings" - Umm, but the Mississippi shooter was black

Double post!

a reply to: MrConspiracy

The problem is that for someone willing to murderously act out to make his point, banning guns is only one way to try to stop him from murdering. There are many easy ways to kill a lot of people, and banning guns doesn't stop them from being available.

Pretty much all the multiple casualty shootings carried out in the big cities are done with illegal firearms now. Clearly laws making those firearms illegal hasn't prevented anything.

And mass casualty events with any number of weapons are seen all over the world, including with firearms - Anders Breivik, the Bataclan, mass shooting events in Australia. Then we can talk about people running others over in mass casualty events carried out with vehicles, and that's before we get to mass stabbings. And that's leaving out explosive devices.

The majority of mass shootings are carried out by young white males. That is a fact.

a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
ohhh yeah remember there was that one black guy....or that one liberal....

Seriously? The homicide in violent crime stats show that black males are responsible for the vast majority of it, despite only being 6% of the country. White males are way under-represented in violent crime.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MrConspiracy

The problem is that for someone willing to murderously act out to make his point, banning guns is only one way to try to stop him from murdering. There are many easy ways to kill a lot of people, and banning guns doesn't stop them from being available.

Pretty much all the multiple casualty shootings carried out in the big cities are done with illegal firearms now. Clearly laws making those firearms illegal hasn't prevented anything.

And mass casualty events with any number of weapons are seen all over the world, including with firearms - Anders Breivik, the Bataclan, mass shooting events in Australia. Then we can talk about people running others over in mass casualty events carried out with vehicles, and that's before we get to mass stabbings. And that's leaving out explosive devices.

Although I agree with plenty of what you've just said - are you honestly saying making firearms illegal wouldn't make it more difficult for your average Joe "white terrorist" to go buy a gun and ultimately kill multiple people?

Excuses can be made as much as people want. Statistics speak for themselves.

When it comes to knife crime - can you stop someone buying a knife for their kitchen? You have to be reasonable. There's a difference in someone buying a knife to buying a gun or creating explosives.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Two different ball games. Inner cities might as well be the Wild West. We are talking about mass shootings meant to harm as many people as possible, no specific target. Not gang violence that is fueled by long term fueds.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Part of the problem is that people want to ignore this, they want to pretend its all about mental illness and ignore the other factors that are contributing to it while at the same time continuing to preach about "white genocide", the "Mexican invasion"...

Sad to say, you are precisely correct. The CNN narrative yesterday was to hammer down on the identification of the El Paso shooter as a "White Supremecist Terrorist". If you are a white person living in the US, that kind of talk would be quite alarming to you.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Of course they did, because then it wouldn't fit their narrative. If they were to actually look at all the inner city crimes then it wouldn't paint white males as bad as it does, it would just paint males as bad. Still not good, imo, but much closer to finding a solution than blaming someone's color.

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Two different ball games. Inner cities

might as well be the Wild West. We are talking about mass shootings meant to harm as many people as possible, no specific target. Not gang violence that is fueled by long term fueds.

Many of these shooting involve shooting random people.... ie a block party of a revival gang set. If you are a bystander and just happen to be standing next to pookie, it is your unlucky day.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Why focus unncessarily on the race(s) of the shooter?

Could be for the same reason media point a persons religion after doing something that kills or harms many.

Its to try and steer societies thinking.

Although

The media is spouting some nonsense about "(young) white males" and mass shootings

The link you provide asks a question about Why White males are carrying out more mass shootings.

Look at all mass shooting and is this question wrong?

Is there more mass shooting happening by males of other races when compared to whites?

What if next year, the majority of mass school shootings are carried out by young black males or young Chinese males?

haven't you just done what the article you are complaining about has done and asked a question?


This below is quoted from the article you use as an example

Of 114 mass shootings in the US between 1982 and May 2019, 110 were carried out by men. The final four are made up of three women, and one case of one man and a woman working together in the San Bernardino attack in December 2015. According to Statista analysis, in the same time-frame 64 of the perpetrators were white, while 19 were black, 10 Latino and eight Asian.

are these figures wrong?

If not then the question being asked is not really an attack on white males but a legit question based on the statistics is it not?

originally posted by: Necrobile

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Of course they did, because then it wouldn't fit their narrative. If they were to actually look at all the inner city crimes then it wouldn't paint white males as bad as it does, it would just paint males as bad. Still not good, imo, but much closer to finding a solution than blaming someone's color.

Narrative. Lol such a big word.
I’m a white male. I’m just not delusional. If you want to talk about gang violence then yes, most of those shootings are by black males. However that isn’t what we talking about is it? Mass shootings at public places with no specific target are mainly carried out by young white males. That is a fact.

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Two different ball games. Inner cities

might as well be the Wild West. We are talking about mass shootings meant to harm as many people as possible, no specific target. Not gang violence that is fueled by long term fueds.

Many of these shooting involve shooting random people.... ie a block party of a revival gang set. If you are a bystander and just happen to be standing next to pookie, it is your unlucky day.

No one is denying gang violence. There are distinctive differences though.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

If those stats are true then most races are represented relative to their population. If 64 out of 114 were white that makes sense given non Hispanic whites are about 60 percent of population.

Blacks only make up 13 percent of population.

In other words there is no crisis of white males or anyone else committing mass murders.


On the flip side, when you look at murder as a whole, blacks are over represented as 13% of population is responsible for more than 50% of murders. Really, it is worse as it is young black males, so more like 3 or 4% of population.


Thanks for playing.

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Two different ball games. Inner cities

might as well be the Wild West. We are talking about mass shootings meant to harm as many people as possible, no specific target. Not gang violence that is fueled by long term fueds.

Many of these shooting involve shooting random people.... ie a block party of a revival gang set. If you are a bystander and just happen to be standing next to pookie, it is your unlucky day.

No one is denying gang violence. There are distinctive differences though.

Innocent people are killed every day in gang related shootings in major cities across the US. Innocent people die in shootings and the MSM doesn't care about them.
The politicians don't care about them either.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: Secretrooster

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Secretrooster

Forgot about gang violence in the inner cities?

Two different ball games. Inner cities

might as well be the Wild West. We are talking about mass shootings meant to harm as many people as possible, no specific target. Not gang violence that is fueled by long term fueds.

Many of these shooting involve shooting random people.... ie a block party of a revival gang set. If you are a bystander and just happen to be standing next to pookie, it is your unlucky day.

No one is denying gang violence. There are distinctive differences though.

Innocent people are killed every day in gang related shootings in major cities across the US. Innocent people die in shootings and the MSM doesn't care about them.
The politicians don't care about them either.

I agree.

HATE is the cousin of MURDER

Keep up the hate on both sides and there will be murder on both sides.

Stop hating and murder will drop dramatically-

originally posted by: butcherguy
a reply to: AnakinWayneII

NBC actually used the term "white terrorism" on their evening news broadcast yesterday.

That is very stupid. That was a very stupid thing to say, if true.

A few mass shooters don't represent all white males across the United States or the world.


Same as gangbangers don't represent all black males across the United States or the world.

More black folks are murdered by black folk in the US than by any other folks of the same race. If you're black in the United States, you're more likely to be killed by a bunch of black dudes than "a white terrorist".

The media logic and phrases don't even make any sense anymore.

a reply to: Edumakated

Thanks for playing.

Playing what?


asking questions is a game to you?

If those stats are true then most races are represented relative to their population. If 64 out of 114 were white that makes sense given non Hispanic whites are about 60 percent of population. Blacks only make up 13 percent of population. In other words there is no crisis of white males or anyone else committing mass murders.

Is the article trying to make it like it is a crisis?




I see a question being asked a few stats given and then quotes and opinions and eventually what defines a mass shooting,

What you mention is also mentioned in the article how the US population is about 60% white.


If it is agenda driven its probably for the reason I mentioned at the start of my previous reply in the thread that you replied too.

Although I don't see any clear agenda against white males after reading it but maybe an attention grabbing headline.

a reply to: Secretrooster

Not really.

I think they're the product of the same forces at work in society.

I've said for a while that the white population is lagging behind the black one in terms of breakdown of family, morality, value of education, etc., but that we're catching up. Whites don't tend to replace their fathers with gangs like blacks do, but I think the violent acting out from young males is the same. It just seems to be manifesting in slightly different ways.